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Re: cool sunroof hemi 71 charger r/t in-progress pics [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1656769
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Exactly: Back then the price of the Hemi itself strained the budget of most buyers. Thats why a lot of Hemi cars were pretty bare except for the big Kahuna under the hood. Then there's the extra weight of those options.
That's just why I am surprised there are so many of them.

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Well, in 1971 you could only get the Hemi in a convertible if you bought a 71 Hemi 'Cuda.

And no B-body convertibles at all in 1971. No Hemi or Six Pack Challenger convertibles in 1971.

71 Charger R/T's were expensive upscale mid sized cars. They offered a TON of options with those cars. I'm thinking the few guys that had the money to pay the big bucks for the hemi in 1971 had extra bucks. Hemi sales were really down in 1971 and economy was down too. The buying audience is more narrowed down to die hards and well funded buyers. Not people that could barely afford the hemi.

Here's the 71 EV2 hemi Charger Super Bee with bench seat and power windows at Spring Fling 2012

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Re: cool sunroof hemi 71 charger r/t in-progress pics [Re: autoxcuda] #1656770
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That's one rare piece...

'71 4-speed Hemi 'Bee w/sunroof...

(Hideaway Headlights???)...


And I believe there was only one '71 Hemi RR w/sunroof...

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That's one rare piece...

'71 4-speed Hemi 'Bee w/sunroof...

(Hideaway Headlights???)...


And I believe there was only one '71 Hemi RR w/sunroof...




Yes, Hideaways.

Also, remember that not all hemi cars were sold in US and Canada. These were Super Cars and had a global recognition. And not just France either. The 4sp Hemi Charger R/T sunroof xx29 is working on is an export car that will not pop up on any production list I believe?

I just heard of an export Hemi 71 'Cuda hardtop that is optioned beast of breed level.



Hideaways on the 71 Super Bee next to a pretty darn cool Hemi Challenger at Spring Fling 2012.

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Re: cool sunroof hemi 71 charger r/t in-progress pics [Re: autoxcuda] #1656772
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I believe another factor is that halfway through the year everyone knew there would not be any 72 Hemis so perhaps a few got really optioned by buyers that knew this was the last kick at the cat. Still though it was hard for people back then to justify loaded New Yorker or maybe bottom line Imperial money on a midsize car. Back then if you paid a lot of money you expected a large luxury car.

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I believe another factor is that halfway through the year everyone knew there would not be any 72 Hemis so perhaps a few got really optioned by buyers that knew this was the last kick at the cat. Still though it was hard for people back then to justify loaded New Yorker or maybe bottom line Imperial money on a midsize car. Back then if you paid a lot of money you expected a large luxury car.

Sheldon




It creates a sense of urgency. And sometimes that can get people stirred up to buy something they normally would not buy.

IIRC, A lot of these loaded cars were built after halfway through the model year.


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Re: cool sunroof hemi 71 charger r/t in-progress pics [Re: autoxcuda] #1656774
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Yes, Hideaways.






HS owned an EV-2, '71 4-speed Hemi 'Bee with hideaways once upon a time in these parts...

May have been my favorite out of all that has passed his way...


Made me turgid, it did...

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Yes, Hideaways.






HS owned an EV-2, '71 4-speed Hemi 'Bee with hideaways once upon a time in these parts...

May have been my favorite out of all that has passed his way...


Made me turgid, it did...




Same interior and top?

Same car?


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Re: cool sunroof hemi 71 charger r/t in-progress pics [Re: autoxcuda] #1656776
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No...

The one in these parts had a black top and interior...

No sunroof...

Last I heard, it's living a pampered life in Fla...

Re: cool sunroof hemi 71 charger r/t in-progress pics [Re: autoxcuda] #1656777
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Strato-Vent, houndstooth, AM/FM/cassette, power winders...

Is that a real R-code sunroof car???

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Yes. As with most sunroof cars, it's pretty loaded.

Hidden headlights too. I posted the tag.

This one is the automatic.



We have another one in the works that's even cooler...426HEMI, 4spd, 4.10 Dana, factory sunroof, export car, kilometer speedo, EV2/white interior/top, 1 of 1...




That's the NEXT one for Julius to restore after Peter, xx29, finishes the metal work on. I hear/see you have been doing some awesome work saving the original body on that one Peter.


This second sunroof 71HemiCharger is starting a new life after decades of neglect...!

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saw the 71 at Julius place before, it looks marvellous

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If you were to see the Buildsheet on most of these Hemi Sunroof cars
I would bet they were ordered by the dealer for stock & not sold orders. I could see a sales manager or dealer principal stepping up
to have a attention getting stock unit. Especially if they were told
of the discontinued Hemi for 72.

Re: cool sunroof hemi 71 charger r/t in-progress pics [Re: DRAG] #1656780
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All this talk of 1971 Charger/Super Bee Hemi Sunroof cars is making my head spin. So do I have this straight? There are 4 known?

