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Re: Cylinder Bores
[Re: jeebis44]
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08/22/14 02:52 PM
08/22/14 02:52 PM
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It's done all the time; just be sure to wrap the rod journals to keep swarf out.
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Re: Cylinder Bores
[Re: jeebis44]
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08/22/14 04:23 PM
08/22/14 04:23 PM
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Is it possible to clean up / deglaze the cylinder bores with the heads off and the lower end still installed? Looking at doing a top-end rebuild on a tired 318 and don't want to take the engine out if I can avoid it.
Sounds like you want to leave the pistons and rods in ??? If so the answer is NO ...
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Re: Cylinder Bores
[Re: jeebis44]
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08/22/14 10:14 PM
08/22/14 10:14 PM
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RapidRobert
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Remove SOME of the ridge with CAREFULL use of a ridge reamer (if needed). Pull dont push the cutter around the bore and changing your body position often so you are evenly pulling the cutter around the bore. Keep the tool flush with the deck (a helper is nice). It does not cut the ridge ID perfectly so do not go to flush at any point as you will likely be past the ridge/into the wall at another point. Stop & check often. Prep the bores with a brush research mfgr dingleberry flex hone with a 320 grit. get some plasma moly file fit rings. As Kunkel said protect the journals with some masking tape. Get each journal at BDC. You can soap and water scrub the bores with a minimal amount of liquid & keep it out of unwanted areas with some care & soap and water is the best way to get microscopic grit out of bored/honed cyl walls which will destroy a new ring job. Read "breakin secrets" at www.mototuneusa.com
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Re: Cylinder Bores
[Re: MLR426]
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08/25/14 12:53 PM
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NO, and also the use of a ridge reamer will sometimes kill a block if not used right.
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Re: Cylinder Bores
[Re: Commando1]
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08/25/14 12:54 PM
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Re: Cylinder Bores
[Re: jeebis44]
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08/25/14 01:25 PM
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Is it possible to clean up / deglaze the cylinder bores with the heads off and the lower end still installed? Looking at doing a top-end rebuild on a tired 318 and don't want to take the engine out if I can avoid it.
You will have to clarify "lower end still installed"
If you mean leave the pistons and rods in it, the answer would be no as it would be pointless.
You can however drop the pan and remove the rods and pistons and then hone it and install new rings. For this you want to use plain vanilla cast rings as they will be more forgiving of bores that will obviously not be perfectly round. You can even roll new main bearings in with the rods out of it.
All that being said, unless you have no way of lifting the engine out, by the time you get enough stuff unhooked and out of the way so you can get the engine up to get the pan off and get at the rods, you're about 80% of the way to having it on the bench.
Unless it is in a Sweptline D100 or bigger truck...
Kevin
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