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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: sixpackgut] #1674910
09/27/14 11:30 PM
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Don't get me wrong, the DP intake isn't anything fancy. It' a compromised intake that in basic design, a carb intake.

That being said, I'd only use one on a 426+ CI motor, 240+ @.050 camshaft, 12:1 compression on 93, 2" headers with heads like my eagles. That would be over 550rwhp from a streetable combination, and it would be perfect to run a 250+shot on.

As a matter of fact, that just may be what I build next...but with the shorter intake. It would be way less trouble than the forced induction on my car.




sounds like mine except the comp


what valve covers are you running?

Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: headhunter] #1674911
09/28/14 06:15 AM
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Mines not really a " build" -

Factory 6.1 crate
SRTMAXPLUS cam 218/227 566/556
Indy modman
Dual 500 Eddies
PSI 1511 springs
Carter 120gph fuel pump
MSD 6013 ignition pack
Alloy radiator, overflow and puke tank
Factory coils, plugs

Fwiw...I had horrendous issues getting a decent fuel distribution and pump shot to get the car to launch clean.

Pretty much fixed it by using a plenum divider - but next time Id run the Edelbrock DP dual quad intake or a blower





67 RO23 clone with 6.1 SRT Hemi and dual quads. Soon to have Drag Pak induction and Throttle body.
Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: AlexP] #1674912
09/28/14 08:32 AM
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I am using stock non MDS lifters that are gutted and had a solid roller grind cam made for it.

Also I do have the Harland Sharps that are not cheap

Alex The FAST XFI is great now that the motor is happy. I had so many issues with the HYD roller cam and non ADJ rockers valve springs push rods etc... that I had motor issues not EFI tunning issues like I first thought.




Good to hear, what magic is there in your lifters?

Also, what is the static and dynamic compression?




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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: justinp61] #1674913
09/28/14 04:05 PM
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What is the answer to prevent crank bearing failure?


71 Barracuda 383 4spd (500ci)
69 camaro 598, NOS
69 barracuda bbc procharger
77 t/a 6.0 turbo project
78 t/a 400
77 corvette
1983 hurst/olds
03 Viper
79 360 macho
71 demon 360
78 Warlock 5.7 hemi project
Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: EV2CUDA] #1674914
09/28/14 04:22 PM
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Ok guys David Barton did my lifters. I was at his shop and he took them apart while I was there. There is really not much inside them. He told me sometimes he will put the spring back in the lifter sometimes no. I believe mine have nothing in them No spacers shims etc. I have a few sets of lifters I will try and take some apart and get some pics to share.

Not sure on my compression but cranking compression is 240 PSI

Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: EV2CUDA] #1674915
09/28/14 04:34 PM
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What is the answer to prevent crank bearing failure?


what setup are you running that is having bearing failure?


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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: 72Swinger] #1674916
09/28/14 04:41 PM
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A previous post talked about oiling issues. I have a couple stock 5.7 engines with spun bearings. I have not inspected. But for $100 they were a good deal. 05 5.7's.


71 Barracuda 383 4spd (500ci)
69 camaro 598, NOS
69 barracuda bbc procharger
77 t/a 6.0 turbo project
78 t/a 400
77 corvette
1983 hurst/olds
03 Viper
79 360 macho
71 demon 360
78 Warlock 5.7 hemi project
Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: EV2CUDA] #1674917
09/28/14 04:58 PM
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There has, and IMO opinion it has something to do with the crossdrilling of stock 5.7 cranks. The fellow that was having issues with a circle track engine put in an aftermarket crank and has been having success ever since IIRC. This issue has not reared its ugly head to my knowledge in the LX community with guys turning 7K with 6.1's or newer Eagle 5.7's. Also there is an emptying of the pan issue that happens at 7k + rpm that has been mentioned and the FS drag paks are all running 10qt pans because of this it seems.


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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: 340RICK] #1674918
09/28/14 05:19 PM
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Not sure on my compression but cranking compression is 240 PSI




Thanks .

Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: 72Swinger] #1674919
09/28/14 09:55 PM
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There has, and IMO opinion it has something to do with the crossdrilling of stock 5.7 cranks. The fellow that was having issues with a circle track engine put in an aftermarket crank and has been having success ever since IIRC. This issue has not reared its ugly head to my knowledge in the LX community with guys turning 7K with 6.1's or newer Eagle 5.7's. Also there is an emptying of the pan issue that happens at 7k + rpm that has been mentioned and the FS drag paks are all running 10qt pans because of this it seems.





I am the one that had the oiling problems with a circle track build. My computer is down right now, and I don't have any pics on this lap top, but if you google/search "Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.." some of the pics will be there. The custom built pan holds 11 quarts. A Molnar rotating assembly cured all my headaches!!


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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: CHAPPER] #1674920
09/29/14 01:39 AM
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getting ready to do this swap in the next few weeks/months in my 67 coronet. 5.7 hemi out of a 04 Durango. indy modman intake, will have a special built carb, using my original 904 trans, msd6 for spark. right now its stock motor making around 350hp maybe with intake and carb..??? dunno. I plan to swap a cam and springs, before dropping it in. so looooooving this thread... and I will add to it as time go's on. I also have a hemi build thread going over on the b-body board.

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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: 340RICK] #1674921
09/29/14 11:01 AM
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Not sure on my compression but cranking compression is 240 PSI




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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: BBR] #1674922
09/29/14 01:57 PM
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Not sure on my compression but cranking compression is 240 PSI




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A stock 5.7 is almost 200.

These motors don't mind compression at all. You can run high-ish compression and an aggressive timing curve on 93 without issue.


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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: headhunter] #1674923
09/29/14 02:13 PM
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Don't get me wrong, the DP intake isn't anything fancy. It' a compromised intake that in basic design, a carb intake.

That being said, I'd only use one on a 426+ CI motor, 240+ @.050 camshaft, 12:1 compression on 93, 2" headers with heads like my eagles. That would be over 550rwhp from a streetable combination, and it would be perfect to run a 250+shot on.

As a matter of fact, that just may be what I build next...but with the shorter intake. It would be way less trouble than the forced induction on my car.




sounds like mine except the comp


what valve covers are you running?





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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: sixpackgut] #1674924
09/29/14 05:25 PM
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Has anyone used one of these to convert a VVT HEMI to use a standard cam?
http://m.ebay.com/itm/131309571355?nav=SEARCH

Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: WO23Coronet] #1674925
09/29/14 05:33 PM
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Has anyone used one of these to convert a VVT HEMI to use a standard cam?
http://m.ebay.com/itm/131309571355?nav=SEARCH




There is a phaser eliminator kit from comp cams and one tuner that I spoke with said that its as simple as swapping to an older cam and crank sensor if you wanted to run it on aftermarket efi.

If you go with a factory computer from Hotwire, you can keep the VVT and variable intake manifold.


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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: uncledon] #1674926
09/29/14 05:50 PM
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getting ready to do this swap in the next few weeks/months in my 67 coronet. 5.7 hemi out of a 04 Durango. indy modman intake, will have a special built carb, using my original 904 trans, msd6 for spark. right now its stock motor making around 350hp maybe with intake and carb..??? dunno. I plan to swap a cam and springs, before dropping it in. so looooooving this thread... and I will add to it as time go's on. I also have a hemi build thread going over on the b-body board.



So far no one I know of has had success in getting decent fuel distribution using a single carb on a Modman - Even Indy made 40hp more running dual quads in a Mopar Muscle article!

Look forward to hearing how your 'special carb' pans out - most of us have had to cover the poor low end flow by using a big 'tip in' ...and even then the manifold seems to demand a big AF volume at the high end - a lot like a tunnel ram.

Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: Moparmal] #1674927
09/29/14 10:03 PM
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the special carb deal is the carb is being built by one of the best carberator guys in the country and tuned by him on the motor on a dyno that's what is meant by the special carb

Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: headhunter] #1674928
09/30/14 05:14 PM
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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: WO23Coronet] #1674929
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Has anyone used one of these to convert a VVT HEMI to use a standard cam?
http://m.ebay.com/itm/131309571355?nav=SEARCH





That the same ones that run the early Hemi with a GM delphi computer.
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