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Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing [Re: MoparforLife] #1650351
07/24/14 09:54 PM
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I buy cars in St. Louis which is about 2 hours away with a mix of flat and rolling hills. I use a small 16' tandem trailer. I have probably pulled this trailer with a couple of dozen different trucks, mostly Dodges.

The 4.7 won't cut it. It will drop out of OD on any small hill or with a little head wind. And that is when the trailer is empty.

At 287 cubic inch, I consider the 2.7 a lite duty engine in full sized trucks.



You don't tow in OD.




Did you miss the part about the trailer being EMPTY?

I wouldn't own a truck that couldn't pull a small empty trailer on OD. I don't even consider that "towing". But thanks for your opinion.


Nothing there stating empty. By the way what is a 2.7???? PS I wouldn't tow anything bigger than a small utility trailer or light boat without it being locked out of OD, Maybe that is why I have never hurt an engine or transmission.





2.7 instead of 4.7 was a brain fart. Good that you caught that. Maybe the bold will help clear you up on the other part.

Anyway, most who have pulled much seem to agree that the 4.7 is not the best choice.


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Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing [Re: DaveRS23] #1650352
07/25/14 12:23 PM
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I buy cars in St. Louis which is about 2 hours away with a mix of flat and rolling hills. I use a small 16' tandem trailer. I have probably pulled this trailer with a couple of dozen different trucks, mostly Dodges.

The 4.7 won't cut it. It will drop out of OD on any small hill or with a little head wind. And that is when the trailer is empty.

At 287 cubic inch, I consider the 2.7 a lite duty engine in full sized trucks.



You don't tow in OD.




Did you miss the part about the trailer being EMPTY?

I wouldn't own a truck that couldn't pull a small empty trailer on OD. I don't even consider that "towing". But thanks for your opinion.


Nothing there stating empty. By the way what is a 2.7???? PS I wouldn't tow anything bigger than a small utility trailer or light boat without it being locked out of OD, Maybe that is why I have never hurt an engine or transmission.





2.7 instead of 4.7 was a brain fart. Good that you caught that. Maybe the bold will help clear you up on the other part.

Anyway, most who have pulled much seem to agree that the 4.7 is not the best choice.


May not be the best choice (I agree) but can be made work with gearing, proper weight distribution, and brake set up, and driving accordingly. I was brought up in the day when a person pulled with what was available. We hauled cattle to market in the back of a 48 Ford half ton if the bigger truck 1 1/2 or 2 ton truck was not available, people pulled big airstream type campers with a car, hauled 300 bushel of 60 pound per bushel wheat to market in the box on a 1 1/2 ton truck. People didn't have a special vehicle for everything and the trucks were users not Sunday go to meeting vehicles. Saw this at a trail ride last fall.

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing [Re: moparmikethree] #1650353
07/25/14 12:39 PM
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Pay close attention to the location of those replying and relate that to the area you may be towing in.

If it requires changes in tires and gears to make a 4.7 work, the expense of doing that could be offset by just getting a bigger engine.

Also, the frequency of the towing is a factor too.

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing [Re: TC@HP2] #1650354
07/25/14 10:43 PM
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I would tow in OD with the 4.7 on flat ground. At a steady speed it should not be hunting through gears. Hilly or curvy is a different story. Better yet get the stick shift and not worry about the auto problems.

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #1650355
07/26/14 04:52 AM
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I have a '96 2500 ClubCab 8.0, what do you want to hook on it? I have only had it up to 19.5K GCVW so far.
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Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing [Re: shinnery] #1650356
07/26/14 09:19 AM
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I owned a 4.7 Durango 2WD and towed my 67 Barracuda lots with it. 4.7 is a overhead cam motor. My engine had problems at 142,000. If you plan on keeping the truck a long time, don't buy a 4.7. My friend who is a mechanic won't work on 4.7 motors. I loved that Durango until I had a cracked head ands had to junk it because it would be at least $2000 to replace a cracked head.

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing [Re: prochargedhemi] #1650357
07/26/14 10:20 AM
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I wouldn't recommend the 4.7 period. to many engine issues.




Odd, we have a 4.7 '02 Dak quad 4x4 at work. Has towed many a scissor lift many a mile with 285K on the odometer. Never had an issue besides a warped exhaust manifold.

We have many more 4.7 work trucks in the fleet, never had any issues with them.

The scissor lift and trailer weighed close to 4000 lbs together. Not as much as a car, but not light. I would not hesitate to use the 4.7 for OCCASIONAL towing. But, I prefer my CTD.

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing [Re: FuryBoy] #1650358
07/26/14 11:27 AM
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Ford switched entirely to OHC motors in the 90s. Why did Dodge bring in just one OHC engine but keep the more powerful gas engines pushrod? Where they feeling out the waters to see if they should go full bore OHC like Ford?


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Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing [Re: 2boltmain] #1650359
07/27/14 02:13 AM
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Ford switched entirely to OHC motors in the 90s. Why did Dodge bring in just one OHC engine but keep the more powerful gas engines pushrod? Where they feeling out the waters to see if they should go full bore OHC like Ford?




Pushrod is cheaper. The ohc was for mpg. On the newer ones they were able to get what they want out of a pushrod engine.

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing [Re: 451Mopar] #1650360
07/27/14 03:25 AM
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I had a 2000 Ram 4.7L and it was ok unloaded, but even unloaded it was lucky to get 14 MPG. With a open car trailer, it would tow it, but the transmission would search for a gear quite a bit when going up hill. I wouldn't recommend the 4.7 for towing. If you can't get a diesel, at least get the 5.7L Hemi




Curious...Are you sure it was a 2000 model? I thought the 4.7 was first installed in the full size trucks for the new body style in 2002.

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