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Leaky front runners what to do? #1677744 09/27/14 09:01 PM 09/27/14 09:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,002 Joplin, Mo R rt66jim OP master
rt66jim OP master R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,002 Joplin, Mo	When I got this Daytona it had new GY front runners on it. The guy I bought it from said the front wheels needed to be resealed. They are the old Cragar super tricks. So I resealed the wheels. Well they were still going flat so today I used the soapy water. They are leaking through the sidewalls. What is the fix for this? I've heard of using dish soap on the rears. Will the latex fix-a-flat work? Jim [IMG]http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d104/rt66jim/scan0001_zpso6tfgkqx.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Leaky front runners what to do? [Re: rt66jim] #1677745 09/27/14 09:30 PM 09/27/14 09:30 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club
WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH	Fix a flat is a temp fix and I've even seen it ruin a tire from being left in. It degraded the rubber and made it impossible to balance the tire. Dish soap on the inside of the side wall can fix a leaking side wall if it's not too bad. If the tires have been left outside for a long period of time and you can see weather cracking on the side walls then your only option is to replace the tires. I had this issue once and talked to the goodyear rep about it once and was informed that the race tires do not have the UV protection stuff that normal daily driver tires do.

Re: Leaky front runners what to do? [Re: WILD BILL] #1677746 09/27/14 11:39 PM 09/27/14 11:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,002 Joplin, Mo R rt66jim OP master
rt66jim OP master R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,002 Joplin, Mo	Bill these tires have always been inside a garage. When I bought the car last July they still had the mold [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] on them. I have made 2 runs on them. The side walls are not dry cracked. They are seeping air where the serial number plate left it's mark in the side wall.

Re: Leaky front runners what to do? [Re: rt66jim] #1677747 09/27/14 11:58 PM 09/27/14 11:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club
WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH	Try the dish soap then. I admit I've never had to use on front tires but it does work. I've even used it to seal the rear tires on my girls Jrs.

Re: Leaky front runners what to do? [Re: WILD BILL] #1677748 09/28/14 12:26 AM 09/28/14 12:26 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,002 Joplin, Mo R rt66jim OP master
rt66jim OP master R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,002 Joplin, Mo	Bill will I have to dismount them? Can I put it in by taking out the valve core and putting it through the valve stem?

Re: Leaky front runners what to do? [Re: rt66jim] #1677749 09/28/14 12:31 AM 09/28/14 12:31 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club
WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH	You will need to dismount them as you want to coat the entire inside surface with an even coat.

Re: Leaky front runners what to do? [Re: WILD BILL] #1677750 09/28/14 12:54 AM 09/28/14 12:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,002 Joplin, Mo R rt66jim OP master
rt66jim OP master R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,002 Joplin, Mo	Ok Thanks for the help. And welcome back again. Jim

Re: Leaky front runners what to do? [Re: WILD BILL] #1677751 09/28/14 03:55 AM 09/28/14 03:55 AM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	Quote: Fix a flat is a temp fix and I've even seen it ruin a tire from being left in. It degraded the rubber and made it impossible to balance the tire. Dish soap on the inside of the side wall can fix a leaking side wall if it's not too bad. If the tires have been left outside for a long period of time and you can see weather cracking on the side walls then your only option is to replace the tires. I had this issue once and talked to the goodyear rep about it once and was informed that the race tires do not have the UV protection stuff that normal daily driver tires do. I used fix a flat on my rear tires and it worked great to seal em but now you`ve got me thinking twice about it........... Nice 2 c u again Bill. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Leaky front runners what to do? [Re: rt66jim] #1677752 09/28/14 09:59 AM 09/28/14 09:59 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida Locomotion master
Locomotion master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida	I'm surprised that nobody mentioned installing tubes, preferably a size smaller than recommended. That does defeat the purpose of having lightweight front tires, but it would be the most effective fix. I use to "paint" the insides of my slicks with dish soap, but haven't needed to with Hoosier radial slicks. Never did the fronts, but I'd be careful. Obviously, age even without sun exposure causes rubber to deteriorate. I had a "brand new" 7 year old trailer tire, stored indoors, peel like a banana after less than 2,000 miles. (Is there a metal valve stem rule for front wheels/tires?) Last edited by Locomotion; 09/28/14 10:00 AM.

Re: Leaky front runners what to do? [Re: Locomotion] #1677753 09/28/14 10:45 AM 09/28/14 10:45 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club
WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH	Quote: (Is there a metal valve stem rule for front wheels/tires?) Not as far as I know but then I've been out of it for a while I do use metal valves in every wheel that does not have a tube though.

Re: Leaky front runners what to do? [Re: WILD BILL] #1677754 09/28/14 10:51 AM 09/28/14 10:51 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	be safe, replace them. not worth the risk

Re: Leaky front runners what to do? [Re: Quicktree] #1677755 09/28/14 12:00 PM 09/28/14 12:00 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,395 Pa Hot 340 master
Hot 340 master Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,395 Pa	Quote: be safe, replace them. not worth the risk What Tony said. If they were on a garden tractor Id fix them. But for a race car they would be in the trash can. Those tires sound compromised.

Re: Leaky front runners what to do? [Re: Quicktree] #1677756 09/28/14 02:54 PM 09/28/14 02:54 PM
Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 57 Woodstock, IL TurboMike member
TurboMike member Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 57 Woodstock, IL	I had the same problem with my old Crager Super tricks, kept going flat. Turned out to be at the seam,where the two wheel halfs bolt together. Cleaned the old sealer off and put new stuff on..good to go.

Re: Leaky front runners what to do? [Re: TurboMike] #1677757 09/28/14 10:05 PM 09/28/14 10:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,002 Joplin, Mo R rt66jim OP master
rt66jim OP master R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,002 Joplin, Mo	Quote: I had the same problem with my old Crager Super tricks, kept going flat. Turned out to be at the seam,where the two wheel halfs bolt together. Cleaned the old sealer off and put new stuff on..good to go. I did that first.

Re: Leaky front runners what to do? [Re: WILD BILL] #1677758 09/28/14 10:17 PM 09/28/14 10:17 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,454 Glendora Ca. J Just-a-dart pro stock
Just-a-dart pro stock J Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,454 Glendora Ca.	Quote: Quote: (Is there a metal valve stem rule for front wheels/tires?) Not as far as I know but then I've been out of it for a while I do use metal valves in every wheel that does not have a tube though. Yes there is, I was called on it once. NHRA General Reg. Sec 20 5.1 "Metal, screw-in valve stems mandatory in tubeless tires, front and rear, on vehicles running 11.99 or quicker" "Just a Bracket car dressed up like a streetcar"

Re: Leaky front runners what to do? [Re: Just-a-dart] #1677759 09/28/14 10:57 PM 09/28/14 10:57 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club
WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH	Good to know. I guess I never did cause I always use the metal valves anyways

Re: Leaky front runners what to do? [Re: WILD BILL] #1677760 09/29/14 07:14 PM 09/29/14 07:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376 D dogdays I Live Here
dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	I have used Seal-All, a thin smear after roughing up the inside surface where the leak is. If you air up the tire a little it'll push the Seal-All into the pinhole until it dries. A thin smear doesn't affect the balance either. R.

Re: Leaky front runners what to do? [Re: dogdays] #1677761 09/29/14 09:05 PM 09/29/14 09:05 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 621 Iowa C coronetville mopar
coronetville mopar C Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 621 Iowa	Dont buy front runners, period

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