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Another 727 explosion with pictures #1630434
06/08/14 12:18 PM 06/08/14 12:18 PM
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1970 Duster
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5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time
Re: Another 727 explosion with pictures [Re: pittsburghracer] #1630435
06/08/14 12:40 PM 06/08/14 12:40 PM
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CEDAR RAPIDS
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This wouldn't happen with a billet drum..

Re: Another 727 explosion with pictures [Re: pittsburghracer] #1630436
06/08/14 12:52 PM 06/08/14 12:52 PM
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Tucson, Arizona
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That's a buddy of mines car. I think that happened a while back. Ugly stuff.

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Re: Another 727 explosion with pictures [Re: clonestocker] #1630437
06/08/14 01:09 PM 06/08/14 01:09 PM
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That's a buddy of mines car. I think that happened a while back. Ugly stuff.

8-3/4 behind it?
Re: Another 727 explosion with pictures [Re: Quicktree] #1630438
06/08/14 01:17 PM 06/08/14 01:17 PM
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Ontario Canada
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That's a buddy of mines car. I think that happened a while back. Ugly stuff.

8-3/4 behind it?



Here we go!!!!!
Re: Another 727 explosion with pictures [Re: Quicktree] #1630439
06/08/14 01:23 PM 06/08/14 01:23 PM
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W. Kentucky
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That's why I put a billet steel drum in the one I built over the winter. I saw the one the Foolish Pleasure RR blew up at Bristol several years ago. The transmission case was broken completely in half and the sun shell looked like you pried it open all the way around. The blanket did it's job, but was junk.
Re: Another 727 explosion with pictures [Re: Quicktree] #1630440
06/08/14 01:25 PM 06/08/14 01:25 PM
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Tucson, Arizona
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That's a buddy of mines car. I think that happened a while back. Ugly stuff.

8-3/4 behind it?



Yup

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Re: Another 727 explosion with pictures [Re: Plymouth340] #1630441
06/08/14 01:34 PM 06/08/14 01:34 PM
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hope the driver is ok. time for a after market 2 speed.. i have been told even with a good drum this can still happen if the stars line up

Re: Another 727 explosion with pictures [Re: clonestocker] #1630442
06/08/14 01:35 PM 06/08/14 01:35 PM
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Walton's Mountain, Pa
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"Old age and treachery trumps youth and enthusiasm, every time!"

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Re: Another 727 explosion with pictures [Re: MattW] #1630443
06/08/14 02:26 PM 06/08/14 02:26 PM
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That's a buddy of mines car. I think that happened a while back. Ugly stuff.

8-3/4 behind it?



Here we go!!!!!


no we have been through this a million times. just curious?
Re: Another 727 explosion with pictures [Re: Steve1118] #1630444
06/08/14 02:35 PM 06/08/14 02:35 PM
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Tucson, Arizona
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Arroyo Seco Raceway in Deming is not a sanctioned track (AFAIK) and the apparent lack of a blanket or shield, low band apply VB, or aftermarket front drum, knowing the individual, does not surprise me. Sorry to hear it tore up his car.

68 RR 528" INDY MAXX 07 2500 CTD Southwest International Raceway - IHRA - Tucson, AZ
Re: Another 727 explosion with pictures [Re: MRMOPAR] #1630445
06/08/14 05:01 PM 06/08/14 05:01 PM
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St.Louis, Mo.
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Did it blow the Dash off,
Re: Another 727 explosion with pictures [Re: MRMOPAR] #1630446
06/08/14 05:12 PM 06/08/14 05:12 PM
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Between a rock & a hard place
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Arroyo Seco Raceway in Deming is not a sanctioned track (AFAIK) and the apparent lack of a blanket or shield, low band apply VB, or aftermarket front drum, knowing the individual, does not surprise me. Sorry to hear it tore up his car.



Yea, but if it's not a 10 second car, it isn't required to have a blanket nor a shield.

