Re: How to bring back original paint?
[Re: B5TA]
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08/24/14 04:02 PM
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What would be the best way to try and bring alive my original paint on my Challenger. It's a '70 B5 blue with original stripes & numbers on the front fenders, also original paint on the hood and spoiler? Kev
There's many ways to do this, this is how I do it.
One is a rubbing compound and then use the polish. I use a orbital polisher with cotten covers. Then I have a slow speed polisher with 2 different foam pads. I give the cotton orbiter polisher to anyone because you can't wreck the paint with it. Anyone can do it imo. there's not much chance of burning through the paint with a orbital polisher. It's very effective, we have done like 4 large trucks this spring with enamel paint and they look like new after 10 years or more on a couple. Using just cotton buffing pads, my wife sews them up for us out of old bath towels. Wash em them once or twice and then throw them away.
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Re: How to bring back original paint?
[Re: 2000ex]
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08/25/14 01:32 AM
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The msds says meguire’s #7 is composed of Light distillate 10-20%, Diatomaceous Earth 4-8%, Hydrotreated Distillate 5-10% Glycerine 1-5% 43% max listed ingredients the balance is likely inert (water). I know nothing in that composition that will penetrate acrylic paints. Rather the distillates are there to dissolve oils and old wax, the DE is like clay and is a very mild abrasive, the hydro distillate is basically paint thinner same purpose as the light distillate and glycerin gives the ingredients the abilty to stay combined and offers some body to the mix. Once an old car’s paint is clean (wash with detergent, clean it with meguire’s #7, or any other solvent that cuts grease and oil), start polishing and finish with wax. We’re on the same page, just different books.
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Re: How to bring back original paint?
[Re: srt]
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08/25/14 05:36 AM
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The number 1 step in all this, is after throughly washing the car with a good car washing soap(not dish washing) is to take a high quality 'detail clay' product with a good final finish like lubricator and to go over the whole car.. This will remove the many years of abusive atmospheric fall out and much of the residual dead and deteriorated paint. I happen to use Pinnacle's clay along with a product like Griot's Speed Shine as a lubricator. There are many excellent products and some not as good.
An option to claying that I forgot to mention when I posted this earlier, is the so called autoscrub products from companies such as Nanoskin. They work very well, are somewhat faster than claying and do an excellent job, albeit more expensive initially than clay but can save money in the long haul and are washable, whereas clay if you drop it on the floor you can kiss it goodby. The products come as towels, wash mitts and other formats. I've experimented with for over a year and suspect will replace clay for many of its fans.
Only when the rub of your hand(some recommend putting a wrap of Saran Rap around it ) and drag your hand across the body and it feels completely smooth, only then go to the next step using a foam pad on a quality orbital buffer,,,the best that you can afford. There are also microfiber buffing pad that are gaining popularity.
Wool pads are still used by many professionals but more in the body shop painting industry and more than likely for heavy duty post painting polishing and with rotary buffers. Not for rookies.
It is a lifetime investment,,,I use a Flex 3401 at over 300 bucks,,,also have quality high speed rotary buffers,,,but not for rookies or the faint of heart. There are ok, get the job done orbitals that sell for 150 bucks or so. Somewhat as Snap On verses Harbor Freight. You will never regret buying the best however,,,put it on your Xmas wish list.
Then you must choose the correct polish(s) to do the job. This gets complicated, but what it comes down to is how bad is the finish, how much paint is left, and what you want your final effort to look like.
Somewhat as with the IRS and the government in their efforts to extort your monies and call it collecting taxes. Gaining the most amount of feathers from the goose with the least amount of squawking.
Autogeek.net and others have numerous videos on polishing, as well as uncountable u tube's.
However I again emphasize you must start with the claying,,,one of the great discoveries in car detailing. For 25 years I have never polished or waxed my cars without this critical first step.
By the way,,,30 and 40 year old paint factory paint jobs are pretty miserable,,,don't expect a first rate custom 2 stage modern finish no matter what you do to bring it back,,but often you can bring them back to their original glory.
Last edited by Sxrxrnr; 08/25/14 10:12 PM.
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Re: How to bring back original paint?
[Re: AdamR]
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08/25/14 10:52 AM
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3M Hand Glaze will make the paint look great...I'd avoid decals...but works very differently than waxes or polishes. Glaze doesn't "feed" paint. Once paint is dry...it's not going to take on any "nutrients". Glaze stays wet on the surface and makes it shine as well as hiding imperfections. Problem is, a couple washes and it's gone. I'd also avoid anything abrasive until I tried less invasive methods. Turtle Wax makes a product called Colorback that's not abrasive. While I prefer Duragloss, Zaino or Klasse...this works very well for oxidized, orignal paint. This is a van that we went over for a friend. http://mattmorrisresto.com/RoyVan.JPGIf indeed it's determined that you need to compound or polish, then start at the least aggresive side. Meguairs makes a Dual Action Cleaner Polish that may fit the bill.
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Re: How to bring back original paint?
[Re: 1cuda]
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08/26/14 12:06 AM
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any pics of the paint to see what we are dealing with? all the best frank
agreed...without pics of the actual project this thread is guesswork.
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Re: How to bring back original paint?
[Re: Pacnorthcuda]
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08/27/14 11:53 AM
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All I can tell you is my buddy used Starbrite and a rag and took a lemon twist hemicuda from totally gone paint to like new. We knew for a fact it was going to have to be repainted. It was total white chalk. And then it looked new.
2011 Drag Pak Challenger
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Re: How to bring back original paint?
[Re: rickseeman]
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08/27/14 12:20 PM
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All I can tell you is my buddy used Starbrite and a rag and took a lemon twist hemicuda from totally gone paint to like new. We knew for a fact it was going to have to be repainted. It was total white chalk. And then it looked new.
Do you know which one??
http://www.starbrite.com/category/appearance-maintenance-3
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