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Re: Swapping from 727 to Turbo 400 [Re: Ian] #1623915 05/24/14 08:24 PM 05/24/14 08:24 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 259 Scatchamatoon S Saskabusa OP enthusiast
Saskabusa OP enthusiast S Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 259 Scatchamatoon	Quote: a glide will fit in tunnel with no mods and will work well at your power level Thanks. I was pretty sure that would work. I am slightly familiar with those. I am trying to figure if it is worth while to look at the 400 or just stick with a PG. What I want to do is be able to bracket race the car at 9.1 have a completely reliable drivetrain and have capacity to go faster. 1974 Roadrunner 1967 Charger

Re: Swapping from 727 to Turbo 400 [Re: Saskabusa] #1623916 05/24/14 10:51 PM 05/24/14 10:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,044 Victoria, Australia Ian super stock
Ian super stock Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,044 Victoria, Australia	Quote: Quote: a glide will fit in tunnel with no mods and will work well at your power level Thanks. I was pretty sure that would work. I am slightly familiar with those. I am trying to figure if it is worth while to look at the 400 or just stick with a PG. What I want to do is be able to bracket race the car at 9.1 have a completely reliable drivetrain and have capacity to go faster. i love the glide and they will handle anything you can throw at it ,my car ia a little lighter and a less power than yours 1.37 60 ft std gear set 280 $ converter on a average track at 3550 lbs .i think you can not go wrong with a glide in yours ,pm if your keen i can get you a good deal on them cheers 8154778-GetAttachment(4).jpg (130 downloads) 1.37 60 ft [email]6.0@113[/email] [email]9.57@141[/email] 408 glide 3550lbs new video http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Xvq3ZObywQE

Re: Swapping from 727 to Turbo 400 [Re: Ian] #1623917 05/25/14 10:44 AM 05/25/14 10:44 AM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,161 Mississippi M Mr. T super stock
Mr. T super stock M Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,161 Mississippi	I am not trying to pick a fight. I have known bracket racer's that have done away with their 727's and replaced them with Power Glide's in order to make their cars more consistent by reducing the initial torque and only having to shift once. But, what exactly is supposed to be the advantage of a Turbo 400 over a 727?

Re: Swapping from 727 to Turbo 400 [Re: Mr. T] #1623918 05/25/14 11:58 AM 05/25/14 11:58 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 226 lino lakes,MN onebaddakota enthusiast
onebaddakota enthusiast Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 226 lino lakes,MN	I always thought that the perceived advantages of the turbo 400 weren't great enough to warrant the cost. Once you outgrew the HP level of a built 727, you were in glide territory anyway. Hopefully, the "in the know" guys can help me out here. 10.56 at 125.6, with a 1.43 60 ft. E85, Hyd. Roller 410 magnum,full exhaust, 3500 race weight.

Re: Swapping from 727 to Turbo 400 [Re: Steve1118] #1623919 05/25/14 02:28 PM 05/25/14 02:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,881 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,881 Rio Linda, CA	Quote: "most folks in the know recognize the superiority of the TH400 and have for a long time" I see, I understand now. I guess we've must been under a rock since 1964. Silly us for not seeing the obvious superiority of the TH400 and wasting time with TF's on our Hemi and wedge cars....if we'd have only known...... Excuse us for not being in the know. Brand loyalty versus reality. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: Swapping from 727 to Turbo 400 [Re: John_Kunkel] #1623920 05/25/14 02:50 PM 05/25/14 02:50 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,831 Kirkland, Washington Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts
Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,831 Kirkland, Washington	Where does the C6 rank in the mix?

Re: Swapping from 727 to Turbo 400 [Re: Mr. T] #1623921 05/25/14 08:46 PM 05/25/14 08:46 PM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 814 in front of the computer 8 80arrow super stock
80arrow super stock 8 Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 814 in front of the computer	I might be wrong but I think you can get different first gear ratios for a th400, not sure if you can with a 727? Changing the first gear ratio would help if you have a lot of power and limited traction.

