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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: 340RICK] #1674890
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6.1 stroker 426ci
Manley stroker kit
Bullet solid roller .659/.678 262/276
6.1 heads CNC by Modern touched up and valve Job by David Barton 2.10x1.1.60 valve
Harland Sharp rockers 3/8 push rods
Drag Pak manifold untouched
Fast 4150 throttle body
Fast XFI/2.0
Made [Email]776HP@7400rpm[/Email] and [Email]610ftlbs@6100rpm[/Email]
best of 9.61 at 139mph




Rick, how are you liking the XFI? Also, what are your static and dynamic compression numbers?


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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: mshred] #1674891
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6.1 stroker 426ci
Manley stroker kit
Bullet solid roller .659/.678 262/276
6.1 heads CNC by Modern touched up and valve Job by David Barton 2.10x1.1.60 valve
Harland Sharp rockers 3/8 push rods
Drag Pak manifold untouched
Fast 4150 throttle body
Fast XFI/2.0
Made [Email]776HP@7400rpm[/Email] and [Email]610ftlbs@6100rpm[/Email]
best of 9.61 at 139mph




What lifters? and what rocker arms? Are they the ones that have a 2k price tag? Last I remember hearing mentioned was that no one is making solid roller lifters yet for the new hemis, and that aftermarket rockers were VERY expensive.

Car runs HARD though Rick! Everytime I see your sig and read about your combo, it makes me want a G3 even more!


What ive heard guys do with the solid rollers is converter the stock lifters to solid via some spacers. The stockers are that good and I have a couple sets and the things are beefcake 100%. I have a set of 6.1 heads I would be glad to part with that would be great for your 5.7 to Shred. Im gonna use them if I cant find someone who can use them, I have to sell them though to afford some Apaches.Edit: I'm gonna keep the 6.1 heads.

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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: 72Swinger] #1674892
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I am using stock non MDS lifters that are gutted and had a solid roller grind cam made for it.

Also I do have the Harland Sharps that are not cheap

Alex The FAST XFI is great now that the motor is happy. I had so many issues with the HYD roller cam and non ADJ rockers valve springs push rods etc... that I had motor issues not EFI tunning issues like I first thought.

Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: 340RICK] #1674893
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I am using stock non MDS lifters that are gutted and had a solid roller grind cam made for it.

Also I do have the Harland Sharps that are not cheap

Alex The FAST XFI is great now that the motor is happy. I had so many issues with the HYD roller cam and non ADJ rockers valve springs push rods etc... that I had motor issues not EFI tunning issues like I first thought.




Good to hear, what magic is there in your lifters?

Also, what is the static and dynamic compression?


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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: 340RICK] #1674894
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I am using stock non MDS lifters that are gutted and had a solid roller grind cam made for it.

Also I do have the Harland Sharps that are not cheap

Alex The FAST XFI is great now that the motor is happy. I had so many issues with the HYD roller cam and non ADJ rockers valve springs push rods etc... that I had motor issues not EFI tunning issues like I first thought.





Spring pressures collapsing the lifters making it run poorly? Mine seems to do that for a few minutes


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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: sixpackgut] #1674895
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I just saw this....


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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: 340RICK] #1674896
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I am using stock non MDS lifters that are gutted and had a solid roller grind cam made for it.

Also I do have the Harland Sharps that are not cheap

Alex The FAST XFI is great now that the motor is happy. I had so many issues with the HYD roller cam and non ADJ rockers valve springs push rods etc... that I had motor issues not EFI tunning issues like I first thought.




Gutted and fitted with a custom spacer? I guess going solid roller required the use of those Harland Sharp rockers also?

What weight is your car running those times at?...very impressive Rick!

Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: mshred] #1674897
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This is my favorite thread evaaarrrrr.


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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: BBR] #1674898
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Soaking all this in like a sponge as I am in the planning and parts gathering stage of my Gen3 build. Keep the info coming! Rick did Barton modify your lifters?


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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: Quickrunner] #1674899
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Hurry while the blocks are still available!


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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: 72Swinger] #1674900
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On a 5.7 or a 6.1.. is there certain year blocks that
are better than others... as in I'm looking at a 2005
5.7 thats suppose to be a running engine

Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1674901
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On a 5.7 or a 6.1.. is there certain year blocks that
are better than others... as in I'm looking at a 2005
5.7 thats suppose to be a running engine





No, they're all the same. I'd run a 5.7 block in a really high hp application over a 6.1. Just do a partial fill and run a really good oil cooler.


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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1674902
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Any year 6.1 is a win. I have read the early 03-04 5.7 block were thicker walled. An 05 5.7 is as good as any other 5.7 but it also has the benefit of no plug wires and no mds coming from a truck.


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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: 72Swinger] #1674903
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Any year 6.1 is a win. I have read the early 03-04 5.7 block were thicker walled. An 05 5.7 is as good as any other 5.7 but it also has the benefit of no plug wires and no mds coming from a truck.




This engine is coming out of a truck so MAYBE I should
continue to look... what does it take to kill
the MDS... to my understanding the lifters have a
slot in them for the solenoid to push something in

Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1674904
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Any year 6.1 is a win. I have read the early 03-04 5.7 block were thicker walled. An 05 5.7 is as good as any other 5.7 but it also has the benefit of no plug wires and no mds coming from a truck.




This engine is coming out of a truck so MAYBE I should
continue to look... what does it take to kill
the MDS... to my understanding the lifters have a
slot in them for the solenoid to push something in




You just need 4 MDS delete plugs from a 6.1 or HD 5.7. If you leave the solenoid in the block but unplugged, it will do weird things. Use the plugs and be done.


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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1674905
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Any year 6.1 is a win. I have read the early 03-04 5.7 block were thicker walled. An 05 5.7 is as good as any other 5.7 but it also has the benefit of no plug wires and no mds coming from a truck.




This engine is coming out of a truck so MAYBE I should
continue to look... what does it take to kill
the MDS... to my understanding the lifters have a
slot in them for the solenoid to push something in




05 5.7 from a truck shouldn't have MDS, so the one you found is what you want.


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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: Triple Threat] #1674906
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^^^^ that's what I thought I said lol....


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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: 72Swinger] #1674907
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The look of the later engines with no plug wires is definitely cleaner. What's needed to change to them? Just the later coils and the connectors?

Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: Charger453] #1674908
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05-08 valve covers too.


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Re: please share your gen 3 Hemi build [Re: 72Swinger] #1674909
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Sounds easy enough. Thanks.

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