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Re: Repop fender tag [Re: booger] #1679309 10/21/14 01:59 AM 10/21/14 01:59 AM
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E-Ticket master E Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,525 Louisville, KY	Fender Tags, Fender Tags, Fender Tags......... I have a pretty valuable car that has a real nice broadcast sheet but I too am missing my OEM fender tag. I have pondered the idea of having a duplicate made based off the information from the broadcast sheet and fasten it to the car but still have not decided whether I want to go through that yet?? Problem is my temper....if I do have one made and a member of the fender tag police comes up to me and gives me any crap about it, I'm liable to become insensitive toward that person and tell him or her to walk the F*** away from my car now and don't come back?? I don't give a damn whether my fender tag is an oem tag or an aftermarket made tag....as long as the information on that tag correctly matches the broadcast sheet. Sure it would be nice to have the original tag the car was built with but sometimes that is a needle in a hay stack so my thought is.....so the hell what....... "Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son......" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK-Dqj4fHmM

Re: Repop fender tag [Re: E-Ticket] #1679310 10/21/14 05:18 PM 10/21/14 05:18 PM
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Re: Repop fender tag [Re: 68gtx] #1679311 10/21/14 05:27 PM 10/21/14 05:27 PM
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serano enthusiast S Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 206 foristell mo	You will get no argument from me!!I would much rather see a repop tag as to see all the repop panels installed around a tag then represented as"original"!!

Re: Repop fender tag [Re: E-Ticket] #1679312 10/23/14 12:17 AM 10/23/14 12:17 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,896 New England Q5_Ed top fuel
Q5_Ed top fuel Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,896 New England	Quote: Fender Tags, Fender Tags, Fender Tags......... I have a pretty valuable car that has a real nice broadcast sheet but I too am missing my OEM fender tag. I have pondered the idea of having a duplicate made based off the information from the broadcast sheet and fasten it to the car but still have not decided whether I want to go through that yet?? Problem is my temper....if I do have one made and a member of the fender tag police comes up to me and gives me any crap about it, I'm liable to become insensitive toward that person and tell him or her to walk the F*** away from my car now and don't come back?? I don't give a damn whether my fender tag is an oem tag or an aftermarket made tag....as long as the information on that tag correctly matches the broadcast sheet. Sure it would be nice to have the original tag the car was built with but sometimes that is a needle in a hay stack so my thought is.....so the hell what....... I agree why not. Tired of the Fake/fraud label for all circumstances. Reproduction Fender Tag is a Reproduction Fender Tag like it or not. Lots of Bigger things going on in the world to be concerned with. Becomes a very minor concern in the big picture. But everyone entitled to there opinion like mine. Just don't tell someone what to do when a product for restoration is available on the market to replace missing parts of the car. IMO WANTED : ...A New Sponsor or Winning Lottery Ticket 69 A12 road runner ,Q5, post coupe, 4 speed, former Drag car restored to "Driver" condition in the early 90's, Showing some Patina. SS/E Track Record Holder 1980 10.40 @ 130mph

Re: Repop fender tag [Re: Q5_Ed] #1679313 01/16/15 08:46 AM 01/16/15 08:46 AM
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Trifecta member T Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 2 Florida (FL)	I have my original fender tag but it is in bad shape with holes rusted straight through in some places. I have removed it and want to take steps to stop the oxidation process. Would be great to have some advice as to the best approach. Again it is very rusty so a sand or bead blast might destroy it. Also considering the use of a repop and storing the original. Thoughts?

Re: Repop fender tag [Re: Trifecta] #1679314 01/16/15 11:08 AM 01/16/15 11:08 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,304 WI RestoRick top fuel
RestoRick top fuel Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,304 WI	Safest method would be to soak it in Evaporust. I've repaired holes in tags.

Re: Repop fender tag [Re: RestoRick] #1679315 01/16/15 02:57 PM 01/16/15 02:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,086 Strathroy, Ontario BS27R1B master
BS27R1B master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,086 Strathroy, Ontario	I need a repop tag for a car I have two sheets for. It isn't a very valuable car but I would like a tag made and have an R in the corner so we know it is not the original. Maybe a subtle second tag with a pointed message for those who would notice. The NCRS guys should have been adding the R to their block stampings for years. They have created the monster by not scoring the engine bay area if the block is not stamped correctly. They sure did not think that one trough very well. '.. it was long ago and it was far away, and it was so much better than it is today..' Jim Steinman

