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Re: R the rear rancho XL9000's still the shock of choice? [Re: Dyno1] #1697813
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I will add that I had an issue with the front shocks I purchased from Chris.I changed the mounting style on my front shocks to eliminate the top stud mount. He took back the ones he sent,corrected the problem and quickly sent the pair of shocks back to me.
I had a great buying experience with Vi-king


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Re: R the rear rancho XL9000's still the shock of choice? [Re: hemi-itis] #1697814
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okay, now lets see if you have a good race experience with the Vi-kings.

Re: R the rear rancho XL9000's still the shock of choice? [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1697815
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I`ve been 1.36 @ 6.22 a few years ago and next thu. I plan on a 1.35 w/my 5-way Ranchos on 4-5 settings...........


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Re: R the rear rancho XL9000's still the shock of choice? [Re: Thumperdart] #1697816
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Not bashing Dom, but even at 1.36, a car that runs as quick as yours, at that weight is pretty soft in 60ft with mid .30s

Monte

Re: R the rear rancho XL9000's still the shock of choice? [Re: Monte_Smith] #1697817
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Not bashing Dom, but even at 1.36, a car that runs as quick as yours, at that weight is pretty soft in 60ft with mid .30s

Monte




I agree and will step up the shocks then tune every inch out of my stuff cos it`s way cheaper than a new motor and there`s still a 9.5? lurking in there I feel it. Question..........What plug for a BBF 470 on a 150 hit at 13.4.1........we have 8`s for n/a and they look ok but was thinking maybe a NGK #9 non projected tip or even a #10............ Thankxxx...........


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Re: R the rear rancho XL9000's still the shock of choice? [Re: Thumperdart] #1697818
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Dom, I run NGK 8`s on motor and have several 9 non projected in the trailer if I decide to turn on the plate.


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Re: R the rear rancho XL9000's still the shock of choice? [Re: Thumperdart] #1697819
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Not bashing Dom, but even at 1.36, a car that runs as quick as yours, at that weight is pretty soft in 60ft with mid .30s

Monte




I agree and will step up the shocks then tune every inch out of my stuff cos it`s way cheaper than a new motor and there`s still a 9.5? lurking in there I feel it. Question..........What plug for a BBF 470 on a 150 hit at 13.4.1........we have 8`s for n/a and they look ok but was thinking maybe a NGK #9 non projected tip or even a #10............ Thankxxx...........


What fuel?

Monte

Re: R the rear rancho XL9000's still the shock of choice? [Re: Dap] #1697820
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I've got a set I'd sell, pm me if your interested. Stepping up and going small tire racing so I went da.

Re: R the rear rancho XL9000's still the shock of choice? [Re: 1967dartgt] #1697821
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Afco done by the shock nerd.




I sent my rear 3870's to the shock nerd. I am undecided on the front. Hoping to get out if the temp comes up a bit in the next few weeks.


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Re: R the rear rancho XL9000's still the shock of choice? [Re: Dap] #1697822
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I used to do my own suspension valving on my motocrossers, back when the parts became available to hobbyists to tune the shim stacks, etc. I know my Rancho 5-ways are seriously UNsophisticated in design, although they certainly have their place as a bang-for-the-buck shock w/ CalTracs.

How are the Afcos better than the QA-1 / Vi-King style shock to justify their additional expense? Is it that their damping settings are more appropriate out of the box? Do they use a more sensitive or sophisticated damping mechanism? Is it an overall quality of materials improvement?

Also, who is "the shock nerd" I've seen reference above? Thanks. - Brad

Re: R the rear rancho XL9000's still the shock of choice? [Re: BradH] #1697823
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who is "the shock nerd" I've seen reference above?




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Re: R the rear rancho XL9000's still the shock of choice? [Re: Monte_Smith] #1697824
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Not bashing Dom, but even at 1.36, a car that runs as quick as yours, at that weight is pretty soft in 60ft with mid .30s

Monte




I agree and will step up the shocks then tune every inch out of my stuff cos it`s way cheaper than a new motor and there`s still a 9.5? lurking in there I feel it. Question..........What plug for a BBF 470 on a 150 hit at 13.4.1........we have 8`s for n/a and they look ok but was thinking maybe a NGK #9 non projected tip or even a #10............ Thankxxx...........


What fuel?

Monte




He`s trying the 101 unleaded from the 110 leaded both VP. The 101`s good to 14.1 and 110 13.1 w/alum. heads but was trying to convince him to run a small cell up ft. w/good fuel.......... Thankxxx.............


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Re: R the rear rancho XL9000's still the shock of choice? [Re: Thumperdart] #1697825
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Better made components and VALVING is what makes a decent shock into a GOOD shock. You can drill a hole in a washer and call that a valve, but there are MUCH better ways to do it. Many ways to make shocks do different things. Some, like Santhuffs, react to time over distance. Meaning the quicker and harder you "hit" the shock, the quicker and harder it reacts, but others are NOT like that.

I said it earlier, but it bears repeating. With a lower or midline priced shock, you get midline or lower line styled valving and that's just the way it is. If you NEED a better shock, expect to pay for it.

Monte

Re: R the rear rancho XL9000's still the shock of choice? [Re: Monte_Smith] #1697826
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I agree with Monte on everything he says here. I see all the time that guys say "I had this best 60 ft". My question is how many times did it run that 60 ft? If you have good components the answer to that question would be several runs in a row. Its about CONSISTENTLY planting the horsepower.
Double adjustable rear shocks are a must in my opinion even on a 11 second leaf spring car. Moving to the front, alot of guys think that a super loose CE type shock is the way to go to get big wheelies thus dead hooking. But heres the kicker... What happens when the front tires come back down and the cheap shock cant dampen the load? It lands all the weight down with enough force that it spins the rear tires. In my case they worked pretty well and then I got into good weather and couldnt control the front end lift. Bought a set of AFCO's and never had that issue again.
When you get into cars like Monte deals with AKA seriously fast, you need to be able to slowly let the front end rise versus hitting it all at once. Its all about the valving


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