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Which 72-93 truck should I buy? #1644245 07/08/14 09:37 PM 07/08/14 09:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,030 NH torredcuda OP super stock
torredcuda OP super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,030 NH	Ok guys, school me on these trucks. I`m fairly knowlegable with Mopar musclecars but even though I`ve had a few trucks I don`t know a lot of about them. I`ve had a `85 Ramcharger plow truck, a `97 2500 extra cab and my current `04 2500 quad cab but with a new baby here I need to sell the `04 so I have cash to buy a DD car with better gas mileage. Of course I still need a truck for plowing the driveway, dump runs and towing the cars around so I`m looking at `72-93`s undr $3000. I prefer the `70`s style but what are the pros and cons of each style, 4wd systems, axles etc. I`d also like an clubcab or even crew cab but I know those are kinda scarce - help! https://www.facebook.com/jeffrey.hunt.750/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Northeast-Mighty-Mopar-Club/365435766974452?ref=aymt_homepage_panel `72 Barracuda 340/4spd `70 road runner 383/auto `73 road runner 400/4spd `76 W100 clubcab

Re: Which 72-93 truck should I buy? [Re: torredcuda] #1644246 07/08/14 10:52 PM 07/08/14 10:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada R RUNCHARGER I Live Here
RUNCHARGER I Live Here R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada	4WD? You want an 80 and up. Sheldon

Re: Which 72-93 truck should I buy? [Re: torredcuda] #1644247 07/08/14 11:16 PM 07/08/14 11:16 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida rickstershemi master
rickstershemi master Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida	My 73 W100 was my favorite....bought it brand new 1973 318/727 long bed ..... need to scan a picture Rickster

Re: Which 72-93 truck should I buy? [Re: torredcuda] #1644248 07/08/14 11:52 PM 07/08/14 11:52 PM
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RODHALL master R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,930 Waynesboro PA 17268	88-93 would be my perfered years... here is why 1 88 start of the Cummins... 2 fuel injection on gas trucks. 3 NP241 on gas trucks NP205 on Cummins and 1 ton trucks... Body parts exchange on 81-93 trucks Less the 91-3 rad supports... 5 727 88 / A518 89up trans Cheep if needed rebuilds 6 Dana 60 fronts on CTD and most 1 tons... must have np205 gear drive transfer... 7 full door panels and headliners and trim, on most upgraded models.. * fuse box that don't melt or catch fire like on 76-80 trucks... 9 Not full time4x4... 72-80 trucks... I think I hit most of it...

Re: Which 72-93 truck should I buy? [Re: RODHALL] #1644249 07/09/14 12:53 AM 07/09/14 12:53 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,525 Freeport IL USA poorboy I Live Here
poorboy I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,525 Freeport IL USA	Around here, once the 94 & newer trucks started, anything older just about disappeared. There are a lot of 94+ 4x4 trucks around here in your price range, but almost nothing older the 94 in that price range. Gene

Re: Which 72-93 truck should I buy? [Re: poorboy] #1644250 07/09/14 01:03 AM 07/09/14 01:03 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 433 St.Clairsville Ohio EV2RUNNER mopar
EV2RUNNER mopar Joined: May 2004 Posts: 433 St.Clairsville Ohio	If you want the Older Body Style 72-80. I would shoot for a late 79-80 model. Pre Late 79 Build trucks have the NP203 Full Time Transfer Case, and the full time Dana 44 axle with the horrible wheel bearing design. The later Trucks have the NP205 or NP208 Part time transfer case with Lockout hubs on the front axle. The nice older ones around here are starting to bring top dollar, but I would say you may score a decent truck in your price range.

Re: Which 72-93 truck should I buy? [Re: RODHALL] #1644251 07/09/14 01:31 AM 07/09/14 01:31 AM
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BulletBob master B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,048 Back home in PA	Quote: 88-93 would be my perfered years... here is why 1 88 start of the Cummins... 2 fuel injection on gas trucks. 3 NP241 on gas trucks NP205 on Cummins and 1 ton trucks... Body parts exchange on 81-93 trucks Less the 91-3 rad supports... 5 727 88 / A518 89up trans Cheep if needed rebuilds 6 Dana 60 fronts on CTD and most 1 tons... must have np205 gear drive transfer... 7 full door panels and headliners and trim, on most upgraded models.. * fuse box that don't melt or catch fire like on 76-80 trucks... 9 Not full time4x4... 72-80 trucks... I think I hit most of it...

