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Re: ProMaxx Performance 440 heads [Re: Blown 68 R/T] #1654614
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I purchased mine from Hensley Racing . About two months ago. Makes great power. Had a medium Port job done. Ken Hensley said they flow better than similar aluminum heads. Rpm etc. Before any work. I have the full Info. Somewhere.
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440 30 over. After about 20 1/8 runs
Low 6.50s. I don't think it's realizing full potential yet. Made in USA.

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Re: ProMaxx Performance 440 heads [Re: Skynyrd] #1654615
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I believe in either this month or last months Mopar Muscle they did a 451 build and use the ProMax heads. I dont remember all the details but I think they flowed around 340 on the intakes ? I know the eng made very good hp (like 675 I think) and torque. I will try to look it up when I get a chance. Ron

Re: ProMaxx Performance 440 heads [Re: 383man] #1654616
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I believe in either this month or last months Mopar Muscle they did a 451 build and use the ProMax heads. I dont remember all the details but I think they flowed around 340 on the intakes ? I know the eng made very good hp (like 675 I think) and torque. I will try to look it up when I get a chance. Ron




They used ProComp heads (Victor copy?): http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/1411_randy_maliks_452ci_low_deck_wedge_mopar_engine/

Re: ProMaxx Performance 440 heads [Re: DGS] #1654617
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We recently did a maxed out full port on the Sidewinders ( same head I believe) and the results were right at 313 CFM intake on a Very correct , calibrated, stingy bench.
I am sure as time rolls on and more heads are whittled on that it will get better but honest, this is a street strip head not intended to go toe to toe with Victors, Indys etc
It is designed to be an Edelbrock killer and I guess you need a "Sidewinder" to shoot at Stealths?
So far---I have done several strong street engines with these heads --ZERO issues--I love the casting quality and the seats and guides are some of the best on the market --ports are more equal on these than other brands as well.
We have a regular old 440 flat top headed to the dyno soon with a set and a hyd cam so will report.
I love the quality for the $$ and feel like they are the best answer out there for a street/strip big block--way less than Edelbrocks and IMO better overall quality than everything else.
Want to race hard and go really fast? Sure, there are better choices but these heads will do anything an Edelbrock Performer head can for LESS $$ and at 313 CFM--Surprise many a bracket racer!!
Now...spending the loot it takes to get 313 CFM range--on a street head? Well... that is up to the individual, and a real race head may be better choice but...the heads are VERY capable of some Serious HP!
So far....I LOVE these heads!

Re: ProMaxx Performance 440 heads [Re: ] #1654618
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JEGS sells the Promaxx heads for the same coin as the RPMs. Sidewinders are considerably cheaper - starting at $850 including valves. Why are the Promaxx so much more than the Sidewinders if they are the same casting?

How much $$$ for the different porting stages for Sidewinder heads? Am I right assuming that all the porting was done by hand or is there already a CNC program?
I'm in the market for new heads and the Sidewinders seem to be the answer.

Thanks crabman for sharing your experience!

Re: ProMaxx Performance 440 heads [Re: DGS] #1654619
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What do out of the box standard port victors flow? I know they are designed for something different than sidewinders but how do they compare?

Re: ProMaxx Performance 440 heads [Re: DGS] #1654620
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Mine cost 300.00 for the mild hand Port.

Re: ProMaxx Performance 440 heads [Re: DGS] #1654621
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I believe in either this month or last months Mopar Muscle they did a 451 build and use the ProMax heads. I dont remember all the details but I think they flowed around 340 on the intakes ? I know the eng made very good hp (like 675 I think) and torque. I will try to look it up when I get a chance. Ron




They used ProComp heads (Victor copy?): http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/1411_randy_maliks_452ci_low_deck_wedge_mopar_engine/





Opps. Thanks for the correction. Sorry about that. Ron

Re: ProMaxx Performance 440 heads [Re: 383man] #1654622
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676 hp with a cast 440 crank and stock 400 rods!
Hows that for a cheap bottom end?

Even with the "short" 6.358" rods, R/S ratio still calcs out at 1.696.

The ProComp cylinder heads were done by MCH and were pretty trick, flow in the mid 300s. That's where the power came from.

R.

