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Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads. #1681248
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Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads.

It was posted, what six weeks or so ago that it was a week away?

What gives?

Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads. [Re: Porter67] #1681249
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I think everything is ready, but they're waiting for nuclear fusion to be the power source.

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Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads. [Re: dogdays] #1681250
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I only asked as since the season is about over, if there is a bigger better deal option im sure im not the only one who would like to know.

Vs going to an indy- head if theres an option to be let loose soon some head decisions can wait a bit, at least for me.

Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads. [Re: Porter67] #1681251
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Sorry to thread jack but did the edelbrok victor heads ever come out?? I was waiting on them two years ago, got tired and went cnc 360-1 Indy heads.


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Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads. [Re: slammedR/T] #1681252
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I spoke to a guy at the Edelbrock trailer at the Mopar Nats. He said that they were ready to release the head in the spring this year but when they flowed the head with the Max port configuration, they did not like the stall numbers they got on their flow bench. He said the whole Mopar Victor small block project was send back to R&D.

Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads. [Re: slammedR/T] #1681253
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They're on backorder until there's enough money to make a run of 50,000 sets?

I musta missed this. Was it another cnc port of a china head like the airwolfs?

Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads. [Re: radar] #1681254
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Oh ok the simultaneous post above answered my question

Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads. [Re: radar] #1681255
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I don't understand why it takes them 30 years to make an aluminum W2? Is that too much to ask for? Tweek the ports and chamber a little on a wet flow bench, give it w2 and std ex bolt patterns price them a little more than the RPM and watch em fly out the door. No need to start from scratch with raised ports shallower valve angles... they are gonna have to ask so much that they won't sell any (enough to justify there existence anyhow). All that means new pistons, new intakes, special gaskets, probably specific rockers... too much for the common guy to deal with.


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Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads. [Re: HotRodDave] #1681256
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I offered the engineer working on them help and I was told they had it handled....they didn't need any outside help!

There are a few guys who know about the help Edelbrock was receiving and that's why they are back at engineering...

Guess they got it handled!


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Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads. [Re: Brian Hafliger] #1681257
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There's been several recent "single point of failure" problems with Mopar stuff. Dr J's small block heads went away with his divorce, Koleno blocks went into limbo when Marty Koleno passed away. Don't know what the issue at E-brock is. S/F....Ken M

Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads. [Re: EchoSixMike] #1681258
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I'd guess with small numbers likely to actually sell(yep,low number folks) and too many that will complain they ain't cheap enough there is little reason to bust ass and release another SB mopar head.

Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads. [Re: Brian Hafliger] #1681259
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I offered the engineer working on them help and I was told they had it handled....they didn't need any outside help!

There are a few guys who know about the help Edelbrock was receiving and that's why they are back at engineering...

Guess they got it handled!




Sorry, I have to ask this. "What outside help " for Edelbrock.

Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads. [Re: Rob C] #1681260
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what exactly are you guys looking for? there are several heads out that will get the job done.

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what exactly are you guys looking for? there are several heads out that will get the job done.




A W5 replacement head or better but workable with the stock block without the huge expense (or weight) of W2's.

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what exactly are you guys looking for? there are several heads out that will get the job done.




A W5 replacement head or better but workable with the stock block without the huge expense (or weight) of W2's.


indy is better than a W5, so you are looking for $1000 set of heads capable of W5 ?

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I actually didn't specify which/what head. But yes the Victor would be nice and and worth the money if they are what they claimed.

There was recent posting of a small block head someone was working on that was going to be ready to ship and something about being a distributer of the head.

I try to order pistons by the end of oct. due to everyone else doing things over the winter.

Looks like another year of edelbrock rpm heads, but at least ya know what your working with and there limits and its a easy 10 second build head.

But it would be nice to have a head that could do more without a lot of high cost rocker gear.

Someone kick me as I must be dreaming.

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I actually didn't specify which/what head. But yes the Victor would be nice and and worth the money if they are what they claimed.

There was recent posting of a small block head someone was working on that was going to be ready to ship and something about being a distributer of the head.

I try to order pistons by the end of oct. due to everyone else doing things over the winter.

Looks like another year of edelbrock rpm heads, but at least ya know what your working with and there limits and its a easy 10 second build head.

But it would be nice to have a head that could do more without a lot of high cost rocker gear.

Someone kick me as I must be dreaming.


indybrock makes good power and reasonable

Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads. [Re: HotRodDave] #1681265
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I don't understand why it takes them 30 years to make an aluminum W2? Is that too much to ask for?...




Couldn't have said it any better.

Make an updated version of the W2s, something the weekend amateur can get into. Maybe that is the W5??? (the MP books surely claim so, yet I rarely ever hear anyone talk about them)

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The indy 360-2 is an alu version of the w2.
Or atleast close to it...
For what a stock block can handle id say that there are heads avaliable.

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indy is better than a W5, so you are looking for $1000 set of heads capable of W5 ?




W5 was an awesome head for stressing a stock block build. Erson rockers for them were very nice also and I didn't think the $700 I paid for them was a bad deal at all. I'd still be running W5s if I didn't learn the hard way that they were casted from junk. We also considered the Indy route, but I've also heard some stories of casting issues with them also. Seems to me right now Ebrock heads are a good comprimise since you can no longer get R blocks. What's the sense in anybody making a good head if you don't have a block to bolt them to?

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