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1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? #1621297
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my buddy is a new 572 blown hemi and doesn't want to put a glide in it. Who has a 727 that would handle up to 1500 hp?


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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: sixpacksteve] #1621298
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turbo 400 is the best way


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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: bigtimeauto] #1621299
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Trans Act of Indy....They make a 727 with straight cut gears in a ratio you will need and they do 727 in a 2-speed....


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: Dragula] #1621300
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Second the idea of a Turbo 400

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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: Monte_Smith] #1621301
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400 and might be better off with a 2.10 low.

Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: jim sciortino] #1621302
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Another vote for the 400/210 idea.


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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: Al_Alguire] #1621303
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Contact Mark Micke.

Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: ksj] #1621304
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i believe he's trying to keep it all mopar


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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: sixpacksteve] #1621305
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i believe he's trying to keep it all mopar




i Believe listening to some of the advice in this thread could help his body stay in one piece.
727īs and to much power has a nasty habbit of destroying feets and legs.

Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: Al_Alguire] #1621306
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Before you go the chevy route, call Transact of Indy and talk to them about there UltraFlight 2-speed...

It is intended for blown alcohol applications.

http://www.gotranzact.com/


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: sixpacksteve] #1621307
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my buddy is a new 572 blown hemi and doesn't want to put a glide in it. Who has a 727 that would handle up to 1500 hp?


Try calling Dave Smith at Pro Trans, 661-940-7400 and see if he can hep you He makes a lot of custom tranny parts for some of the other large racing tranny. companys nation wide, he is the designer and maker of the "Proflyte" trannys that a lot of the NHRA Comp Eliminators,SS and Stock racers use If he doesn't have what he thinks you need he will tell you who has the best combination for your buddy


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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1621308
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if its a street or 1/4 mph car its going to love a turbo 400 with a 2.10 first gear. If its 1/8 drag car put a 2 speed turbo 400 in it.


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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: sixpacksteve] #1621309
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i believe he's trying to keep it all mopar


WHY???........who cares what brand trans is in it.

If he is just dead set against the GM trans, put a Bruno or a Lencodrive in it...........But NO WAY I would have a 727 behind that

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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: Monte_Smith] #1621310
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i believe he's trying to keep it all mopar


WHY???........who cares what brand trans is in it.

If he is just dead set against the GM trans, put a Bruno or a Lencodrive in it...........But NO WAY I would have a 727 behind that

Monte



I agree. When you're making that much steam, you need to put a trans that's going to live behind it, so it doesn't become a safety issue.
Nobody is going to see the trans, so who cares what company made it? Having half your right foot gone, just so you can say it's all Mopar, doesn't make much sense.


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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: Monte_Smith] #1621311
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Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: 1Fast340] #1621312
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i Believe listening to some of the advice in this thread could help his body stay in one piece.
727īs and to much power has a nasty habbit of destroying feets and legs.




TH400's fail too.

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i Believe listening to some of the advice in this thread could help his body stay in one piece.
727īs and to much power has a nasty habbit of destroying feets and legs.




TH400's fail too.


Anything can fail........but here is the thing. The 727 is NOT the go to 3 speed for high HP applications. If it WAS, there would be a multitude of aftermarket parts and those type trans would be common. Neither scenario is the reality. What you DO see very commonly is the Turbo 400. You see them everyday behind very high HP blown, nitrous and turbo cars. We have one that we put over 2000hp through on a weekly basis and have never had the first problem out of it. It is expensive?......you bet your a$$. We have over 10k in ours counting the converter, but it is as close to bullet proof as a trans can be. Also, LOTS of companies make these parts and they are easy to find. While there appears to be ONE person that does these type trans mods to the 727 and from posts here and on other sites.......getting hold of that company, or getting them to do anything seems to be a crap shoot. That simple fact would push me toward the more mainstream solution.

Lets also not forget the converter situation. Commonly known that the converter distance in a 727 is NOT ideal. It is too short to be able to use the needed cores for these type power levels. So you are left with a compromise converter, spacing the trans back, or a custom bell. Just another reason to go with the 400. In an application such as this.....DO YOUR HOMEWORK and if nobody else is using the 727 setup, there is a reason

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I seemed to have touched a nerve somewhere....


So if a person were to go the cheppy TH400 route, how does the starter mount and does it have to shimmed?


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: 1000+HP blown Hemi who makes a727 for it? [Re: Dragula] #1621315
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I seemed to have touched a nerve somewhere....


So if a person were to go the cheppy TH400 route, how does the starter mount and does it have to shimmed?




I have a JW bell on mine and the stock starter starter bolts up in the stock location. (I have 2 shims in it). The whole adapter comes from JW with everything you need. Like monte posted its not just about the trans its also about being able to put the right size converter in there


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I seemed to have touched a nerve somewhere....


So if a person were to go the cheppy TH400 route, how does the starter mount and does it have to shimmed?


It's not so much about the "cheapy" TH400 route.

You still need good internals, but there a numerous advantages, including the choice of aftermarket cases, converter choices, as well as a possible cost advantage all things being equal and the starter is a non-issue with the correct bell.

If you were building a 1000+hp N/A project, looking for the last bit of ET, I'd wager many of the people here recommending 400s would be steering you towards a Proflite (including me), but in your application, the 400/2.10 is tough to beat for all the reasons stated.

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