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New Best & Kicked Out #1624287
05/24/14 12:56 AM
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Drove the 68` to Quaker City tonight and made 2 runs with the new engine and other repairs.
Previous best was 11.99@110 at a faster track..

1st run 11.60@115mph spun thru low gear.....

2nd lowerd tires to 14lbs..............
11.490@115mph,1.63-60ft..still slipped some....
Goes thru the traps at 4,800.
No roll-bar,, don`t do that again.

68` Satellite,bench seat,column shift,stock converter and trans,3.33 Dana, AND 440 W/B&M 177
Blower.3-lbs boost LOL :goes up with more RPM....
Needs more gear/converter to get max performance at the track,starts to really come on at the 1,000ft. line.

Put tools and cooler back in trunk and drove 35miles home.
I am happy with that for what it is.........

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Re: New Best & Kicked Out [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1624288
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Re: New Best & Kicked Out [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1624289
05/24/14 01:25 AM
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Very nice


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Re: New Best & Kicked Out [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1624290
05/24/14 03:24 AM
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Drove the 68` to Quaker City tonight and made 2 runs with the new engine and other repairs.
Previous best was [Email]11.99@110[/Email] at a faster track..

1st run [Email]11.60@115mph[/Email] spun thru low gear.....

2nd lowerd tires to 14lbs..............
[Email]11.490@115mph[/Email],1.63-60ft..still slipped some....
Goes thru the traps at 4,800.
No roll-bar,, don`t do that again.

68` Satellite,bench seat,column shift,stock converter and trans,3.33 Dana, AND 440 W/B&M 177
Blower.3-lbs boost LOL :goes up with more RPM....
Needs more gear/converter to get max performance at the track,starts to really come on at the 1,000ft. line.

Put tools and cooler back in trunk and drove 35miles home.
I am happy with that for what it is.........




Kicked out , Heck i ran my Duster for 2 yrs. running 10.9s @ 123+ with no roll bar , Yes "stupid" i know, but i can't believe they let me slide all that time, Of coarse they did like the car & both tracks were borderline outlaw .


75 Duster, 451 10.87 @ 123.58 NA 97 Z28 6sp., 12.01 @ 115 on a 100 shot 71 Swinger. 360 magnum. 12.58 @ 105 78 cutlass, 469 BBC. 12.70 @ 108 on street tires. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2kqNmMfheU
Re: New Best & Kicked Out [Re: joedust451] #1624291
05/24/14 03:32 AM
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Quaker has suddenly gotten "official",they gave me greif in tech for not having a guard on the blower belt. Its a simple 10-rib/serpentine belt,not a cogged 10-71 Top Alcohol FC.

I will be back and see how long it takes till they give me an aultimatum.

Car got a lot of attention,wife says the blower is really loud and people are curious as to why it sounds "funny".


70` Cuda`,440 6BBL Jerico,Dana 4.56 Still on 93 Pump Gas
9.87 @ 136/1.31-60ft.`09 Mopar Nationals PASSON PERFORMANCE "Stick-Shift" Champ!
2013 StickShift Challenge Winner@ Mopar Nationals!
Re: New Best & Kicked Out [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1624292
05/24/14 08:04 AM
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Nice runs Dennis!


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Re: New Best & Kicked Out [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1624293
05/24/14 10:14 AM
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Quaker City was much more tolerant that I would have been, I wouldn't have let you into the track in the first place
Congratulations. How many PSI????? How many cubes????


66 Belvedere Vert, 4 Speed/Jerico, slowly, very slowly, getting faster - NA LD Wedge
New New Best: 10.56 @129
68 B'cuda 4 gear Jerico - Another New Best of 9.86 & Trying to slow up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4jDLKwd9Gs
Re: New Best & Kicked Out [Re: oldiron] #1624294
05/24/14 10:56 AM
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Nice going and congrats on the new best. I remember the first time I ran 10's that on my second pass the track tech guy came over and told me to get a fire jacket on or go home as I had forgot all about the fire jacket. Ron

Re: New Best & Kicked Out [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1624295
05/24/14 11:20 AM
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Nice to see you made an early evening of it

That car is scooting right along and I bet it's a blast to drive on the street

Congrats on the ejection

Re: New Best & Kicked Out [Re: roadhazard] #1624296
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Very nice street car !

Re: New Best & Kicked Out [Re: oldiron] #1624297
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Quaker City was much more tolerant that I would have been, I wouldn't have let you into the track in the first place
Congratulations. How many PSI????? How many cubes????




Well I have the its NOT blue with New Hampshire plates rule working in my favor.

440 cu. 3-lbs boost. I`ve seen 7-lbs at 6,000rpm,but with the gear thats not practical.

