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Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads.
[Re: J_BODY]
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10/04/14 12:44 PM
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indy is better than a W5, so you are looking for $1000 set of heads capable of W5 ?
W5 was an awesome head for stressing a stock block build. Erson rockers for them were very nice also and I didn't think the $700 I paid for them was a bad deal at all. I'd still be running W5s if I didn't learn the hard way that they were casted from junk. We also considered the Indy route, but I've also heard some stories of casting issues with them also. Seems to me right now Ebrock heads are a good comprimise since you can no longer get R blocks. What's the sense in anybody making a good head if you don't have a block to bolt them to?
you can find R blocks if you look, people just want them for nothing.
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Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads.
[Re: Rob C]
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10/05/14 12:43 PM
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The W5 had problems with the early castings which gave them a bad rep they never shook off.
My #1 and #2 set were both the "blue plug" castings that were supposedly "the" ones to have. After having them ported, and then leak on the #3 short turn, returned to the guy who ported them where he "epoxied" them...only to have it fall out, we sent them to a very highly recommended guy in Iowa who repairs aluminum heads. Casting was so poor he couldn't weld on them. End of story... sold out and moved on. If you need an intake for your W5's I have two left I'll sell for cheap.
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Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads.
[Re: mshred]
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10/06/14 04:59 PM
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Ya know, for a long time ive put off even thinking of the newer hemi but looking back, way back what were some of the street rod guys doing when there inline 6 or there flathead was not getting it done. Nailhead V8 That about sums it up. Quote:
Threads like these make me feel warm and fuzzy when thinking G3 Hemis lol
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Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads.
[Re: Porter67]
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10/06/14 06:06 PM
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Ya know, for a long time ive put off even thinking of the newer hemi but looking back, way back what were some of the street rod guys doing when there inline 6 or there flathead was not getting it done.
Nailhead V8 That about sums it up.
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Threads like these make me feel warm and fuzzy when thinking G3 Hemis lol
I think my next engine is going to be diesel fueled.
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Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads.
[Re: Guitar Jones]
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10/06/14 06:32 PM
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Ya know, for a long time ive put off even thinking of the newer hemi but looking back, way back what were some of the street rod guys doing when there inline 6 or there flathead was not getting it done.
Nailhead V8 That about sums it up.
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Threads like these make me feel warm and fuzzy when thinking G3 Hemis lol
I think my next engine is going to be diesel fueled.
Think LPG.
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Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads.
[Re: AlexP]
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10/06/14 07:11 PM
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It amazes me that most people havent seen the light. They'll spend $6k on worked up ultra exotic sb heads but will scoff at an OOTB 3g hemi head that is over 300cfm stock.
But adjustable rocker gear for those heads approaches 2000 dollars( Harland sharp) intakes are expensive, and you can't run a solid roller either. Good headers aren't cheap either, and to install one In a typical Abody isn't exactly a bolt in deal either.
Some positives no doubt, but plenty of negatives as well.
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Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads.
[Re: B3422W5]
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10/06/14 07:19 PM
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It amazes me that most people havent seen the light. They'll spend $6k on worked up ultra exotic sb heads but will scoff at an OOTB 3g hemi head that is over 300cfm stock.
But adjustable rocker gear for those heads approaches 2000 dollars( Harland sharp) intakes are expensive, and you can't run a solid roller either. Good headers aren't cheap either, and to install one In a typical Abody isn't exactly a bolt in deal either.
Some positives no doubt, but plenty of negatives as well.
YOU my friend need to make the change.  With your knowledge you would not be disappointed.
Just look at the factory stock and Dave Barton.
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Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads.
[Re: MattW]
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10/06/14 10:57 PM
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Gen3 will be a good route someday. If you get warm and fuzzy over these hemis and discounting LA designs you have not payed attention. I have witnessed some very fast stock head combo LA engines.
Funny how many aluminum magnum heads have been produced yet people bought the iron rt heads.
You guys talk yourselves out of all the smart solutions. Nothing gets made for lack of sales. Mopar could make a head that flowed 450 corrected geometry and strengthened the block to handle 2500 HP price them at $2000 complete and you guys would find some excuse to not buy them.
Sorry for the rant. This is why I went R5P7 it's cheaper and makes way more power. And the parts are everywhere. Don't have to wonder if they will get made or not.
Carry on with the excuses.
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Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads.
[Re: Leon441]
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10/06/14 11:04 PM
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Gen3 will be a good route someday. If you get warm and fuzzy over these hemis and discounting LA designs you have not payed attention. I have witnessed some very fast stock head combo LA engines.
Funny how many aluminum magnum heads have been produced yet people bought the iron rt heads.
You guys talk yourselves out of all the smart solutions. Nothing gets made for lack of sales. Mopar could make a head that flowed 450 corrected geometry and strengthened the block to handle 2500 HP price them at $2000 complete and you guys would find some excuse to not buy them.
Sorry for the rant. This is why I went R5P7 it's cheaper and makes way more power. And the parts are everywhere. Don't have to wonder if they will get made or not.
Carry on with the excuses.
Who said ANYTHING about discounting LA designs Leon??? If your referring to my post, which you are in your first line, you got it ALL wrong.
Waiting for more LA head designs to come out that aren't all copies of the Eddy performer is useless...because that is all there has been in the past few years, unless someone can prove otherwise???
The new gen hemi on the other hand, well factory castings that flow what exotic SB race heads cost...what is not to get exited about?
By the way, I am still racing an LA, and more then likely will be for a long time...Not sure what "excuses" are being made in here, but you yourself now race an R5P7 yet condemn me for mentioning Gen3 hemi heads...go figure! If there are still lots of "smart" solutions with the LA platform, why are you racing something otherwise??  
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Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads.
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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10/06/14 11:35 PM
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Best part about the new hemi's to me is they can be made fast using a lot of factory parts. The heads really move some air, are really affordable!
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Re: Where is the big reveal on the killer sb heads.
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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10/07/14 03:31 AM
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I honestly don't run into that many fast new style Hemi's in my travels but would like to see more. I would also like to see a break-down of the costs of building one too. I could care less about Dyno queens or super stock type builds because I know those costs are way above what most are willing to spend.
Look harder! I'm not even into them since I have cool LA stuff but I know of a full weight pump gas street driven charger that runs 8's with the production trans which I imagine eats a lot of power. I can also think of a very low 9 magnum that's also a pump gas car. Keep in mind these are in cars that are at or above 4000lbs....
The gen 3 works. I like the R5 P7 also but if you can only afford a 358" (like I could have bought) it seems like getting the right converter is a nightmare and they want a huge converter, that takes the fun out of driving my car to me. Big W heads it is
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