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Repop fender tag
#1679229
09/28/14 04:26 PM
09/28/14 04:26 PM
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Lil Herman
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To make a correct fender tag when you don't have one where do you start? My build sheet is incomplete, but I know the cars color, engine, transmission, rear end, rear end ratio, interior color, brakes, radiator size, and rear tail stripe. What I don't know is the build date etc. can I contact Chrysler historical to find out? 
56 Plaza 63 D100 step side 67 Coronet, 68 Roadrunner, 69 Super Bees, 69 Coronet 500 convertible, 70 Roadrunner Post, 79 D150 360, and a severe case of Mopar a,d,d
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: 68gtx]
#1679231
09/28/14 06:04 PM
09/28/14 06:04 PM
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bethlehem pa
mikemee1331
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Chrysler historical society can only help up to 1967. After that there is nothing. This question will not well received here. I would ask on another forum. Some of the guys on here aka. Fender Tag Police get real excited when you ask about making a fender tag. 
while i'm not going to disagree with you I will add that KNOWN contributing members are treated a little differently as is the case here. what he might get as a response is a PM from somebody who can help.
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: mikemee1331]
#1679232
09/28/14 06:14 PM
09/28/14 06:14 PM
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Spokane Washington
ScottSmith_Harms
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what he might get as a response is a PM from somebody who can help.
Let's not candy coat it ok?
Here's the deal: First, if the original tag is gone it's impossible to reproduce one exactly like the original, even with a perfect broadcast sheet in hand (because thetags varied a bit in the details which you could never know without having the legible original).
So let's assume that little detail doesn't bother you. If the broadcast sheet is incomplete, and the car is a post 67 car with no Chrysler Historical IBM copy to gather info from, any attempt at making a tag will result in one that was produced using at least some guesswork, not reliable facts. Therefore, it's 100% worthless. There is no "help" in this case, only someone willing to take your money and make you a bogus fake.
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
#1679233
09/28/14 06:28 PM
09/28/14 06:28 PM
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Lil Herman
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Guess I'll just have a spare tag that doesn't match the car painted to take the originals place.
56 Plaza 63 D100 step side 67 Coronet, 68 Roadrunner, 69 Super Bees, 69 Coronet 500 convertible, 70 Roadrunner Post, 79 D150 360, and a severe case of Mopar a,d,d
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: 68gtx]
#1679236
09/28/14 07:45 PM
09/28/14 07:45 PM
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DAYCLONA
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If you have a build sheet or partial and you want a tag made then have it made. I have seen tags that are 100% original be called out as fake on here. So just put it on the car and let the car speak for itself. We should not be devaluing our cars just because its missing a fender tag. In most cases it does not contain every option on the car. If you have a lynch road car it has very limited information on it anyway. Just have it made and bolt it on. 
 go to www.datatags.com
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: DAYCLONA]
#1679237
09/28/14 08:19 PM
09/28/14 08:19 PM
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Spokane Washington
ScottSmith_Harms
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If you have a build sheet or partial and you want a tag made then have it made. I have seen tags that are 100% original be called out as fake on here. So just put it on the car and let the car speak for itself. We should not be devaluing our cars just because its missing a fender tag. In most cases it does not contain every option on the car. If you have a lynch road car it has very limited information on it anyway. Just have it made and bolt it on.
go to www.datatags.com
Funny, you guys suggest that if someone confuses a fake for a real one or vice versa than making more fakes is now "ok" and it doesn't matter? Good luck with that!
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We should not be devaluing our cars just because its missing a fender tag.
Well, like it or not, it does affect value if it's missing. Either way, adding a fake tag if the original is missing it doesn't make it any more valuable, in fact, if it's discovered as a fake it could very well bring down the value.
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
#1679239
09/28/14 10:32 PM
09/28/14 10:32 PM
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jersey shore
flypaper
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We should not be devaluing our cars just because its missing a fender tag.
Well, like it or not, it does affect value if it's missing. Either way, adding a fake tag if the original is missing it doesn't make it any more valuable, in fact, if it's discovered as a fake it could very well bring down the value.
what if a so called guru with a fantasy registry creates it
and gives it his blessing? 
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: flypaper]
#1679240
09/28/14 11:20 PM
09/28/14 11:20 PM
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Houston, Texas
Slant6pak
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While everybody already has their asbestos underwear on...
My not rare, triple green, 383 2 barrel Coronet's fender tag has an ugly rust hole in the middle of it.
I would like a have a duplicate of the original (which, again I have) made that does not have said ugly rust hole it.
Can somebody PM who I should use?
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: 68gtx]
#1679242
09/28/14 11:33 PM
09/28/14 11:33 PM
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jersey shore
flypaper
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I hate Texas
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If its a duplicate is is fake?
nope
but if you have to create a tag all bets are off..
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: flypaper]
#1679243
09/29/14 01:09 AM
09/29/14 01:09 AM
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I always get a laugh at this one. As the guys with the original fender tag, but reproduction metal, motor parts, interior parts, every other internal part complain. I have a road runner with original RR metal, brakes, rims, rotors, drums, booster, MC, interior, trim, bumper, lights, wiper blades, etc. Of course it was upgraded with disc brakes, hemi suspension, dana60, and bucket interior. Again, all dated coded RR parts. Probably more original Mopar date coded parts on it than a high end show car. But it will never be full numbers matching. Does have a broadcast sheet though. Oh and impeccable body and paint and chrome on a 15 yo restoration. No just joking I refused to buy it because it was missing the fender tag.  Given some high end cars that have been found to have restamped motors, and transmissions, body swaps, fake broadcast sheets and even window stickers. Who cares that the fender tag is original. The buyer needs to evaluate the car and the paper with the car anyway. If it is a driver and your honest about the car when you sell it, it has no impact on anyones car or price. Heck, the aftermarket parts are destroying value of all original cars more than anything IMHO. G
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: new bee]
#1679244
09/29/14 02:03 AM
09/29/14 02:03 AM
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if it's discovered as a fake it could very well bring down the value.
I agree.
I would be very aprehensive to buy any car with a fake tag. It doesn't mean there are other questionable things waiting to be found, but, in my opinion, it raises the chances. That's what would be going through my head as a potential buyer of any fake-tag car.
IMHO if your buying a musclecar and "value/resale/investment/etc" is on your criteria list, your in the wrong hobby...perhaps a hobby of Numismatics would be better suited for individuals consumed with "value"? 
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Re: Repop fender tag
[Re: KillerBee]
#1679247
09/29/14 01:11 PM
09/29/14 01:11 PM
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Harlan, Iowa
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This topic always brings up different opinions.
Personally I would much rather have a car's original build sheet than it's origina fender tag
I do find it amusing that some people won't consider buying a car with a repop fender tag, especially one made from an original build sheet, but have no issues with a car with new Chinese made quarters, doors, fenders, floors, interior and trim parts, etc. 
Replacement parts on a 50 year old car don't change the underlying original pedigree of the car. (Who wants to drive with a 50 YO fan belt, radiator hose or tires?) Sheet metal on a 318 car is pretty much the same as a Hemi car.
A fender tag is one of the items used to document originality. Sheet metal doesn't.
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as quickly or harshly as say a newish member might be.
