Re: head recommendation for 360/426 stroker
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09/18/14 11:28 PM
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426ci and a solid roller I would go Indy
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best so far 1.212 60 6.219 in 1/8 at 110.88 9.768 at 137.81 1/4
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Re: head recommendation for 360/426 stroker
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09/19/14 12:40 AM
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650 should easily dip an A body in the 9's. Should be fun. If that was my goal, I would run the Indy oval port head, and talk to someone like Brian@ IMM on here if he want the cnc done on them before he or another builder finishes them. Your gonna have better rocker gear on them, an excellent intake for them, and more potential.
69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4 1.41 best 60 foot 6.60 at 103.90 1/8
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Re: head recommendation for 360/426 stroker
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09/19/14 12:45 AM
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That's what I heard also, I don't have an irrigation system at home but I know I can get it done cheaper than than running 2 hoses to 2 useless 360-1's on my lawn, lol
Glad to see you are doing your home work. I used the indy brocas with success but have had very very bad luck with indy otherwise. Unfortunately they have a corner in the market. Maybe call eden rock to find out where they are with those victors.
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Re: head recommendation for 360/426 stroker
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09/19/14 02:48 AM
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The Hughes heads are the CNC big mouth heads, 225 port volume that flow 320, cost of heads are 3200 plus their rocker gear your at 4k, this is before any spring upgrade for solid roller.. The Indy 360-1 from Indy is around 2k, the Cnc 245 is an extra 1k plus t&d rockers $1k puts it around $4k.. From what research I've done the last day or so. the Indys may need a little more attention.. Leaking issues, cracking. Etc.. Looking for 650 ish horsepower to put Scamp in low 10 class.
My first question would be.. what block.. being I think your talking stock block 650 would be about the limit I would go or go with a R3 block then non of these heads would be on the list.. but I might think about talking to Hughes to ask some questions on their heads like 320cfm at what lift but prepare to go above that lift by at least .060 or more.. ask what kind of spring pressure the rockers can handle... what kind of rpm are you planning to turn
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Re: head recommendation for 360/426 stroker
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I am running the Indy 360-2 heads ported by Brett Miller and they flow 337 @ .650.
1.33 60 ft,6.21 at 110.59 in the 1/8, pump gas small block,2950lbs,drag radials,mufflers and driven to track ...
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Re: head recommendation for 360/426 stroker
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Re: head recommendation for 360/426 stroker
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09/20/14 03:20 AM
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The Hughes heads are the CNC big mouth heads, 225 port volume that flow 320, cost of heads are 3200 plus their rocker gear your at 4k, this is before any spring upgrade for solid roller.. The Indy 360-1 from Indy is around 2k, the Cnc 245 is an extra 1k plus t&d rockers $1k puts it around $4k.. From what research I've done the last day or so. the Indys may need a little more attention.. Leaking issues, cracking. Etc.. Looking for 650 ish horsepower to put Scamp in low 10 class.
If you can run high compression, our ported eddy heads will make more than 650HP. Typically, 13:1, our heads, cam in the 260's @.050 and correct supporting equipment will get 670's regularly... Brian
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Re: head recommendation for 360/426 stroker
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09/20/14 10:09 AM
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The Hughes heads are the CNC big mouth heads, 225 port volume that flow 320, cost of heads are 3200 plus their rocker gear your at 4k, this is before any spring upgrade for solid roller.. The Indy 360-1 from Indy is around 2k, the Cnc 245 is an extra 1k plus t&d rockers $1k puts it around $4k.. From what research I've done the last day or so. the Indys may need a little more attention.. Leaking issues, cracking. Etc.. Looking for 650 ish horsepower to put Scamp in low 10 class.
If you can run high compression, our ported eddy heads will make more than 650HP. Typically, 13:1, our heads, cam in the 260's @.050 and correct supporting equipment will get 670's regularly... Brian
That sounds SUPER optimistic with Eddie heads. Over 670 horse? So that means 3300 pound cars are running 9.70 and 9.80's with them at 136/137 mph. Would love to see such a build and the on track results. I know your a great guy and builder Brian. But if your going to make an outlandish. claim like that I would love to see a car with such a motor in it laying down appropriate numbers. That's more than my WELL DONE 13 to 1 W5 motor made with much bigger roller, good ring pack and very good assembly. That went 135@3350 pounds..... Not close to 670.
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69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4 1.41 best 60 foot 6.60 at 103.90 1/8
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Re: head recommendation for 360/426 stroker
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09/20/14 11:20 AM
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The Hughes heads are the CNC big mouth heads, 225 port volume that flow 320, cost of heads are 3200 plus their rocker gear your at 4k, this is before any spring upgrade for solid roller.. The Indy 360-1 from Indy is around 2k, the Cnc 245 is an extra 1k plus t&d rockers $1k puts it around $4k.. From what research I've done the last day or so. the Indys may need a little more attention.. Leaking issues, cracking. Etc.. Looking for 650 ish horsepower to put Scamp in low 10 class.
If you can run high compression, our ported eddy heads will make more than 650HP. Typically, 13:1, our heads, cam in the 260's @.050 and correct supporting equipment will get 670's regularly... Brian
That sounds SUPER optimistic with Eddie heads. Over 670 horse? So that means 3300 pound cars are running 9.70 and 9.80's with them at 136/137 mph. Would love to see such a build and the on track results. I know your a great guy and builder Brian. But if your going to make an outlandish. claim like that I would love to see a car with such a motor in it laying down appropriate numbers. That's more than my WELL DONE 13 to 1 W5 motor made with much bigger roller, good ring pack and very good assembly. That went [Email]135@3350[/Email] pounds..... Not close to 670.
While I don't know Brian's capability first hand I've made 627 hp from a MCH CNC eddy head with 11:1 and a 640 lift roller.
I think there could be more on the table with more compression and an appropriate cam change.
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