Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: 62maxwgn]
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01/19/15 03:17 AM
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Ed,you can go one step farther,if a repop tag is considered a fake/fraud,then I guess that could call all repop parts fake/fraud.
there are a big difference between them one you have to quess as to what it looks like the other there is no guessing required!
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: flypaper]
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01/19/15 06:19 AM
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Ed,you can go one step farther,if a repop tag is considered a fake/fraud,then I guess that could call all repop parts fake/fraud.
there are a big difference between them one you have to quess as to what it looks like the other there is no guessing required!
I think that you are exactly right. I had some fake cuda rubber bumpers made by Gene Gregory that I sold off after I sold the Cuda, so I don't have any more fake mopar parts. Thank goodness for that. Anyone who puts them on a car is a fraud and is controlled by greed if they use repro parts instead of proper and correct originals, unless ofcourse, they declare it upon listing the car for sale. Then they are just guilty of using cheaper parts so they can save money. Fraud Alert!
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: 69CoronetRT]
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01/20/15 05:33 AM
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Why would you devalue a car because it is missing a a piece of metal that provides limited information at best?
Because an original fender tag provides, at least, minimal documentation and is one undisputable piece of evidence as to how the car was originally built and equipped. Remove it and everything that is listed on the tag comes into question. Color. Transmission. Options.
Not every car had or has a correct broadcast sheet or other documentation. EVERY car had a fender tag.
Is it the sole piece of documentation one should consider? No. Is it a very important piece? Yes.
By that same thinking, EVERY car had a window sticker. That was something that was federally mandated yet a lot of people don't get them.
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: 68gtx]
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01/20/15 12:30 PM
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I think Larry hit the nail on the head. I've mentioned this before, but a few yrs ago when Mopar prices were crazy high, my bro bought a gorgeous, restored blue 68 GTX from a "high end", dealer who sells on ebay. Paid over $40K for the GTX & I remember the tag catching my eye because the info was so "perfectly" stamped. Some drunk vendor at MATS came up & said it was a fake & was orig gold, but I dissed the guy as crazy. But a few yrs later & 6 months after my bro sold the "GTX" to pay for his daughters college tuition, he got a call from both the new owner & law enforcement detectives asking if he knew the car was a fake... and "dealer" is still selling on ebag so guess he didn't know before he restored the car that it was a fake??? Me, I want a tag on the fender because I think my car looks a bit "naked" without it. Recently got the IMB card & doocumented history on my 64 Belvedere back from Chrysler Historical & was overjoyed to discover its a Lynch Road, 426 Commando 4 spd car & only option was a heater. So I contacted a VERY reputable sponsor of this site & had a couple of tags made. One that from is research looks like what it MAY have come with & another one that's actually going on the fender. If I ever sell the car (hope I never have to), will I disclose the tag's a repop? Absolutely.
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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01/21/15 01:23 AM
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Cool tag Buzz (and hilarious that they miss-spelled Belvedere)
Ya know, owning a print shop, I'm constantly proofing EVERYTHING & can't believe I missed this one!... Sure appreciate you guys catching it & also wanted to change the wording a bit anyway, so now this is the reason to do it.. I sure wouldn't wanted to have led some poor Mopar fan to think it was a REAL, Real Deal!... LOL, think its time for another beer...
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: Rhinodart]
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01/21/15 01:25 AM
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Obviously a fake because of the word BELVEDRE instead of BELVEDERE!
Must've had some foreigner working the assembly line that day...LOL, Lynch road guys can't even spell currectly!
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: RestoRick]
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01/23/15 09:37 AM
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Safest method would be to soak it in Evaporust. I've repaired holes in tags.
Followed your evaporust recommendation. Would be great to kow how you repaired the holes.
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: mopar346]
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03/02/15 11:40 PM
03/02/15 11:40 PM
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Here is a thought:
Do a reproduction of your original tag, do it in aluminum (so its an obvious fake as the original is steel), and put next to it, another optional tag that says (original tag safe at home). I am not sure, but I bet datatags could do that? If you don't have an original tag when you go to sell the car (like some asking how to solve their problem on this thread), the new owner finds out you don't have it, no big deal. But you can enjoy car shows, and don't have to listen to the morons saying 'hey wheres the tags?' this would shut them up.
I have 2 friends with some pretty cool cars and real buildsheets, yet get tired of the critism of no tags, so this what I suggested for them to look into.
If someone is out there dumb enough to buy a car with an ALUMINUM tag, then they are idiots not doing their home work. For me, I could provide my steel original tags if one wanted, and I don't have to worry about some punk taking my tags (which if they got stolen I would be sick). There was a red gtx some kids stole the tags off across the road, while it was sitting outside for a night or 2. Now I read on this thread, someone lost their tags due to theft at a car show. Listen, Chevy guys don't bolt their protecto plates to their inner fender (no way in hell), they put them away in a safedeposit box, with their paper work, while mopar guys leave theirs out there exposed. A protecto plate is like the holy grail of documentation on a chevy, and its no different than a fender tag on a mopar, yet we treat them differently. We should wake up a bit.
The more I think about this, the more I think I want to do it. Going to hide the original tags away, while I enjoy my cars, and can walk away without worrying with the hood up at a show, or parked outside over night sometimes, etc.
Last edited by 5571; 03/02/15 11:59 PM.
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: 5571]
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03/03/15 01:06 AM
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A protecto plate is like the holy grail of documentation on a chevy, and its no different than a fender tag on a mopar, yet we treat them differently. We should wake up a bit. The more I think about this, the more I think I want to do it. Going to hide the original tags away, while I enjoy my cars, and can walk away without worrying with the hood up at a show, or parked outside over night sometimes, etc.
I agree 100%. Particularly if it is a rare car, the original FT is far too important and valuable to just leave sitting on a car, secured by only 2 Phillips-head screws. The FT is one of the few parts of a car that is absolutely unique to that particular car, and is therefore irreplaceable. So, for every single one of my rare cars I made a fake/repop tag. The repop goes on the car, and the original is tucked away in a safe, along with all the other paperwork/sheet/etc. Very few bad people would consider stealing one off a car, but I just couldn't stomach the thought of coming back to my car at a car show and find my original FT was missing.
- Wade
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