Related note on Sanctioned tracks and tech: In the last three years, been to Redding, Sac, Sonoma, Fallon and Famoso (NHRA OWNED, no less) NEVER had ONE tech guy look underneath for our trans protection on a low 10 second Duster. NOT ONE. Only ONE asked about it even.

Safety is really up the car owner/driver.

Unrelated note: That sure is "functional" bracket car.

Re: Another 727 explosion with pictures [Re: cudadoug] #1630447
06/09/14 01:38 AM 06/09/14 01:38 AM
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geezer acres rest home
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funny part is it is always the SAME scenario,if you gave these guys a loaded gun,told them to point it at somebody and pull the trigger,would they wonder why that person ended up dead on the floor with a hole in them?....answer...yes!

SFI 25.5 depends,no leak,even at 213 mph....
Re: Another 727 explosion with pictures [Re: w8whitedart] #1630448
06/09/14 01:55 AM 06/09/14 01:55 AM
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Park Forest, IL
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hope the driver is ok. time for a after market 2 speed.. i have been told even with a good drum this can still happen if the stars line up



"If the stars line up" a Powerglide and T-400 will explode too.

"Everybody funny, now you funny too."
Re: Another 727 explosion with pictures [Re: slantzilla] #1630449
06/09/14 11:02 AM 06/09/14 11:02 AM
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Graham, WA
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I am thinking that I will have the 727 that was built in 2012 for the Ramcharger and never run refitted with a billet drum and a carbon fiber shield before I run it. If my grandson is hurt in my race car, his mother will never forgive me. BTW the Ramcharger has a Dana 60 with a spool, one less thing to worry about.

1986 Dodge Ramcharger 440 2wd, Bracket Racer Under Construction
1998 Ram 2500 QuadCab, new daily driver.
2008 Honda Element
2014 Carry-On 7x14 Cargo Trailer
Re: Another 727 explosion with pictures [Re: Polarapete] #1630450
06/09/14 09:22 PM 06/09/14 09:22 PM
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You may want to re-think the carbon fiber shield. Last year at Eddyville it did Don Bremmer no good. It looked like a ball of yarn, that what was left, that is. Didn't stop anything!
Re: Another 727 explosion with pictures [Re: pittsburghracer] #1630451
06/09/14 11:24 PM 06/09/14 11:24 PM
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Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
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Been there, done that, at least my car has, I wasn't driving it went it sploded....I will keep my CSR shield on unless somthing better comes along. He was very lucky....When they do go, they go big...I think the newer bolt in sprags will help keep that from happening, but I would rather not test that theory.

Last edited by Dragula; 06/09/14 11:25 PM.
'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Another 727 explosion with pictures [Re: Dragula] #1630452
06/10/14 02:15 PM 06/10/14 02:15 PM
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fredericksburg,va
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Been there, done that, at least my car has, I wasn't driving it went it sploded....I will keep my CSR shield on unless somthing better comes along. He was very lucky....When they do go, they go big...I think the newer bolt in sprags will help keep that from happening, but I would rather not test that theory.



Knowing the right way of racing a 727 helps too.
Re: Another 727 explosion with pictures [Re: cudaman1969] #1630453
06/10/14 11:35 PM 06/10/14 11:35 PM
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Kissimmee Fl.
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Been there, done that, at least my car has, I wasn't driving it went it sploded....I will keep my CSR shield on unless somthing better comes along. He was very lucky....When they do go, they go big...I think the newer bolt in sprags will help keep that from happening, but I would rather not test that theory.



Knowing the right way of racing a 727 helps too.




ding ding ding
I would be willing to bet that 99% of the ones that let go could be traced back to either driver error or a part failure in the driveline that should have resulted in a tear down and inspection that didn't get done.

I see way to many people where they are backing up and slap it in drive with out stopping, or have a motor that idles way to high and dropping it in gear getting on and off the throttle in 1st, doing a burnout and then putting it in N to clear the motor and not rolling the car far enough forward to re load the sprag ect ect ect.

But we always blame the unit. Flame away

70 duster full chassis super pro 416 CNC Indybrock heads 727 w/brake

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