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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build
[Re: Charger453]
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10/06/14 01:11 PM
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VVT cam blocks
Any way to retofit earlier cams/timing set into these blocks? IE - anyone developing a kit or parts to do so?
Or are you just totally locked into the 09+ stuff?
Drag Week 2011 - 77th place - DD
Drag Week 2012 - 2nd place SRBB N/A
Drag Week 2014 - Kapooya
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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build
[Re: WO23Coronet]
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10/08/14 12:17 PM
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Just plopping this quote from Steff in this thread because it pretty much answers my question. Quote:
[A bearing] Spacer alone will not cut it. The length of the cam is different as well. You'd have to make a snout for the G3 cam to compensate for the difference in length and diameter. Then that snout would have to be pressed onto the G3 cam prior to final journal grinding to make sure all journals are concentric to each other. I've been thru this thought process. I even cosidered machining the front of the block to open up the front of the block like the G3 front is and then spacer the bore for a G3 front cam bearing. The problem with doing that is they redesigned the front cooling passages as well, so with the machining needed, it would blow right into the relocated cooling passages. Then, in order to fix that , you'd have to look at redirecting the coolant in the heads from where these original passaged flowed to. Again, I've been thru all of this thought process and the G4 & G3 blocks are different in front that they require their own specific parts.
This is why I had LSM machine up a custom cam core. The $800 for the cam was cheaper than all the cobbling up that would be needed to avoid it.
Drag Week 2011 - 77th place - DD
Drag Week 2012 - 2nd place SRBB N/A
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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build
[Re: STEFF]
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10/09/14 06:17 PM
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Next question:
Apache (6.4L) heads on a 5.7L block.
I read that a bore notch *may* be needed, but everything I read is regurgitated second-hand info. No first-hand accounts or pics of the required notch.
So to notch or not? That is my question!
Drag Week 2011 - 77th place - DD
Drag Week 2012 - 2nd place SRBB N/A
Drag Week 2014 - Kapooya
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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build
[Re: sixpackgut]
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10/09/14 10:18 PM
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Post for any/all who may know -
What psi for a blow through application with a 6.1 would be conservative enough to keep running the factory rods and slugs indefinitely?
Or will any boost see me blowing oil past the rings
In 12 mths time?
67 RO23 clone with 6.1 SRT Hemi and dual quads. Soon to have Drag Pak induction and Throttle body.
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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build
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10/10/14 07:50 AM
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Quote:
Next question:
Apache (6.4L) heads on a 5.7L block.
I read that a bore notch *may* be needed, but everything I read is regurgitated second-hand info. No first-hand accounts or pics of the required notch.
So to notch or not? That is my question!
I'm the one who took the pics. It's without a gasket. It would require a small notch.
For the life of me I can't find the post.
When I get home from work tonight I will make a post with pics.
Matt
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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build
[Re: mshred]
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10/10/14 07:54 AM
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Quote:
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http://blogs.hotrod.com/417ci-gen-iii-he...014-145505.html
Article says Thitek worked production 6.4 heads, specs at the bottom just say Thitek, ported....Either way, very impressive piece for sure! Wonder if it is using adjustable valvetrain with the hydraulic roller.
I'm thinking they use the thitek heads so they can put the best port for the job at hand. Instead of fixing a factory casting.
Matt
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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build
[Re: sixpackgut]
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10/11/14 09:15 PM
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Quote:
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No, that is an assembled pair.
I tried selling my eagles to buy a set, but I might buy a set anyway... 
have I ever told every one on this site how much I hate them? I just pulled the trigger on 6.4 heads. I got them from mopar-wholesale. they were $470+150 core each. That is the cheapest they have been in a very long time. I check regularly
Just went to pull the trigger on these now and of course the site has changed to something totally different and there is nothing listed anymore for ANY cylinder heads 
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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build
[Re: mshred]
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10/11/14 11:32 PM
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Quote:
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No, that is an assembled pair.
I tried selling my eagles to buy a set, but I might buy a set anyway...
have I ever told every one on this site how much I hate them? I just pulled the trigger on 6.4 heads. I got them from mopar-wholesale. they were $470+150 core each. That is the cheapest they have been in a very long time. I check regularly
Just went to pull the trigger on these now and of course the site has changed to something totally different and there is nothing listed anymore for ANY cylinder heads
Don't Panic.. 
http://rtpartsco.com/store/
Select 2013 Dodge Charger SRT
Put in these numbers: 68086555AA 68086556AA
Chris.. 
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for the above post.