Re: Repop fender tag [Re: Q5_Ed] #1679316 01/17/15 11:52 AM 01/17/15 11:52 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA 62maxwgn master
62maxwgn master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA	Quote: Quote: Fender Tags, Fender Tags, Fender Tags......... I have a pretty valuable car that has a real nice broadcast sheet but I too am missing my OEM fender tag. I have pondered the idea of having a duplicate made based off the information from the broadcast sheet and fasten it to the car but still have not decided whether I want to go through that yet?? Problem is my temper....if I do have one made and a member of the fender tag police comes up to me and gives me any crap about it, I'm liable to become insensitive toward that person and tell him or her to walk the F*** away from my car now and don't come back?? I don't give a damn whether my fender tag is an oem tag or an aftermarket made tag....as long as the information on that tag correctly matches the broadcast sheet. Sure it would be nice to have the original tag the car was built with but sometimes that is a needle in a hay stack so my thought is.....so the hell what....... I agree why not. Tired of the Fake/fraud label for all circumstances. Reproduction Fender Tag is a Reproduction Fender Tag like it or not. Lots of Bigger things going on in the world to be concerned with. Becomes a very minor concern in the big picture. But everyone entitled to there opinion like mine. Just don't tell someone what to do when a product for restoration is available on the market to replace missing parts of the car. IMO Ed,you can go one step farther,if a repop tag is considered a fake/fraud,then I guess that could call all repop parts fake/fraud.

Re: Repop fender tag [Re: E-Ticket] #1679317 01/17/15 05:46 PM 01/17/15 05:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,012 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,012 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Problem is my temper....if I do have one made and a member of the fender tag police comes up to me and gives me any crap about it, I'm liable to become insensitive toward that person and tell him or her to walk the F*** away from my car now and don't come back?? The members of the fender tag police will not try to start any trouble , they will just point at it , laugh , mock and walk away ... it's you that will have to start the confrotation. It's your mistake for buying "A PRETTY VALUABLE CAR" without the tag , not the fender tag police ....

Re: Repop fender tag [Re: 62maxwgn] #1679318 01/17/15 05:48 PM 01/17/15 05:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,012 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,012 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Quote: I agree why not. Tired of the Fake/fraud label for all circumstances. Reproduction Fender Tag is a Reproduction Fender Tag like it or not. Lots of Bigger things going on in the world to be concerned with. Becomes a very minor concern in the big picture. But everyone entitled to there opinion like mine. Just don't tell someone what to do when a product for restoration is available on the market to replace missing parts of the car. IMO Ed,you can go one step farther,if a repop tag is considered a fake/fraud,then I guess that could call all repop parts fake/fraud. Ed doesn't really want to go there ...

Re: Repop fender tag [Re: JohnRR] #1679319 01/17/15 06:02 PM 01/17/15 06:02 PM
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68gtx enthusiast 6 Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 355	So if you find an original Hemi car in your neighbors barn. That has every piece of original documentation but is missing a fender tag?? Don't buy it. Are you guys for real. Its a nothing more than a trim tag with limited information.This stuff is

Re: Repop fender tag [Re: 68gtx] #1679320
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How did I miss this fine thread for the past 5 months? Every attribute of a car affects its perceived value.

Take two identical A12 Road Runners sequential VIN shipped to the same dealership (originally owned by twin brothers) with identical amounts of original documentation & restored by the same "well known" restoration shop, only problem is - one is missing its fender tag & no known pictures/rubbings exist of the original.

Is there more or less difference in value between the two cars than $150.00?

Re: Repop fender tag [Re: 6bblgt] #1679321 01/17/15 08:13 PM 01/17/15 08:13 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada D DPelletier I Live Here
DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	Quote: How did I miss this fine thread for the past 5 months? Every attribute of a car affects its perceived value. Take two identical A12 Road Runners sequential VIN shipped to the same dealership (originally owned by twin brothers) with identical amounts of original documentation & restored by the same "well known" restoration shop, only problem is - one is missing its fender tag & no known pictures/rubbings exist of the original. Is there more or less difference in value between the two cars than $150.00? ....it's alot more than $150.00 Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: Repop fender tag [Re: DPelletier] #1679322 01/17/15 11:48 PM 01/17/15 11:48 PM
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68gtx enthusiast 6 Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 355	Why would you devalue a car because it is missing a a piece of metal that provides limited information at best? Fender tag should only be part of the consideration when buying a car. If i was buying an A12 that was documented with build sheet, body stamps, invoice, service records ect. Missing the fender tag would never stop me from buying the car. We as Mopar owners should not DEVALUE our cars just because it missing a fender tag.