Re: ProMaxx Performance 440 heads [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #1654623
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What do out of the box standard port victors flow? I know they are designed for something different than sidewinders but how do they compare?



"It depends..." It's not just variance between castings, but also the last generation Victors that came out in late 2011 (IIRC) got a better designed chamber (in theory), but a more restrictive intake port that is nowhere near as good as the original version in terms of basic flow #s.

The Procomps in the article linked above are seriously NOT stock, between MCH's CNC MW porting, plus Malik's filling of the port floor, etc. I've got a Procomp I've used as a "crash test dummy" for some porting and with a good valve job and an otherwise stock casting flowed 310-315 IIRC. I've done some basic porting while keeping pretty close to a standard port entry (nowhere near MW size) and pushed them to 340+ at .700". There are some old threads on here from right about a year ago where I posted those results, FWIW.

Re: ProMaxx Performance 440 heads [Re: dogdays] #1654624
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Remember a few years ago, a new US cylinderhead company called Patriot? They staked out the lower edge of the smallblock chevy market, made a decent aluminum head which got a lot of press because it was good but inexpensive.

Somewhere along the way they were bought and renamed as ProMaxx.

As their sbc and sbf heads were pretty good, I would guess that their BBM heads would be good too.

R.


^^^^^^^^^^This. ProMaxx, formerly Patriot Performance is located in Rainbow City Alabama. Been there a long time and is not going away anytime soon. Before it was Patriot, it was Alabama Cylinder Head, which has been in business for decades. When they moved more focus towards performance, it was renamed Patriot by then owner and before that, long time employee, Marty Witt. The company was recently sold to another individual, who changed the name to ProMaxx, but all the same people, including Marty Witt, still work there. All machine operation are done in house in Alabama and they have some very nice and very up to date equipment, with guys who can run it.

Monte

Re: ProMaxx Performance 440 heads [Re: young guns 90s] #1654625
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Was seriously thinking about a pair of 440 Source Steaths but after reading about the Promaxx and Sidewinder heads now I got some more home work to do.Anyone ran these with the Edlebrock Victor intake yet?

Re: ProMaxx Performance 440 heads [Re: funnycar65] #1654626
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Was seriously thinking about a pair of 440 Source Steaths but after reading about the Promaxx and Sidewinder heads now I got some more home work to do.Anyone ran these with the Edlebrock Victor intake yet?




I'm testing several combinations currently with the Sidewinder heads. I hope to have some more results with a few intakes soon.
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Re: ProMaxx Performance 440 heads [Re: 383man] #1654627
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I believe in either this month or last months Mopar Muscle they did a 451 build and use the ProMax heads. I dont remember all the details but I think they flowed around 340 on the intakes ? I know the eng made very good hp (like 675 I think) and torque. I will try to look it up when I get a chance. Ron




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Re: ProMaxx Performance 440 heads [Re: dogdays] #1654628
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676 hp with a cast 440 crank and stock 400 rods!
Hows that for a cheap bottom end?

Even with the "short" 6.358" rods, R/S ratio still calcs out at 1.696.

The ProComp cylinder heads were done by MCH and were pretty trick, flow in the mid 300s. That's where the power came from.

R.




Yeah Randy's intake gaskets were a little over the limit in thickness. It was fun sanding them down in the 9th hour (with Wesley Roberson over my shoulder) and bolting the intake on within a few seconds 'till disqualification. Randy's Pro-comps did well however his engine was really really low-buck and didn't deserve to score last that year. My Pro-Comps were heavily customized and the results were good. J.Rob


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Re: ProMaxx Performance 440 heads [Re: RAMM] #1654629
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Re: ProMaxx Performance 440 heads [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1654630
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Re: ProMaxx Performance 440 heads [Re: RAMM] #1654631
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Why do most mfgrs of aluminum heads have the ends milled flat and polished? Is this to have a clear and readable logo?


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Re: ProMaxx Performance 440 heads [Re: 2boltmain] #1654632
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Jegs has these heads ON SALE today.

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I may have to try a set at those prices!!!

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Re: ProMaxx Performance 440 heads [Re: 69dart] #1654633
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Does anyone know if the pushrod clearance is any better on these than the 440Source Heads? We had several hours of grinding to get the pushrods to clear on my 383.


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