Re: Which 72-93 truck should I buy? [Re: RODHALL] #1644252 07/09/14 09:26 AM 07/09/14 09:26 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,030 NH torredcuda OP super stock
torredcuda OP super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,030 NH	Quote: 88-93 would be my perfered years... here is why 1 88 start of the Cummins... 2 fuel injection on gas trucks. 3 NP241 on gas trucks NP205 on Cummins and 1 ton trucks... Body parts exchange on 81-93 trucks Less the 91-3 rad supports... 5 727 88 / A518 89up trans Cheep if needed rebuilds 6 Dana 60 fronts on CTD and most 1 tons... must have np205 gear drive transfer... 7 full door panels and headliners and trim, on most upgraded models.. * fuse box that don't melt or catch fire like on 76-80 trucks... 9 Not full time4x4... 72-80 trucks... I think I hit most of it... I`m looking at 1/2 or preferably 3/4 ton but no 1 tons or Cummins so I guess my main concern for driveabilty would be the fulltime 4wd system. What exactly is the problem with the fulltime units and how hard it is to change over to a newer transfer case? Like I said 95% of my driving with it is local but I may do an occasional long haul to Lebanon Valley or even Carlisle which is 900 mile sround trip? https://www.facebook.com/jeffrey.hunt.750/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Northeast-Mighty-Mopar-Club/365435766974452?ref=aymt_homepage_panel `72 Barracuda 340/4spd `70 road runner 383/auto `73 road runner 400/4spd `76 W100 clubcab

Re: Which 72-93 truck should I buy? [Re: torredcuda] #1644253 07/09/14 12:07 PM 07/09/14 12:07 PM
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CTD5.9 super stock C Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 760 Canada	You need a front differential, a transfer case+linkage, then either a different transmission or at least the output shaft and tail section from a newer one. to swap over from full time. After that its just getting the driveshafts the right length. It's actually pretty easy if you have the parts, I've done it on a few trucks.

Re: Which 72-93 truck should I buy? [Re: CTD5.9] #1644254 07/09/14 01:31 PM 07/09/14 01:31 PM
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torredcuda OP super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,030 NH	Sounds like having a parts truck would be the ticket. https://www.facebook.com/jeffrey.hunt.750/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Northeast-Mighty-Mopar-Club/365435766974452?ref=aymt_homepage_panel `72 Barracuda 340/4spd `70 road runner 383/auto `73 road runner 400/4spd `76 W100 clubcab

Re: Which 72-93 truck should I buy? [Re: torredcuda] #1644255 07/09/14 01:38 PM 07/09/14 01:38 PM
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torredcuda OP super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,030 NH	The other option is a Ramcharger but not sure how good the short wheelbase is for towing? https://www.facebook.com/jeffrey.hunt.750/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Northeast-Mighty-Mopar-Club/365435766974452?ref=aymt_homepage_panel `72 Barracuda 340/4spd `70 road runner 383/auto `73 road runner 400/4spd `76 W100 clubcab

Re: Which 72-93 truck should I buy? [Re: RODHALL] #1644256 07/09/14 03:33 PM 07/09/14 03:33 PM
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Guitar Jones Paddle faster! I hear banjo music! G Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,622 in a cattle trailer down by th...	Quote: 88-93 would be my perfered years... here is why 1 88 start of the Cummins... 2 fuel injection on gas trucks. 3 NP241 on gas trucks NP205 on Cummins and 1 ton trucks... Body parts exchange on 81-93 trucks Less the 91-3 rad supports... 5 727 88 / A518 89up trans Cheep if needed rebuilds 6 Dana 60 fronts on CTD and most 1 tons... must have np205 gear drive transfer... 7 full door panels and headliners and trim, on most upgraded models.. * fuse box that don't melt or catch fire like on 76-80 trucks... 9 Not full time4x4... 72-80 trucks... I think I hit most of it... 89 was the first year for a Cummins and the 89 to 91.5's had a non lockup 727 for an automatic with a 3.07 gear. Which means they had Dana 61 and 71 diffs. 91.5 to 93 had a non lockup 518 for the auto and 3.54 gears. The manuals from 89 to 93 all had the Getrag 360 5 speed with either 3.54s or 4.10s. "Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind" '92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon! 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.

