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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: Monte_Smith] #1621337
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what a train wreck of a thread


They ALL are when it comes to Mopar vs ANY other kind of parts. The "purists" get their knickers in such a wad at the mere thought of having a non Mopar part, that the "FACTS" that are then relayed are nothing more than blind "brand loyalty" and in reality have NOTHING to do with real world FACTS.

You see this the BEST in any Mopar vs GM trans debate. The Dana vs 9" debates and the pinion angel threads........LOL!!!

Most of these threads, to get any meaningful info from them, require a user to have the rarest of ALL SUPER powers......the power of applying COMMON SENSE........LOL!!!!

Monte


I don't hear Ford and GM racers crying about having to run a Proflite in the record holding vehicles.

They just do it and set records.

As a matter of fact, Ford and GM racers seem to embrace every part that becomes available, including cylinder head and block configurations that were not assembly line offered.

They just buy it and go fast.


Then......at the end of the day they call it a Ford, Chevy, Pontiac, etc. and so does everyone else. It appears it's mainly in the MOPAR world that legions of the faithful get their panties in a bunch if the aftermarket deviates too far from the "Purple Shaft" cam.

Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: Monte_Smith] #1621338
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Monte, you have way more patients than me for this.


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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: bigtimeauto] #1621339
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Monte, you have way more patients than me for this.


Nah........sometimes I like to just to get the natives restless. Makes me laugh when I get stressed out. After all, you have to liven it up sometime. I mean how many E head and purple shaft cam threads can one read before he needs a little excitement.......LOL!!!!....In case you haven't noticed, I am very much an "against the grain" kinda guy.......HAHA!!!

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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: Monte_Smith] #1621340
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"Against the grain" is what MoPar is all about!


Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: bigtimeauto] #1621341
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Monte, you have way more patients than me for this.






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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: hemi-itis] #1621342
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In all honesty , building a 727 for 1000HP is not a real big challenge to any good transmission builder. With the parts available today and being able to use production ratios , the trans can be built for a reasonable cash layout and be very reliable. If altered ratios are required , the choices become somewhat limited but not to say it can't be done. Due to the height restrictions , the 727 does have limited converter selections. Those selections can be increased but a trans to block spacer would be required as the HP numbers increase much above the 1000hp mark.

The T400 and the powerglide are also good choices but if you are set in your ways, they may not be your first choice.


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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: bigtimeauto] #1621343
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Monte, you have way more patients than me for this.




Not too many heads up racers on this board. The ones that do and do it well get it.

Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: BobR] #1621344
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Not too many heads up racers on this board. The ones that do and do it well get it.




This is true but who said anything about the OP being a heads up car?

Sure the 400 makes the most sense but maybe that's not what he wants. The question was about a 727 capable of handling the power.


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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: Guitar Jones] #1621345
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Monte, you have way more patients than me for this.




Not too many heads up racers on this board. The ones that do and do it well get it.




This is true but who said anything about the OP being a heads up car?

Sure the 400 makes the most sense but maybe that's not what he wants. The question was about a 727 capable of handling the power.




the original post said he didn't want a glide, I suggested the turbo 400 as the correct part......


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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: bigtimeauto] #1621346
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Im sure a th400 would be a better tranny for this situation but I have seen plenty of 1000 h.p. plus cars running 727's if thats what he wants.


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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: dragram440] #1621347
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Im sure a th400 would be a better tranny for this situation but I have seen plenty of 1000 h.p. plus cars running 727's if thats what he wants.


BIG diff in 1000hp and 1500hp, which is the number listed in OP

Monte

Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: Monte_Smith] #1621348
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Im sure a th400 would be a better tranny for this situation but I have seen plenty of 1000 h.p. plus cars running 727's if thats what he wants.


BIG diff in 1000hp and 1500hp, which is the number listed in OP

Monte





lol I just typed that same reply


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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: bigtimeauto] #1621349
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I have no doubt there are avenues to take in both the trans and converter department if a 727 is a "must" have, but in a 1500hp application, I still think a 400 is the way to go if the choice is a 3spd automatic.

I'd probably opt for a 2spd in a blown deal, especially if it's a roots, or screw but that's just me.....

Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: jim sciortino] #1621350
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my buddy called A&A and hes says he can build one for him for 6K+ 2K for conv. i told him the about feedback. this will be a long thought for him!


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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: Monte_Smith] #1621351
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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: mikeysmopars] #1621352
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i had my mopar alt. converted to a 1 wire


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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: sixpacksteve] #1621353
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I dont understand you guys and your 1 wire alt... so
if it quits you just go buy a new one even if its the
internal regulator... I use the external regulator
for a purpose.. if the reg quits I put on another
and I do have a spare or two... yes if the alt quits
then I buy a alt.. but at least I have a choice and
maybe I can be back on the road in a couple of minutes

Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: mikeysmopars] #1621354
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If you follow the logic presented in this post then, we should get rid of the blown hemi and run what everyone else runs....


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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: sixpacksteve] #1621355
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my buddy called A&A and hes says he can build one for him for 6K+ 2K for conv. i told him the about feedback. this will be a long thought for him!




So you're saying he doesn't have to have a $10K Turdo 400?


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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1621356
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Just for some experience comments on this subject.

First I'm no trans expert, but I will tell you I've never regretted swapping to GM based transmissions, glide/400's. I have 4 cars with GM's and 1 still with a 727. When that one next needs service it'll go on the shelf and a 400 will replace it for the following reasons, many already stated.

First, parts availability

Second, converter options are LIMITLESS with a GM

Third, durability I have never seen (absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, understood)a 727 in a truly evil car. What i do see is 2 speed 400's, glides, and brunos ect used by people way more speed savvy than I will ever be. They do it for a reason, I'm sure.

Fourth, COST. Better parts for less money, with no personalities to be dealt with to acquire them. Order up, pay up, and you're done. Also 400's and glides fit in a Mopar better than a 727 (fact)

On the subject of loyalty, Should Mopar decide to pick up the trans bill for me, I'd proudly run a mopar trans. Since that burden rests solely in my hands, I'll spend my money on what best serves ME.

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