Re: Repop fender tag [Re: 68gtx] #1679323 01/18/15 12:50 AM 01/18/15 12:50 AM
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69CoronetRT master Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,948 Harlan, Iowa	Quote: Why would you devalue a car because it is missing a a piece of metal that provides limited information at best? Because an original fender tag provides, at least, minimal documentation and is one undisputable piece of evidence as to how the car was originally built and equipped. Remove it and everything that is listed on the tag comes into question. Color. Transmission. Options. Not every car had or has a correct broadcast sheet or other documentation. EVERY car had a fender tag. Is it the sole piece of documentation one should consider? No. Is it a very important piece? Yes. Seeking: 1969 St. Louis plant VINs, SPD, and VONs. Over 2,000 thanks to you!

Re: Repop fender tag [Re: 69CoronetRT] #1679324 01/18/15 02:48 AM 01/18/15 02:48 AM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada D DPelletier I Live Here
DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	Quote: Quote: Why would you devalue a car because it is missing a a piece of metal that provides limited information at best? Because an original fender tag provides, at least, minimal documentation and is one undisputable piece of evidence as to how the car was originally built and equipped. Remove it and everything that is listed on the tag comes into question. Color. Transmission. Options. Not every car had or has a correct broadcast sheet or other documentation. EVERY car had a fender tag. Is it the sole piece of documentation one should consider? No. Is it a very important piece? Yes. Well said, Doug. After the VIN, bodystamps and title (which should definitely be there) the FT is THE most important documentation a Mopar has. I wouldn't let the lack of a tag stop me from buying a car IF it had a BS but it definitely has value. ....I'd much rather have the FT than a #'s engine. Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: Repop fender tag [Re: DPelletier] #1679325 01/18/15 11:34 AM 01/18/15 11:34 AM
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68gtx enthusiast 6 Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 355	I don't think anyone is questioning the value of a fender tag. I have purchased cars with and without documentation. I have a car now with a matching drive train and no tag but i do have the BS. I have struggled with putting a tag on it. In reality putting a remade tag on it is not going to change what the car is. The BS has far more information than the Lynch Road fender tag.We as Mopar owners are very lucky in the fact that the VIN# tells us what motor the car was born with and factory it came from.If you have other documentation and missing a fender tag I see no problem with having 1 made. If you spend $$$ to have a car restored and have a rusted up FT again I see no issues. If yours was lost or someone stole yours again no issues.

Re: Repop fender tag [Re: 68gtx] #1679326 01/18/15 03:20 PM 01/18/15 03:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Thee VAST majority of those that think fake fender tags are just fine, make no value difference, etc. etc. Are typically those that already own a fake one or are hoping to get validation on thier decision to buy a fake one.

Re: Repop fender tag [Re: 68gtx] #1679327 01/18/15 03:20 PM 01/18/15 03:20 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada D DPelletier I Live Here
DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	Quote: I don't think anyone is questioning the value of a fender tag. I have purchased cars with and without documentation. I have a car now with a matching drive train and no tag but i do have the BS. I have struggled with putting a tag on it. In reality putting a remade tag on it is not going to change what the car is. The BS has far more information than the Lynch Road fender tag.We as Mopar owners are very lucky in the fact that the VIN# tells us what motor the car was born with and factory it came from.If you have other documentation and missing a fender tag I see no problem with having 1 made. If you spend $$$ to have a car restored and have a rusted up FT again I see no issues. If yours was lost or someone stole yours again no issues. I agree with all that and I'd be fine with either the tag or sheet. The LR tags are certainly different but they have more info on them than people give them credit for....If I had to chose one or the other, I'd rather have the tag only because it is a bolted on to the car rather than a pce of paper that may or may not have been in the car when it left the factory. Though I'm not a huge fan of repop tags, I admit that I'd have one made if something happened to mine....but I have pencil rubbings and dozens of pics of the original so it could be duplicated with no guess work. I totally agree that we are very lucky to have the engine in the VIN. I've been a brand X collector previously and it's VERY nice to have that in there. Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: Repop fender tag [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1679328 01/18/15 07:02 PM 01/18/15 07:02 PM
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69CoronetRT master Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,948 Harlan, Iowa	Quote: Thee VAST majority of those that think fake fender tags are just fine, make no value difference, etc. etc. Are typically those that already own a fake one or are hoping to get validation on thier decision to buy a fake one. Scott, I think we've just seen a good example of your post. Did this (fake) tag over inflate a purchase price? 8400544-70_XS29_E87_D32_FJ5_186075_H51_N88.jpg (163 downloads) Seeking: 1969 St. Louis plant VINs, SPD, and VONs. Over 2,000 thanks to you!

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