Re: Swapping from 727 to Turbo 400 [Re: 80arrow] #1623922 05/25/14 09:10 PM 05/25/14 09:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas 70AARcuda master
70AARcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas	Quote: I might be wrong but I think you can get different first gear ratios for a th400, not sure if you can with a 727? Changing the first gear ratio would help if you have a lot of power and limited traction. available from Tranzact of Indy for 727. 1:95 1st 1:35 2nd 1:1 3rd 2:12 1st 1:35 2nd 1:1 3rd 2:28 1st 1:40 2nd 1:1 3rd Tony 70 AARCuda Vitamin C 71 Dart Swinger 360 10.318 @ 128.22(10-04-14 Bakersfield) 71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas) 71 Duster 408 (10.29 @ 127.86 3/16/19 Las Vegas)

Re: Swapping from 727 to Turbo 400 [Re: 70AARcuda] #1623923 05/25/14 09:32 PM 05/25/14 09:32 PM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 814 in front of the computer 8 80arrow super stock
80arrow super stock 8 Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 814 in front of the computer	Quote: Quote: I might be wrong but I think you can get different first gear ratios for a th400, not sure if you can with a 727? Changing the first gear ratio would help if you have a lot of power and limited traction. available from Tranzact of Indy for 727. 1:95 1st 1:35 2nd 1:1 3rd 2:12 1st 1:35 2nd 1:1 3rd 2:28 1st 1:40 2nd 1:1 3rd Thanks, I was thinking of changing the first gear in my 727. What is the standard first ratio?

Re: Swapping from 727 to Turbo 400 [Re: 80arrow] #1623924 05/26/14 08:26 AM 05/26/14 08:26 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,480 north of coder moparx "Butt Crack Bob"
moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,480 north of coder	Quote: Quote: Quote: I might be wrong but I think you can get different first gear ratios for a th400, not sure if you can with a 727? Changing the first gear ratio would help if you have a lot of power and limited traction. available from Tranzact of Indy for 727. 1:95 1st 1:35 2nd 1:1 3rd 2:12 1st 1:35 2nd 1:1 3rd 2:28 1st 1:40 2nd 1:1 3rd Thanks, I was thinking of changing the first gear in my 727. What is the standard first ratio? 2.48 I believe

Re: Swapping from 727 to Turbo 400 [Re: moparx] #1623925 05/26/14 10:42 AM 05/26/14 10:42 AM
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,072 Mo. racerx master
racerx master Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,072 Mo.	2.76

Re: Swapping from 727 to Turbo 400 [Re: racerx] #1623926 05/27/14 08:21 AM 05/27/14 08:21 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,480 north of coder moparx "Butt Crack Bob"
moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,480 north of coder	oops. I goofed. 727 ratios are : 2.45 low, 1.45 2nd, 1:1 drive & 2.20 reverse. 904/999 are: 2.74 low,1.54 2nd, 1:1 drive & 2.21 reverse. sorry for the mistake. with that being said, I think there was a low gear planetary set for the 727 that was around a 2.77 low but I don't know for sure what it really was.

Re: Swapping from 727 to Turbo 400 [Re: moparx] #1623927 05/27/14 12:22 PM 05/27/14 12:22 PM
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tsanchez enthusiast Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 235 Gilbert AZ	I am thinking about doing the same thing, good converter is going to be 1200, then drum and sprag, brake etc. Ill have 2500 in it and still have limited converter choices(AMC) so going t400 I can borrow converters from all my friends and brake and all the other things are cheaper. I could space out the 727 but then it gets real tight with the csr shield.

Re: Swapping from 727 to Turbo 400 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1623928 05/27/14 01:18 PM 05/27/14 01:18 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,163 CT GTX MATT master
GTX MATT master Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,163 CT	Quote: Quote: Quote: I also don't understand the sudden shift on the perception of the TF. It's not "sudden", most folks in the know recognize the superiority of the TH400 and have for a long time. Doesnt the TH400 use a sprag also I am no expert on either. But it seems that people think only Torqueflites explode. Theres exploding TH400s too. I don't know what causes it in the case of the 400s, but it happens. Last edited by GTX MATT; 05/27/14 01:23 PM. Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street

Re: Swapping from 727 to Turbo 400 [Re: GTX MATT] #1623929 05/27/14 02:29 PM 05/27/14 02:29 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 290 Cincinnati, Ohio d7cook enthusiast
d7cook enthusiast Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 290 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: I also don't understand the sudden shift on the perception of the TF. It's not "sudden", most folks in the know recognize the superiority of the TH400 and have for a long time. Doesnt the TH400 use a sprag also I am no expert on either. But it seems that people think only Torqueflites explode. Theres exploding TH400s too. I don't know what causes it in the case of the 400s, but it happens. Start the burnout in 2nd or 3rd and never neutral the trans at the stripe. Not doing that will cause explosions. TH400's are heavy and do eat up some HP but they are also very tough and easy to build. Shift quality is better IMHO and the ability to buy an SFI case is a big plus. In my case I just used a GM car with a TH 400 and swapped the motor. LOL 1967 Coronet, 1989 Daytona tube chassis. Former cars, 66 Charger, 67 R/T, 69 Coronet, 67 Dart GT. -Banned for life from V8Buick.com-

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