One scary note: for the last month or so I`ve been "testing" on the road,4,800=115mph,
Iv`e had it to 6,000 in 3rd-----yikes!!!!!
Thank You Jimmy for watching out for my foolishness..

It really is a fun dual-purpose toy. It drives SO nice and the power is so fluid it reminds me of a hot-rod Turbo-Diesel.

With traction and more gear I beleive it could dip in th 10`s.

I have NO idea how good or bad the tune is versus "perfect".
Timing @ 30* jetting AFR 12.0 which is lean by most opinions.
It was a very pleasant suprise.....we all need those every so often to keep us hooked I guess

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70` Cuda`,440 6BBL Jerico,Dana 4.56 Still on 93 Pump Gas
9.87 @ 136/1.31-60ft.`09 Mopar Nationals PASSON PERFORMANCE "Stick-Shift" Champ!
2013 StickShift Challenge Winner@ Mopar Nationals!
Re: New Best & Kicked Out [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1624298
05/24/14 02:27 PM
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Cant you change your pulley ratio to get boost sooner
and more of it... whats that little blower worth for
max pressure

Re: New Best & Kicked Out [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1624299
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Cant you change your pulley ratio to get boost sooner
and more of it... whats that little blower worth for
max pressure





Ratio is 2.13 to 1.
I`ve seen 2.42 to 1.
Read some SBF/SBC stuff on YellowBullet that got 10/13lbs. out of them. But they spum the blower 16,000 rpm with Alcohol/E-85 set-ups.

I was thinking if I could get a converter made that was soft enough to minimize the drop on the shifts yet act stockish on the highway it could pickup quit a bit.
Choose the 3.33 gear for street manners,I think 3.73 would really wake her up. IF i could get traction.
Chassis is STOCK..shocks/sway-bar/battery in front/heavy everythingetc......
Really starts to pull at the 1,000 ft mark,Guessing if I could get it to use 5,200/5,500 shifts it would really fly.
Also could be its too rich/not enough timing and its that late in a pass till it gets into its sweet-spot.

Its only been 14-hours and I`m already thinking about a roll-bar and gears and converters and cams and divorce,,,cause the wife will kill me if I ruin "her" car LOL

Old habits die hard....

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Re: New Best & Kicked Out [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1624300
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What RPM do u shift at? 4800?

Re: New Best & Kicked Out [Re: WO23Coronet] #1624301
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That's awesome.....And glad it runs that good right from a new build. I am sure with some testing and ajustments, a roll bar will really be needed.

We were also told to leave once last year. We brought the resto mod/stock '70 Charger out for TNT and ended up going 11.13 at 122 on the last pass....Track owner was not very happy when he noticed only the stock lap belts in place.....Dang pump gas Hemi makes some power.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: New Best & Kicked Out [Re: WO23Coronet] #1624302
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What RPM do u shift at? 4800?




Yes on the 11.49 I shifted at 4,800.

I messed around with shift points last couple years ,really does`nt make amuch differance EXCEPT waiting for high RPMs. anyting over 5,500 ish really slows it down. But that was last year with what turned out to be ZERO fuel pressure!!!
Gauge read 5psi,,, bad gauge and pump actually had ZERO which lead to 5 broken cast pistons LOL

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Re: New Best & Kicked Out [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1624303
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Myself,I would increase the blower speed and if you
want you can change the gear to the 3.73 but that would
be about it.. its your wifes car and I dont know if
you would want to spring for a conv.. then start tuning
to get the max out of what you have.... JMO

Re: New Best & Kicked Out [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1624304
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Re: New Best & Kicked Out [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1624305
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Myself,I would increase the blower speed and if you
want you can change the gear to the 3.73 but that would
be about it.. its your wifes car and I dont know if
you would want to spring for a conv.. then start tuning
to get the max out of what you have.... JMO





That's an awfully teeny tiny blower. I think you would cringe at what the discharge air temp is now never mind after you dial it up.

Good job none the less. One of my "After I win the lottery" goals is to build a "patina" rod like Dizuster and tour the country to see how many racetracks I can be invited not to return to.

Kevin

Re: New Best & Kicked Out [Re: Twostick] #1624306
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Myself,I would increase the blower speed and if you
want you can change the gear to the 3.73 but that would
be about it.. its your wifes car and I dont know if
you would want to spring for a conv.. then start tuning
to get the max out of what you have.... JMO





That's an awfully teeny tiny blower. I think you would cringe at what the discharge air temp is now never mind after you dial it up.

Good job none the less. One of my "After I win the lottery" goals is to build a "patina" rod like Dizuster and tour the country to see how many racetracks I can be invited not to return to.

Kevin




At 3 psi now(max) I dont think it'll go much higher
both in psi or temps... Dizuster doesnt inner cool
either, I know.. I built the set up for him and he
didnt want the inner cooler... and he runs a lot more
psi than the OP

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