ARP 240-7302 converter to flexplate bolt torque?
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Upgrading to a new torque converter, bought the ARP 7/16" bolt kit, this is ARP part# 240-7302. Called-in to get the torque specs because the on-line web site page does not have them listed. Was told I need to torque these to 60 ft-lbs...wow...that seems like a LOT...want to get a feel for what everyone else has done here?
I am using the ARP Super-lube, was told to put this under the bolt head only and use Blue loctite on the threads, which is what I did on my previous install, worked out great that way.
This is on a SB 360, B&M offset weight flexplate, Dynamic 9.5" converter.
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Re: ARP 240-7302 converter to flexplate bolt torque?
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05/03/14 11:28 AM
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The std torque for the (6) OE flexplate to crank bolts is 55 ft lbs. The (4) small plate to converter bolts are 200 inch for 5/16" bolts & no way will they take 60 foot lbs. either the guy was messing with you or he inadvertantly looked at the plate to crank bolt spec & if the lube was used on the threads (which it should not) it'd make you crank it even tighter (its slippery) before it reached 60 & they'd very likely snap at 60 with or without lube. Call him back & have him recheck
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Re: ARP 240-7302 converter to flexplate bolt torque?
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...The (4) small plate to converter bolts are 200 inch for 5/16" bolts & no way will they take 60 foot lbs....
I agree, if this was the 5/16" bolt that 60 flt-lbs would be too much, the correct ARP torque for the 5/16" kit (part# 240-7301) is 30 ft-lbs.
...but the bolts I have are the 7/16" pieces...and even then the 60 ft-lbs just seems like a lot...I'm probably just overthinking this since the bolt only attaches to the converter mounting pad...still, according to the published ARP specs on the general torque values even the 60 ft-lbs is less then their recommended torque for a general 7/16" fastener (see the attachement).
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Re: ARP 240-7302 converter to flexplate bolt torque?
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05/03/14 12:23 PM
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...60 is about right for 7/16 though. And have seen more than one with loosening bolts...
My first install of the smaller 5/16" did just as what you describe...a single bolt backed out enough for the head to start hitting the dust-shield...made for some funny racket for sure...and a pile of worry on my part for that afternoon! Fixed that with a re-do of all bolts and a Blue loctite on all threads...never a problem since.
Thanks for the feedback, the more I think about it the better the 60 ft-lbs starts looking...
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Re: ARP 240-7302 converter to flexplate bolt torque?
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05/03/14 12:34 PM
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My bad I missed that you said 7/16 rather than 5/16. yes blue loctite is highly recommended.
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Re: ARP 240-7302 converter to flexplate bolt torque?
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05/03/14 03:46 PM
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I wouldn't use the ARP lube, use red Loctite.
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Re: ARP 240-7302 converter to flexplate bolt torque?
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John is that ARP lube under the bolt head and red loctite on the threads?
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Re: ARP 240-7302 converter to flexplate bolt torque?
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05/03/14 05:27 PM
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I wouldn't use the ARP lube, use red Loctite.
ARP lube for under the bolt head only (I assume to minimize the friction of the head bolt against the flexplate and get a true reading for the threads engagement).
But RED Loctite??? Used BLUE on the current converter and even with the 5/16" it took a good pull with the wrench to get them out...doesn't the RED stuff require heat to disassemble?
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Re: ARP 240-7302 converter to flexplate bolt torque?
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05/03/14 07:22 PM
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I've been using red since day one on both 5/16" and 7/16" bolts and never had a problem removing the bolts.
Considering the number of posts here on converter bolts coming loose I'd say red (by itself) is the safe way to go.
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