Pull 440 engine with or without torque converter?
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05/24/14 05:27 PM
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I'm going to pull a 440 engine out of 69 Chrysler without removing the transmission. Based on prior experience with removing and installing big block engines (of which I have none), what is the best way to do it: should I leave the torque converter attached to the engine, or should I disconnect the torque converter before I remove the engine? I guess the same goes for re-installation.
When I was young and stupid, I pulled a 318 out of a 73 Charger, and I think I disconnected the engine from the converter before I pulled it. If i remember right, that was one of the biggest pains of doing the job, having to bump the engine with the starter to get access to the bolts, and then work on them in that narrow area with a wrench. Also when I was slightly less young but maybe even stupider, I replaced a 727 transmission in a 73 340 'Cuda (a genuine 340 'Cuda, I should never have sold it), and I disconnected the torque converter to get the tranny out. That one caused me a lot of problems later when the bolts came loose and I had to find replacements for them, when there was no internet (boy did that suck).
I don't know that in either case I actually had to remove the torque converter; it might have been hard to get the tranny out without removing it (lying on my young stupid back under the car), but with the engine dangling from a hoist, I think it wouldn't be too hard to slide the engine forward a little before lifting it, especially since I've got the radiator out of the car.
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69 Chrysler 300 Convertible
77 Chrysler New Yorker Brougham 2-dr
03 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
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Re: Pull 440 engine with or without torque converter?
[Re: mantonas]
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05/24/14 06:32 PM
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therocks
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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I agree un do the convertor.My buddy pulled a 390 from a C6 and pulled the convertor with the motor.He broke the front shaft off.Besides no trans fluid running out of the convertor. Rocky
Last edited by therocks; 05/24/14 06:32 PM.
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Re: Pull 440 engine with or without torque converter?
[Re: mantonas]
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05/25/14 02:35 PM
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Make a small metal bar with a hole in it to bolt to the transmission and hold the torque converter in place, so it can't slide out of the seated position in the transmission.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's 1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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Re: Pull 440 engine with or without torque converter?
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05/25/14 06:48 PM
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leave the torque with trans,no mess,easier clearance to lift engine,mark 1 flex-converter with paint pen for easier re-alignment
PS, before reinstalling engine be sure the torque converter clicks in twice or you will burn the trans pump out,also a floor jack and block of wood to hold trans up
once you've stroked it,you'll wish you stroked it sooner
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Re: Pull 440 engine with or without torque converter?
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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05/27/14 09:55 PM
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Okay - I will not try to pull the engine with the torque converter attached. I will either unbolt it from the torque converter or pull the engine and transmission as an assembly. Thanks for the input!
69 Chrysler 300 Convertible
77 Chrysler New Yorker Brougham 2-dr
03 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
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