1971 Charger R/T Hemi Orange/White/White 426/4-spd (Pete's project)

1971 Charger R/T Hemi Orange/White/White 426/Auto (Segal/Wellborn)

1971 Charger R/T Bright Red/Black/Black 426/Auto (This Post)

1971 Super Bee Hemi Orange/White/White 426/4-spd (SoCal car)

Thanks,
Scott.


1971 GY8 SSP 318/Auto
1971 GB7 SSP 318/Auto factory Sunroof
1972 EV2 SSP 400HP Loaded w factory Sunroof
Re: cool sunroof hemi 71 charger r/t in-progress pics [Re: sdweatherman] #1656781
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All this talk of 1971 Charger/Super Bee Hemi Sunroof cars is making my head spin. So do I have this straight? There are 4 known?

1971 Charger R/T Hemi Orange/White/White 426/4-spd (Pete's project)

1971 Charger R/T Hemi Orange/White/White 426/Auto (Segal/Wellborn)

1971 Charger R/T Bright Red/Black/Black 426/Auto (This Post)

1971 Super Bee Hemi Orange/White/White 426/4-spd (SoCal car)

Thanks,
Scott.




There's a white hemi super bee with a very questionable fender tag. Ramcharger mentioned that car in this post.

Ramcharger is that the car you remember (and others) as a kid in British Columbia? Does the current owner say the car was from canada? Does the tag show it?

Other hemi 71 sunroof chargers?... Looking at history of them coming to surface, good chance of a dead/crushed one(s) or one(s) still out there. Or at least a Plymouth one.


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Re: cool sunroof hemi 71 charger r/t in-progress pics [Re: autoxcuda] #1656782
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There's a white hemi super bee with a very questionable fender tag.


Yes, owner took liberties with that one! Shame if it was a true car and was re-bodied and tagged like that.

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Other hemi 71 sunroof chargers?... Looking at history of them coming to surface, good chance of a dead/crushed one(s) or one(s) still out there. Or at least a Plymouth one.


There are two 71 Plymouth Hemi sunroof cars that I know of. One is the Wellborn GTX that has been in the magazines in the past couple of years. There is a Roadrunner out there that is slated to be restored. GB5 426/4 spd sunroof car.

Interesting note also - I don't have any 1971 Charger/Super Bee Six-Pack sunroof cars on my list. I have a couple of V code 1971 Plymouths - The FJ6 GTX car that was at 2011 Carlisle, and another V-code sunroof car that I am not at liberty to discuss yet.
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1971 GB7 SSP 318/Auto factory Sunroof
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Correct, one 71 Sunroof Hemi GTX, and one Sunroof Hemi Road Runner. I thought there should have been 2 GTX's.


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There is a white 71 Hemi Superbee sunroof car in Illinois too. I didn't see this one get mentioned. It is usually at the Belividere IL show.

Here is a link to an article in Hemmings:

http://www.hemmings.com/mus/stories/2004/12/01/hmn_feature4.html

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There is a white 71 Hemi Superbee sunroof car in Illinois too. I didn't see this one get mentioned. It is usually at the Belividere IL show.

Here is a link to an article in Hemmings:

http://www.hemmings.com/mus/stories/2004/12/01/hmn_feature4.html





That the white one from Canada with a funky fender tag...


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Wow: That's a lot of sunroof Hemi's. I thought the only ones were the Siegal car and the rebody out of Canada.

Sheldon




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There is a white 71 Hemi Superbee sunroof car in Illinois too. I didn't see this one get mentioned. It is usually at the Belividere IL show.

Here is a link to an article in Hemmings:

http://www.hemmings.com/mus/stories/2004/12/01/hmn_feature4.html





That the white one from Canada with a funky fender tag...


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Wow: That's a lot of sunroof Hemi's. I thought the only ones were the Siegal car and the rebody out of Canada.

Sheldon






I haven't seen the fendertag on this white Bee, is it a St.Louis built car? Those had "funky" fendertags with option codes that you normally don't see on Lynch Road or L.A. built cars. Did they add options to this tag/car? Does someone know the car it was rebodied?

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There is a white 71 Hemi Superbee sunroof car in Illinois too. I didn't see this one get mentioned. It is usually at the Belividere IL show.

Here is a link to an article in Hemmings:

http://www.hemmings.com/mus/stories/2004/12/01/hmn_feature4.html





That the white one from Canada with a funky fender tag...


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Wow: That's a lot of sunroof Hemi's. I thought the only ones were the Siegal car and the rebody out of Canada.

Sheldon






I haven't seen the fendertag on this white Bee, is it a St.Louis built car? Those had "funky" fendertags with option codes that you normally don't see on Lynch Road or L.A. built cars. Did they add options to this tag/car? Does someone know the car it was rebodied?




Not sure if this is the same car that Runcharger saw in BC Canada. But here is talk of it and picture of the fender tag when you scroll down the page...

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...amp;Search=true


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Re: cool sunroof hemi 71 charger r/t in-progress pics [Re: xx29] #1656788
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In my OPINION, the dash VIN is FAKE & the car started life as a 383 Super BEE!!

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