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Re: Are COMP cams junk?
[Re: Cab_Burge]
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08/25/14 09:41 AM
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Life used to be so simple.
You called Iskendarian and talked to Ed...
Commando1, that's a great statement. Where did the good ol' days go! By the way, where did Ed go?
he retired some time ago, his two sons, Ron and Richard run the business now  Thay haven't done much research and develoment in a lot of years on thier cams    in todays world of racing if your not going forward your going backwards 
I think that is only true in the world of 50 year old Mopar stuff.
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Re: Are COMP cams junk?
[Re: BSB67]
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08/25/14 09:59 AM
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Life used to be so simple.
You called Iskendarian and talked to Ed...
Commando1, that's a great statement. Where did the good ol' days go! By the way, where did Ed go?
he retired some time ago, his two sons, Ron and Richard run the business now Thay haven't done much research and develoment in a lot of years on thier cams in todays world of racing if your not going forward your going backwards
I think that is only true in the world of 50 year old Mopar stuff.
a lot of places still have Ed.unfortunatly its Mr.ED.
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Re: Are COMP cams junk?
[Re: BSB67]
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08/25/14 10:43 AM
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Life used to be so simple.
You called Iskendarian and talked to Ed...
Commando1, that's a great statement. Where did the good ol' days go! By the way, where did Ed go?
he retired some time ago, his two sons, Ron and Richard run the business now Thay haven't done much research and develoment in a lot of years on thier cams in todays world of racing if your not going forward your going backwards
I think that is only true in the world of 50 year old Mopar stuff.
In some ways, just some, that most people won't understand is, the 50 year ways worked best.
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Re: Are COMP cams junk?
[Re: Scott Carl]
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08/26/14 02:17 PM
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I need to quit reading these "cam horror story" posts until I break mine in  I have the XE256H-10 for my 318 build. I bought it too long ago and due to life getting in the way still haven't fired it up. Is there any recourse for a failed cam after the warranty period has passed even if it hasn't been run? I understand that most of the cam failures are the more radical grinds than mine. True?(Its supposed to be what would be like stock for a 340 or 360(?))
Scott
I doubt you'll get any satisfaction now , check and make sure the lifters spin , break it in with old stock springs then switch to the required springs after break in.
It's not usually the cam it's the lifters , when 1 of the few remaining flat tappet lifter makers filed chapter 11 the company that cam in and sold off assets flooded the market with bad lifters was the story I heard.
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Re: Are COMP cams junk?
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08/26/14 11:52 PM
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No they don't make junk cams, I was just in Comp Cams today making a sales call on them and working with the engineers there with cam grinding wheels.
Comp Cams didn't become a leader in the cam industry by putting out junk cams. They are well advanced with superabrasive high speed CBN abrasives in CNC machining cells and offer top quality cams. They do all forms of racing and they take care of the highest quality race teams across the country and world wide. Bad lifters and the untreated shelf oils contributed to the fail cams.
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What about comp lifters? Bought my cam, lifters and springs as a set from Summit but all came in "Comp" packaging.
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Re: Are COMP cams junk?
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08/27/14 12:30 AM
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Ive never had an issue with a comp solid, only issue was a Mopar purpleshaft from the 90-s where the very rough cast cam core started to flake off on the edges, worse then killing a lobe in the end.
So basically it 'flake off and died" ???
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Re: Are COMP cams junk?
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08/27/14 12:33 PM
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Actually the debris did not come off the lobe but more off the base circle and its just a whacked cam. I just took pics if you want them I can email as I don't want to go off topic here.
Im I just getting old or what? Too much noise from a cam/lifters?
Nothing sounds sweeter then a good solid flat tappet setup, as well as some of the hydro setups.
I got to ask,are the noise complainers in there 30-s?
When you pull up to a stoplight and you know its gonna be go time on green, that noise so many complain about is one factor one would quickly process. No noise and a lope meant hydro and more then not a easy run. The rhoads? lifters had a distinct sound and that meant hydro cam owner with dream.
A real flat solid flat tappet you could listen to the exhaust and if it was a stick car id just hope he spun a little and he would be smoked.
A high lift solid roller, one of two things. If its a good setup and he hooks, im done. If it was brought on a trailer its off. If its not dialed in, c ya.
If it sounded like a gm diesel with the loose pistons, another consideration.
I get in our newer suv and start it and I have to ask myself is it running?
If your stuck with a solid lifter cam by choice or class and are that worried, it doesn't cost that much more to have the solid FT lobes ground on a roller core, gee guess who does it? Comps cams.
Ive had great results with most comp products, and not with some. I do not know who does there pushrods or at one point there lifters.
They could not a good set of pushrods to me until the 3rd try. Multiple issues with the first two sets.
The edm lifters had the edm hole vary and one had what looked like a hole but it wasn't all the way through.
Now every order I get direct from comp says re-check all parts! As I will send them back in a heartbeat. They expect to get paid so I expect good quality parts.
I actually had a guy pull in the lot with a pinto on a trailer to run my 440-6 RR. He got laughed at so much he didn't unload it and just left.
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Re: Are COMP cams junk?
[Re: Scott Carl]
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08/27/14 01:46 PM
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What about comp lifters? Bought my cam, lifters and springs as a set from Summit but all came in "Comp" packaging.
I don't believe any of the cam manufacturers make their own std hyd flat tappet lifters. Most are farmed out to places like Johnson and placed in the company boxes.
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Re: Are COMP cams junk?
[Re: Cab_Burge]
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08/27/14 11:58 PM
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What about comp lifters? Bought my cam, lifters and springs as a set from Summit but all came in "Comp" packaging.
I don't believe any of the cam manufacturers make their own std hyd flat tappet lifters. Most are farmed out to places like Johnson and placed in the company boxes.
 That be true  
Could be but in all manufacturing there are different quality levels and TEST standards. Back to the OP's question yeah,
They are all junk,if you buy the low end stuff. RE: Comp cams???? They are My first choice and have been for 30+ years. One failure in 500+ motors and they promptly took care of it. NUFF SAID!
BTW do not believe everything you read on internet forums.
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I made mine from a couple old pump to cam shafts. Cut the gears off and welded end to end.
