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Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO [Re: ksj] #1645192
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I am going to wait until the prices drop a d they increase the horsepower. I'm sure it will only go up.

Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO [Re: SRT6776] #1645193
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This sure opens up a can of worms for NHRA..

So you take your factory stock street car to the test n tune at your local track only to get bounced..

10.99 and quicker:

1. Aftermarket balancer
2. Aftermarket Axles
3. Transmission Shield
4. Roll Bar
5. 16.1 3" driver restraint (seat belts)
6. 3.2A/1 Jacket
7. Helmet


That's just my quick list..

EDIT: I did find that NHRA lifted the roll bar deal from 2008 and up factory stock "UNALTERED" vehicles..

So, if you put drag radials on, you have just altered the car..
I wonder how strict tech will be on these cars..


Chris..




They better re-write their rules, lots of crazy fast stuff out there these days and they're only getting faster.

Example, next Camaro is going to be 800lbs~ lighter than the current one and likely have even more power.

Like they said in the one video, if you missed the first muscle car era, don't miss this one!




I thought they already had, I thought the NHRA had made exceptions for late model cars?

Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO [Re: 67Satty] #1645194
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The 2008 and newer no roll bar,SFI stuff etc is for the AAA sponsored street legal events is what I have heard.Test and tune only.This was a reply I received when I asked on another site.NHRA Needs to post a full explanation as to what events a 2008 and newer Hellcat,ZR1 Vette etc can compete in.
The NHRA “Street Legal Style” events do not include the regular competition programs at most tracks, such as the Summit Racing Series. Nor does it include many special events that still follow regular NHRA/IHRA safety rules, such as Drag Week.

Street Legal Style events are on-track alternatives to illegal street racing . . . a “gateway” series to get folks used to coming to the track. The Street Legal exception does not mean that a Hellcat owner can just bolt on slicks and show up at any track at any time and get to run 10.80s in any event without a legal roll bar, SFI vibration damper, SFI trans shield or bellhousing, etc.

Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO [Re: ksj] #1645195
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It depends on what track & who is putting on the race,what you can and can't run.I have said it before and will say it again NHRA tracks are not the only tracks out there to race at.Not a smart remark just the truth!


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Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO [Re: 67Satty] #1645196
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This sure opens up a can of worms for NHRA..

So you take your factory stock street car to the test n tune at your local track only to get bounced..

10.99 and quicker:

1. Aftermarket balancer
2. Aftermarket Axles
3. Transmission Shield
4. Roll Bar
5. 16.1 3" driver restraint (seat belts)
6. 3.2A/1 Jacket
7. Helmet


That's just my quick list..

EDIT: I did find that NHRA lifted the roll bar deal from 2008 and up factory stock "UNALTERED" vehicles..

So, if you put drag radials on, you have just altered the car..
I wonder how strict tech will be on these cars..


Chris..




They better re-write their rules, lots of crazy fast stuff out there these days and they're only getting faster.

Example, next Camaro is going to be 800lbs~ lighter than the current one and likely have even more power.

Like they said in the one video, if you missed the first muscle car era, don't miss this one!




I thought they already had, I thought the NHRA had made exceptions for late model cars?


until the first late model goes roof first into the wall, then the insurance companys will have a say.

Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1645197
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It depends on what track & who is putting on the race,what you can and can't run.I have said it before and will say it again NHRA tracks are not the only tracks out there to race at.Not a smart remark just the truth!



Agreed.Buddy has a supercharged Caddy that runs 10.50s.One track says he can race the other says NO.Bad thing is the Div 5 director wont give him an answer.Then again Rob Park sold out on the track he owned KCIR.

Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO [Re: ksj] #1645198
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It depends on what track & who is putting on the race,what you can and can't run.I have said it before and will say it again NHRA tracks are not the only tracks out there to race at.Not a smart remark just the truth!



Agreed.Buddy has a supercharged Caddy that runs 10.50s.One track says he can race the other says NO.Bad thing is the Div 5 director wont give him an answer.Then again Rob Park sold out on the track he owned KCIR.




I don't see the confusion here. That should not be allowed to run without the proper safety. There is no rule that even comes close to allowing that Caddy to run 10.50's as is.

There is a huge difference between a car that run's 10.8's from the factory and one that runs 12.'s from the factory and modded to run 10.8's.

Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO [Re: TheOtherDodge] #1645199
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I have a 14 Shelby GT500 and I have run 11.0's at over 133mph with a 2.0 60 foot time and have been warned 2 times at National Trail Raceway because of no rollbar.


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Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO [Re: FASTFISH420] #1645200
07/14/14 10:41 AM
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You all that think the Hellcat will have 59k stocker are nutz. A loaded SRT-8 is close to that.

Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1645201
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Its going to be track dependant on the ET cut off. This was filmed at my home track and from talking to the head starter and tech guys it seems they're going to view a stock car with some drag radials bolted on, still stock.

You could always argue that a modern 08+ car capable of sub 10-11's from the factory is probably safer than most racecars with a rollbar and harnesses.


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Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO [Re: Triple Threat] #1645202
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People what are you thinking Mopar is thinking about producing the HellCat Challenger that is great,but no we have to find problems with it.And it is not like that will be the only car out there capable of running those speeds Chevy already has Corvettes Caddy's & Camaro's & Ford has Mustang that will not just run that Fast but Faster and they are selling as fast as they hit the Dealership.It you don't want one then by all means do not buy one but don't ruin it so the rest of us who want & will buy one.Thanks in advance for taking the time to consider/understand what I tried so poorly to say!


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Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1645203
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Our local track has NHRA logos on the ir website and at the track and you can TnT anything and nobody comes around teching you. Probably the same in a race.

You could rock that thing all day there, just don't ferget to turn off the AC.

Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1645204
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People what are you thinking Mopar is thinking about producing the HellCat Challenger that is great,but no we have to find problems with it.And it is not like that will be the only car out there capable of running those speeds Chevy already has Corvettes Caddy's & Camaro's & Ford has Mustang that will not just run that Fast but Faster and they are selling as fast as they hit the Dealership.It you don't want one then by all means do not buy one but don't ruin it so the rest of us who want & will buy one.Thanks in advance for taking the time to consider/understand what I tried so poorly to say!



What factory GM or Ford runs that fast or faster off show room floor again? Just asking, not trying to start an argument.


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Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO [Re: ChrgrCuda] #1645205
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Both the ZR1 Corvette & Camaro and the Mustang will as well but not sure which one it is.My Calloway Corvette was suppose to be a 10.20-9.70 when delivered to Hendrix Chevy in NC. It now runs 9.38-9.42 in the 1/4 mile done about 3 weeks ago @ SGMSP.

PS I had company and did not get finish last night.I went to buy a Viper in NC and the owner said if it did not run 11.20's he would give me my $$$ back or I could wait to Saturday night before buying and we could go to the track and he would show me.While I was test driving it he told my friend the owner was selling it to buy this Special Corvette to make a long story short even after seeing it I still wanted the Viper but after driving it,I now own it.It come from Callaway with 790.92 RWH the shop that does our machine & dyno works Son-N-Law races n the 275 class so he knew the mods I needed to make and with a Cam,Pulley(SuperCharger)Head change and a $700.00 Tune & Chassis Dyno makes 1,017 RWH.And the 1 9.42 & 2 9.38 pass's were made at SGMSP with 3.42 rear gears and the Street Nitto NO5 12.5"Drag Radials through the full 3"exhaust with Kooks 1 7/8" headers that the Wife and I drove 135+ miles one way to get there.This Vette drives like a street car not a race-car its the LT4 package it has power everything A/C & Heater (LT1 is the basic Vette with the LT4 being the top of the line,the LT is the car package nothing to do with the LS3 engine) it runs smooth as my Lincoln Town Car @ 45 mph & in 6th gear @ 2,000 RPM runs 80 mph.
I see no reason if Mopar makes the HellCat Challenger with the same minor changes it won't pick up a Second and a Half and remain Streetable. Be forewarned I know all of you on here or either Racers or like Fast cars and if you drive one of these Super-Charged or Turbo-Charged Vettes you will buy it on the spot and not wait for Mopar to release the HellCat.

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Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1645206
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Calloway Corvette is not a factory offering. Never heard of any factory Mustang, Camaro, or Corvette run 10's straight from dealership. Just like a Hennessy Viper is not a factory offering from Dodge, is it faster? Of course, but again not a factory offering.


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Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1645208
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Both the ZR1 Corvette & Camaro and the Mustang will as well but not sure which one it is.My Calloway Corvette was suppose to be a 10.20-9.70 when delivered to Hendrix Chevy in NC. It now runs 9.38-9.42 in the 1/4 mile done about 3 weeks ago @ SGMSP.




That's not a factory production car. The Challenger Hellcat IS a 10 second factory production car.


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Our local track has NHRA logos on the ir website and at the track and you can TnT anything and nobody comes around teching you. Probably the same in a race.

You could rock that thing all day there, just don't ferget to turn off the AC.




True dat!

Mine ran 13.30 with 3 people in it, A/C and the seat coolers on.

I kicked everyone out and turned everything off and it went 12.70


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Mopar finally gives us the end all be all Chevy eating beast we all knew they could and now we have a bunch of Ralph Naders on here bitchin about rollbars.......


Mopar to the bone!!!
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Mopar finally gives us the end all be all Chevy eating beast we all knew they could and now we have a bunch of Ralph Naders on here bitchin about rollbars.......



Yep


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