Re: Which 72-93 truck should I buy? [Re: torredcuda] #1644257 07/09/14 05:38 PM 07/09/14 05:38 PM
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3hundred I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 10,228 Colleyville	Quote: The other option is a Ramcharger but not sure how good the short wheelbase is for towing? It's sensitive to weight distribution, but get it right and it's golden. Pulled my '69 300 on a 2,700 lb. trailer from Los Angeles to Fort Worth with the wife's '93 Ramcharger, did great. Robert '68 Fury Convertible '69 300 Convertible '15 Durango 5.7 Hemi '16 300 S Hemi

Re: Which 72-93 truck should I buy? [Re: CTD5.9] #1644258 07/09/14 11:19 PM 07/09/14 11:19 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida rickstershemi master
rickstershemi master Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida	Quote: You need a front differential, a transfer case+linkage, then either a different transmission or at least the output shaft and tail section from a newer one. to swap over from full time. After that its just getting the driveshafts the right length. It's actually pretty easy if you have the parts, I've done it on a few trucks. Someone please define full-time transfer case for me...???? I know my 73 W100's transfer case had 2-Hi, N, 4-Hi, 4-Low and factory lock-out hubs....to me this would not be considered full time...???? I purchased this truck brand new in 1973 .... scratches head Rickster

Re: Which 72-93 truck should I buy? [Re: rickstershemi] #1644259 07/10/14 12:24 AM 07/10/14 12:24 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada R RUNCHARGER I Live Here
RUNCHARGER I Live Here R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada	Yours is a part time. The full time had a NP203 t-case and was always in 4wd, you could not unlock the front hubs as they spun all the time. Hiloc-Hi-N-Lo-Loloc. It had a chain in the T=case that wore out, small front wheel bearings that were ugly to change. Others may have different opinions but that is my thought on them. Your 73 is a tough truck too, it just has drums on the front rather than the discs on the 80 and up part timers. I really like the 72-80 body style so the 80 is a bit of a holy grail to me with it's great styling and Part time 4WD system. Nothing wrong with the 81 and up trucks either of course but I just like the early body styling more. Sheldon

Re: Which 72-93 truck should I buy? [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1644260 07/10/14 07:47 AM 07/10/14 07:47 AM
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shinnery super street Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,295 Hawley, Texas	I have a 74 W-100 ClubCab SWB and it is a divorced transfer case part-time 4x4. AFAIK all 73-74 W-100s were divorced xfer case. Have a short tailshaft 727 and a short driveshaft back to the transfer case (NP205). They also have manual locker hubs on the front Dana 44. 5x5.5 bolt pattern wheels. And a rear 8 3/4 axle. Bryce Every electronic device is manufactured with smoke stored deep inside... only a true genius can find a way to set it free. The most terrifying words in the English language are: "I'm from the government and I am here to help!"

Re: Which 72-93 truck should I buy? [Re: shinnery] #1644261 07/10/14 09:21 AM 07/10/14 09:21 AM
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Soopernaut master S Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,682 Des Moines IA	Is an 80-84 front disc brake axle a bolt in for a 72-74 truck? I suppose you may have to swap master cylinders. 1970 Dodge d100/eventually going on a 77 D100 frame

Re: Which 72-93 truck should I buy? [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1644262 07/10/14 10:46 AM 07/10/14 10:46 AM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida rickstershemi master
rickstershemi master Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida	Quote: Yours is a part time. The full time had a NP203 t-case and was always in 4wd, you could not unlock the front hubs as they spun all the time. Hiloc-Hi-N-Lo-Loloc. It had a chain in the T=case that wore out, small front wheel bearings that were ugly to change. Others may have different opinions but that is my thought on them. Your 73 is a tough truck too, it just has drums on the front rather than the discs on the 80 and up part timers. I really like the 72-80 body style so the 80 is a bit of a holy grail to me with it's great styling and Part time 4WD system. Nothing wrong with the 81 and up trucks either of course but I just like the early body styling more. Sheldon Thanks for the clarification Sheldon.....that 73 was a great truck....had it for over 10 years and never once gave me a problem....and it got worked hard Rickster

Re: Which 72-93 truck should I buy? [Re: Soopernaut] #1644263 07/10/14 12:21 PM 07/10/14 12:21 PM
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CTD5.9 super stock C Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 760 Canada	Quote: Is an 80-84 front disc brake axle a bolt in for a 72-74 truck? I suppose you may have to swap master cylinders. Yes other then the correct master cylinder it's a bolt in affair. Dodge didn't change very many dimensions until 94.

Re: Which 72-93 truck should I buy? [Re: CTD5.9] #1644264 07/10/14 02:56 PM 07/10/14 02:56 PM
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torredcuda OP super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,030 NH	So which years have the fulltime 4wd, I see the `77 military trucks have it? https://www.facebook.com/jeffrey.hunt.750/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Northeast-Mighty-Mopar-Club/365435766974452?ref=aymt_homepage_panel `72 Barracuda 340/4spd `70 road runner 383/auto `73 road runner 400/4spd `76 W100 clubcab

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