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Re: Putting glide behind a small block
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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06/19/14 03:41 PM
06/19/14 03:41 PM
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Portage,michigan
B3422W5
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Portage,michigan
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Great points Monte..........
Just be aware 90% or higher of us on here know we aren't ever going to make a living at bracket racing, so we do our best, live with the results, and go back to busting rocks on Monday morning.
Personally, I have gone plenty of rounds, and won a little money here and there to boot, but to me it's all about getting a given combo to run as good as it can.
Even if bracket racing you get plenty of chances( time trials, opponent red lights, etc) to run the car out the back door and see how fast it can go.
Most everybody I know is constantly " pecking away" at the ET to make the car faster.
Even the OP, who I know well, is like that....... Long story short, lots of us like to compete and bracket racing is the most available platform for that..... But in many cases, we like to go as fast as we can while doing so.
69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8
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Re: Putting glide behind a small block
[Re: Monte_Smith]
#1634425
06/19/14 07:05 PM
06/19/14 07:05 PM
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Mcallen, TX
SB449VALIANT
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Mcallen, TX
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I remember been a PITA with Rob Shape ( ATI ) , i asked him for a complete powerglide supercase for sb mopar, his answers were:
We can sell you just the case and adapter. The case is $693.26, and the
adapter is $125.09 We are still in r&d on the SB mopar bell
not sure on an eta... still trying to work the bugs out
And then on April 01 2008 i recived this email from him.
Complete kit is now in production (bell, case, flexplate, adapter, and hardware). Price is $1310.30
Give it a try....i have tried both the adapter plate with oem powerglide, then a glide cut for JW bell, you won't be disappointed
Btw they did sent the ATI powerglide to me without the adapter spacer to...i might have the first one i have to check the serial
As a matter of a fact i just finished doing some sheet metal work to my 65 valiant firewall, o well i did try to stay as close as Original possible but with an engine moved an inch back you get all kind of free problems.
Btw iam about to send the ATI case to get the internals in, to Mobile Alabama in the next couple of days,i wonder if i only need to send the Case and Tail housing?
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Re: Putting glide behind a small block
[Re: nitrousr]
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07/19/14 10:31 PM
07/19/14 10:31 PM
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regina sask
nitrousr
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We are in the process of putting a glide behind our hemi and were going back and forth between the jw bell or the adaptor plate. In the end we went with the adaptor plate and an aftermarket one piece chevy case. The final decision was based on if we hurt the trans we were more likely to be able to borrow/buy a chev setup than a trans that was modified for a jw.
just wanted to provide an update to this. As it turns out there is considerable modification needed to fit a starter to the chevy bellhousing. The grinding required has rendered the sfi tag void. As happens regularily a good idea has turned out to be anything but. Plans now will be to cut bellhousing off and install a jw. Just wanted to post this in case anyone else was considering this route.
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Re: Putting glide behind a small block
[Re: Monte_Smith]
#1634427
07/19/14 10:38 PM
07/19/14 10:38 PM
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Quicktree
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While that may be true, in this case the OP said it was all about "winning rounds", NOT laying down killer 60ft numbers. So if your only goal is to be consistent and win rounds, the 60ft is not really of any consequence, as long as the car does it the same every round. A two speed WILL be more consistent, I doubt many will dispute that.
My other responses were geared towards the "glide car won't 60ft" comments, that perpetuate EVERY thread on this board where a glide gets mentioned. Does EVERY car need a glide, of course not. But also does a car having a glide automatically make it a weak 60ft car...HELL no. So as with all things, a one size fits all scenario does not apply here.
One other thing......if you are a true bracket racer, that only cares about winning rounds and your car easily makes the ET break for the class and you can have good lights.......why would you care what it 60fts. Cut a light, run the number, drive the finish line, YOU WIN!!! A better 60ft never won a bracket race. What will be more consistent on a track to track basis......a car that goes low 1.30 60fts, but is on the edge or has the wheels 3 feet in the air, or the car that "drives off" and goes high 30 or low 40 60fts?
Rarely does getting every ounce of performance from your combo AND winning lots of rounds go hand in hand. A car "on the edge" is usually an inconsistent car. How many times a guy tell you "I lost 2 in the 60 and couldn't catch him".........when I bracket raced, I heard it every day at the track. And it was MY quest for ultimate performance that pushed me from brackets to heads up. I decided I wanted my car to be as fast as it could be, but I also started winning lots less rounds, because I was always "tinkering" instead of just standing pat and going rounds. Just have to decide what your goals are
Monte
 I would take a glide any day over a 727 or 904 for bracket racing.
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Re: Putting glide behind a small block
[Re: nitrousr]
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07/19/14 10:38 PM
07/19/14 10:38 PM
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Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY
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Quote:
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We are in the process of putting a glide behind our hemi and were going back and forth between the jw bell or the adaptor plate. In the end we went with the adaptor plate and an aftermarket one piece chevy case. The final decision was based on if we hurt the trans we were more likely to be able to borrow/buy a chev setup than a trans that was modified for a jw.
just wanted to provide an update to this. As it turns out there is considerable modification needed to fit a starter to the chevy bellhousing. The grinding required has rendered the sfi tag void. As happens regularily a good idea has turned out to be anything but. Plans now will be to cut bellhousing off and install a jw. Just wanted to post this in case anyone else was considering this route.
I went with the JW on the get go.. to me it was the
easiest and cheapest way
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Re: Putting glide behind a small block
[Re: nitrousr]
#1634429
07/19/14 11:06 PM
07/19/14 11:06 PM
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Quicktree
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We are in the process of putting a glide behind our hemi and were going back and forth between the jw bell or the adaptor plate. In the end we went with the adaptor plate and an aftermarket one piece chevy case. The final decision was based on if we hurt the trans we were more likely to be able to borrow/buy a chev setup than a trans that was modified for a jw.
just wanted to provide an update to this. As it turns out there is considerable modification needed to fit a starter to the chevy bellhousing. The grinding required has rendered the sfi tag void. As happens regularily a good idea has turned out to be anything but. Plans now will be to cut bellhousing off and install a jw. Just wanted to post this in case anyone else was considering this route.
JW is the only way to go imo
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Re: Putting glide behind a small block
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
#1634430
07/19/14 11:58 PM
07/19/14 11:58 PM
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Posts: 1,499
San Antonio,TX
440W8 Duster
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San Antonio,TX
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I went with the JW on the get go.. to me it was the easiest and cheapest way
Same here!!
70 Duster W8 motor.
1.29 60ft 5.79 1/8 at 120 mph
glide with 1.80 gear
@3170 lbs.
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