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Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: KOS] #1692150
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To me its more impressive when a sb runs hard BBs are expected to.ive had people come up to me at the track after a pass to check out the car and are shocked when they realize its a sb NA....they automatically assume its a BB because of how fast it is....we even had to set the track announcer straight.LOL


so what times does it run at what weight

Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: all spooled up] #1692151
11/02/14 02:53 PM
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My stock stroke, cast crank, .030 over 360 has been 10.29 this year. Normally in mid 10.30s. My car is 2960 w/me in it. Not bad for a SS spring in stock location w/9" slick car.

That's why I run a SB.

Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: W5DART66] #1692152
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Small block NA



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Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: mafo] #1692153
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Here is something from this website, with real life facts. Look at the fastest car list. The six second zone is 2 Hemis a small block and a big block. The seven second zone is dominated by big blocks and Hemis, with one small block. The eight second zone is where it starts to get more interesting. The first two entries @ 8.02 one twin turbo big block and a nitrous small block, then it seems to go back and forth between big and small blocks. Depending on power adders, cubic dollars, and vehicles. Maybe a matter of personal preference.

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Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: TurboMike] #1692154
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True...but I know 4 sb's that would be deep 7's but they run 1/8. .
Goss's challenger went 204mph in the 1/4 is just one of the 4.

Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: moparguy7074] #1692155
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My stock stroke, cast crank, .030 over 360 has been 10.29 this year. Normally in mid 10.30s. My car is 2960 w/me in it. Not bad for a SS spring in stock location w/9" slick car.

That's why I run a SB.



very impressive times...stock elim.car?


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Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: all spooled up] #1692156
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To me its more impressive when a sb runs hard BBs are expected to.ive had people come up to me at the track after a pass to check out the car and are shocked when they realize its a sb NA....they automatically assume its a BB because of how fast it is....we even had to set the track announcer straight.LOL


so what times does it run at what weight




its went best of [Email]9.64@138.5mph[/Email] @ 3350lbs.stock suspension dart CE 3way shocks all way around SS springs 15x7"wheel with 275/60DR not the PRO.factory 6pak hood, no vac pump or electric WP factory motor mounts nothing exotic under the hood looks like a 12sec car.

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Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: Stroker Scamp] #1692157
11/02/14 11:28 PM
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My stock stroke, cast crank, .030 over 360 has been 10.29 this year. Normally in mid 10.30s. My car is 2960 w/me in it. Not bad for a SS spring in stock location w/9" slick car.

That's why I run a SB.



very impressive times...stock elim.car?




I wish! I don't have enough money to do that! Just weekly bracket race at one of the toughest tracks around, Norwalk Ohio!

Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: Monte_Smith] #1692158
11/03/14 12:14 AM
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Monte take a breath and answer the question...how many bb MOPARS ?
I don't need to know about other makes that do it,it's my boys motors that are the fastest


Well I guess I don't understand the question..........you made the comment and then mentioned Ron Rhodes. He drives a SB Chevy, so I assumed you meant in general.

But if you are asking about BB Mopars in X275, I think they can run that number with the right serious effort combo. At present, I can only think of ONE guy who is even running that combo in X period and that would be Mr Robbins. And this is in no way shape or form a slight against him, plus I am sure he will agree, that his current combo is not a balls to the wall, all out, X275 combo. Spoke with him at Holly Springs and he admitted as much. His combo needs a little work, likely doesn't have the right cam and head, nor has he even approached the jet size the "hitters" in the class run. He is more focused on a "jet limited" 275 class in Texas, where he runs near the front of the pack.............So, knowing what the "go to" head in the X275 class will flow and what a properly done PSO head can flow, I would say a BBM can do it, just that nobody has yet. I would like to try it myself, I just don't have an X275 ready chassis, nor do I have the FIRST part for that type motor...........Now if somebody wants to volunteer up a car and motor, we will see what we can do.........LOL!!!

Monte




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Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: SpareParts] #1692159
11/03/14 01:21 AM
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I hope and love to see a mopar contender bb or sb in Ultra or x275.
4.40s and 50's is the norm these days especially after the Bruders did what they've done the last 2 events.
Im personally gonna run ultra because of weight and minimal changes I have to make.
I wanted to really check the chassis this year w the sb indy motor.I gotta tell ya with a 26 jet and 13 degrees of timing out way safe....that little sucker moves .
I was hopeing to atleast get up to a 36jet this yr,but Winter is here.
Anyways we will see next yr if a 15* sb can run hard enough.
440" w9 tons of head work from Brett Miller and chamber work for lots of nos use from a top notch cylinder head shop.
4/7 cam swap 60 mm
With all the bells and whistles which should yield 1300hp+.
9"
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Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: fishy340] #1692160
11/03/14 01:27 AM
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I am really looking forward to seeing what you can do with the new bullet. I envy it very much!! Lol it should be a killer.

Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: SpareParts] #1692161
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I am a street car kind of guy and because of that I really don't expect to make over 400-500hp. If you can make that easily with a lighter engine it makes handling launching and sometimes mileage better. I will admit if I had a b body or other heavy car I would go to a big block.

Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: littleVAL] #1692162
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Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: J_BODY] #1692163
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I just have too many small block parts to warrant the switch to a big block...besides, my goal was to build a mid 10 second street car that was reliable enough that I could drive it all over town AND to and from the race track...mission accomplished.


67 Barracuda street car, 408, e85, 1.38 60', 6.44 @105.9 in the 1/8 mile, 10.19 @130.5 in the 1/4...so far....
Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: FlyFish] #1692164
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until i have my rb/BB dart put together ,i race my sb dakota
i like to race i don't mind a sb its still a mopar

Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: Tobbe] #1692165
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after spending most of my summer doing a RB, A body car for a guy, I can say most assuredly that I am not in any rush to do this for myself,,my body just finally healed up from the last one.


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Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: dartman366] #1692166
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Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: StrkrDart69] #1692167
11/04/14 10:56 PM
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I am still trying to figure out why guys race big blocks.



I raced both. I like the feeling of the front end dropping at 128mph cause it is still pulling with a big block. The small block was a great bracket car. After you pulled high gear I had all the time in the world to look for that big block chasing me.

Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: cudasteve68] #1692168
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I am still trying to figure out why guys race big blocks.



I raced both. I like the feeling of the front end dropping at 128mph cause it is still pulling with a big block. The small block was a great bracket car. After you pulled high gear I had all the time in the world to look for that big block chasing me.




Yes so do I, I like the dropping feeling at the eighth at 129 with my small block.


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Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: 1967dartgt] #1692169
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