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Re: Wheel Stud Spinning Can't Get Nut Off [Re: burdar] #1651753
07/28/14 06:01 PM
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Is the rear end an 8 3/4? If not, can you just pull the axle?




How would you gain access to the five bolt axle flange with the wheel and rotor in front of it ?

Re: Wheel Stud Spinning Can't Get Nut Off [Re: formula_s] #1651754
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Die Grinder time, with a carbide bit.
One of these, or similar tool.


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Re: Wheel Stud Spinning Can't Get Nut Off [Re: Crazy68Dart] #1651755
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Put 2 other nuts loose on opposite the bad one and lower some of the weight of the car down on it to pin the stud tight.

Re: Wheel Stud Spinning Can't Get Nut Off [Re: formula_s] #1651756
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Is the rear end an 8 3/4? If not, can you just pull the axle?




How would you gain access to the five bolt axle flange with the wheel and rotor in front of it ?




simple...you need to REMOVE the wheel....and that's where we are stuck

Re: Wheel Stud Spinning Can't Get Nut Off [Re: terzmo] #1651757
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He said it had disc brakes, I wonder if there is any clearance to maybe do something like putting a welding rod in to give it a little tack weld?

Re: Wheel Stud Spinning Can't Get Nut Off [Re: moparborn] #1651758
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Put 2 other nuts loose on opposite the bad one and lower some of the weight of the car down on it to pin the stud tight.






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Re: Wheel Stud Spinning Can't Get Nut Off [Re: Telvis] #1651759
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Put 2 other nuts loose on opposite the bad one and lower some of the weight of the car down on it to pin the stud tight.












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Re: Wheel Stud Spinning Can't Get Nut Off [Re: roe] #1651760
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"IF" it just not seated and there are still splines left, try welding a length of threaded rod on the nut and using a slide hammer try and seat the stud? Put two nuts on the threaded rod first just in case it works so you can jam them together to turn off the nut. If it's all stripped and/or wallowed out this won't work though.
Just a thought?

Re: Wheel Stud Spinning Can't Get Nut Off [Re: brads70] #1651761
07/28/14 10:19 PM
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Thanks for all the ideas. However, still nothing.

I just attempted a slide hammer with a steel bar across the two spokes spanning the nut. Hoping to pull the stud into the flange. No go. Didn't want to beat on it to hard afraid of damaging the wheel. Already started to curl the edge a little. Nothing a file and some polishing won't fix.

The issue with putting the weight of the car on it is that the nut is on so far that it is into the taper of the wheel. So it is not loading the stud, but rather the nut on the taper. Regardless, I tried this, and still no go. Effing thing.

Bout all I can see working is drilling it out. Have to figure out a way to make a good pilot into that key nut, and pray that I don't bust the bit off.

Either that or take a sledge to the car and call the scrap company. Sorry, bad day.


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Re: Wheel Stud Spinning Can't Get Nut Off [Re: Crazy68Dart] #1651762
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drill it..I did it on my sons srt-4

Re: Wheel Stud Spinning Can't Get Nut Off [Re: AARCONV] #1651763
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Have you tried bouncing any ideas off anybody at tire store? I would imagine someone has run across this problem before and had a pretty good method of solving his problem without damaging the wheel - specially with all the aftermarket/alloy wheels on cars these days...

Good luck with it.

On mine, I was able to put 3/4" box end wrench (on which I had to remove half of the wrench to get it into the well of the wheel itself between the spokes [AR 200S wheel]) on the nut to keep it from spinning. Then starting drilling (and grinding) (and taking time off for sanity). 3 days later it was off.

Re: Wheel Stud Spinning Can't Get Nut Off [Re: MoparMarq] #1651764
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How would you gain access to the five bolt axle flange with the wheel and rotor in front of it ?






Read what I wrote...

I said if it's NOT an 8 3/4, can you remove the axle?

Re: Wheel Stud Spinning Can't Get Nut Off [Re: burdar] #1651765
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Most of the time you can take a punch and drive the middle nub of those lock nuts all the way through into the space between the top of the stud and the top of the nut. That would let you start a drill with less trouble. We used to do that at used car lots so you could use a 3/8 or 1/2" extension as a key to remove the lock nut if you didn't have a key.

Re: Wheel Stud Spinning Can't Get Nut Off [Re: hemi71x] #1651766
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Die Grinder time, with a carbide bit.
One of these, or similar tool.



I make carbide burrs in all shapes sizes and different cuts. Let me know what size shank you need and I'll make you up a cutter.

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Re: Wheel Stud Spinning Can't Get Nut Off [Re: Pynzo] #1651767
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dry ice and a punch works great too


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Re: Wheel Stud Spinning Can't Get Nut Off [Re: azmopar] #1651768
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Tack weld a nut to the lugnut or cut it off carefully and replace.

I recently had a similar situation where I used a cutoff wheel on my grinder and cut through the center of the lugnut and lug stud. The stud is easy enough to replace. You may not have as much room with your wheels as I did.


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Re: Wheel Stud Spinning Can't Get Nut Off [Re: Soopernaut] #1651769
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Put a couple lugs back on semi-loose. Lower the wheel to touch the ground and to put pressure on the stud to hold it. Try and put the loose stud at the 6 o'clock position. even though the wheel may be hub centric it should put enough pressure on it to hold it. be careful and use an impact to zip the lug off.

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Re: Wheel Stud Spinning Can't Get Nut Off [Re: Telvis] #1651770
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Put 2 other nuts loose on opposite the bad one and lower some of the weight of the car down on it to pin the stud tight.









This and the impact should be enough, to get this finger tight nut off.

Re: Wheel Stud Spinning Can't Get Nut Off [Re: Sport440] #1651771
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So many people are suggesting things he has already tried. read the thread before you post.

Knock the center out of the locking lug, and drill out the stud. I have removed several screwed up lug nuts this way. Start with a new 1/8" bit at the center of the stud and drill all the way through the stud. Then step up to 1/4" drill bit, again drilling all the way through, then use a 3/8" bit, drill all the way through. If your still centered on the stud, hit it with a 7/16 or a 1/2" drill bit. At some point, the nut will fall off.

When you get it apart, be sure to check the condition of the other studs, if 1 failed, the others can't be much better. Fix the problem before you get to do this with all the lug nuts. Gene

Re: Wheel Stud Spinning Can't Get Nut Off [Re: poorboy] #1651772
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So many people are suggesting things he has already tried. read the thread before you post.

I read where he said he tried that. But, if not done correctly you can have a failed attempt.

This nut was finger tight, if done correctly the suggested fix should work easily. Just trying to emphasize that.

68Dart, Im pretty good at stuff like this, PM me and I will help you with it. Im in canton, myself by the HOF

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