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help me pick a tranny cooler #1612133 04/26/14 12:09 AM 04/26/14 12:09 AM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 85 ohio ffej OP member
ffej OP member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 85 ohio	what kind of tranny coolers are you guys running? i got a new tranny from crt and want to use protect my investment. are the cylinder style any good they look easy to find a place to mount(frame rail) or should i stick with the kind that are like small radiators. thanks

Re: help me pick a tranny cooler [Re: ffej] #1612134 04/26/14 12:40 AM 04/26/14 12:40 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	I hear the "stacked plate" types are the most efficient but to k.i.s.s. I'd get the largest regular type one that will fit in front of your radiator fins & you'l be fine if you get a large one & I plumb the hot fluid in to the top of the cooler just like hot coolant goes to the top of the radiator. A bit picky but that's me live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: help me pick a tranny cooler [Re: RapidRobert] #1612135 04/26/14 12:11 PM 04/26/14 12:11 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 85 ohio ffej OP member
ffej OP member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 85 ohio	thanks for the info do most usually also route the lines thru the radiator or just bypass it?

Re: help me pick a tranny cooler [Re: ffej] #1612136 04/26/14 12:17 PM 04/26/14 12:17 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,223 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,223 Bend,OR USA	Quote: thanks for the info do most usually also route the lines thru the radiator or just bypass it? I would keep it through the tranny heater for now, most foot brake race converters and trannys don't usualy get hot enough to use a auxilary tranny cooler If you don't have a tranny temp. gauge buy one now and see if you really need the extra cooler, if it runs under 240 F at peak don't add one ATF needs to be at 160 + F to start to work properly Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: help me pick a tranny cooler [Re: Cab_Burge] #1612137 04/26/14 01:07 PM 04/26/14 01:07 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,800 South Lyon MI S sleddinfool top fuel
sleddinfool top fuel S Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,800 South Lyon MI	I used one out of a ford super duty truck.. They are large and have mounting brackets on them... They are pricey through the dealer though. I bought my firs one for around a hundy in 04'.. Now my dealer cost is around 189.. I just pulled one at a pick and pull... Less then $15.00.. Kevin 71 gtx.....

Re: help me pick a tranny cooler [Re: ffej] #1612138 04/26/14 04:51 PM 04/26/14 04:51 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,274 Ontario.Canada C can.al pro stock
can.al pro stock C Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,274 Ontario.Canada	what are your build specs...are you sure you need an aux cooler?

Re: help me pick a tranny cooler [Re: can.al] #1612139 04/26/14 06:51 PM 04/26/14 06:51 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 85 ohio ffej OP member
ffej OP member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 85 ohio	its a crt prorace transmission it has the deep pan on it so mabey with the extra fluid capacity i wouldnt need an extra cooler? i guess i was under the impression the cooler the better and it helps extend the life.thanks for the help

Re: help me pick a tranny cooler [Re: RapidRobert] #1612140 04/26/14 08:07 PM 04/26/14 08:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands BigBlockMopar master
BigBlockMopar master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands	Quote: I plumb the hot fluid in to the top of the cooler just like hot coolant goes to the top of the radiator. A bit picky but that's me You can't compare the engine radiator to a transmission cooler that way. You'll want the transmission pressure line coming in from the lowest linefitting on the cooler to properly/quickly expell any air present in the cooler. With an engine radiator you indeed do want air to end up in the radiator as that's where the vent/cap is located. On a transmission the vent is in the transmission itself, not in the cooler. So that should be 'airless'. I reality it's probably not that serious as the line pressure and flow in a transmission cooler is usually high enough to always push out any air either way. My 2 cents anyway. BigBlockMopar.com

Re: help me pick a tranny cooler [Re: ffej] #1612141 04/27/14 12:28 PM 04/27/14 12:28 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 792 Earth R Rob C super stock
Rob C super stock R Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 792 Earth	I run the trans fluid into the stock cooler under the rad. Then to the cooler. Cooler the better for this fluid or any in an engine. Hard lines would be best to use. It is a lite extra money and time to bend them but worth the time in longevity. The lines I run out of the stock cooler go over the rad support to avoid road debrise. This is how it is done on the OE extra cooler on my '78 Cordoba that came with a 400 P code engine.

Re: help me pick a tranny cooler [Re: Rob C] #1612142 04/27/14 02:19 PM 04/27/14 02:19 PM
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ffej OP member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 85 ohio	thanks for the help i think ive got it figured out i love all the knowledge and ideas here

Re: help me pick a tranny cooler [Re: ffej] #1612143 04/27/14 04:17 PM 04/27/14 04:17 PM
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Darryls-Demon super stock D Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 795 Glendale Az	If you do not drive your car in the winter there is no reason to run the fluid through the radiator it will just warm the fluid back up. I use a B&M trans cooler on both of my street cars, its the largest one they sell. Both cars have 8 inch convertors and I drive both cars a fair amount, just drove my Challenger to Vegas for the MATs and put on over 600 miles. The trans fluid has about 4000 miles on it and looks like new. 8126071-IMG_1273.JPG (29 downloads)

Re: help me pick a tranny cooler [Re: ffej] #1612144 04/27/14 06:27 PM 04/27/14 06:27 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 222 morrisville, pa S skajm enthusiast
skajm enthusiast S Joined: May 2005 Posts: 222 morrisville, pa	How about a remote filter also

Re: help me pick a tranny cooler [Re: Rob C] #1612145 04/27/14 08:59 PM 04/27/14 08:59 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,223 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,223 Bend,OR USA	Quote: Then to the cooler. Cooler the better for this fluid or any in an engine. I beg to differ with you on the cooler the fluid the better comment, most ATF has additives in it that are based on general automotive use,based on 160 F operating temps according to Valvoline techs . I bought a new 1998 1/2 Ram 2500 24 valve CTD automatic with the trailer towing package, I installed several after market gauges including a tranny. temp gauge in it, that trucks tranny temps would never exceed 120 F when running empty, the most I ever saw was 230 F when towing my enclosed 24 ft. car trailer at 70+ MPH up the 17 mile long Baker Grade in SO CA Mojave desert in the middle of the day in August, 117 F outside air temps. The fluid would start to go darker as soon as I changed it in the winter or summer, I was told it was due to the fluid temps being to low I did notice the tranny fluid stay brighter if I changed it just before going to a race and back It would get darker after that driving it around town easy When it comes to lubricants warmer (140F+) is better than cooler(below that temps) All the dyno tuning I've done on motors show that they make more HP and torque with hot oil (160F+, the hotter with straight weight oil ) the more power they make Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: help me pick a tranny cooler [Re: Cab_Burge] #1612146 04/27/14 09:39 PM 04/27/14 09:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,431 SK,Canada gregsrt top fuel
gregsrt top fuel Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,431 SK,Canada	Pat at SMR Racing transmissions recommended Perma Cool. He said they have no pressure drop. Also no rubber lines, steel or I used PTFE braided lines. http://perma-cool.com/ Last edited by gregsrt; 04/28/14 04:02 AM. An association of men who will not quarrel with one another is a thing which has never yet existed, from the greatest confederacy of nations down to a town meeting or a vestry. Thomas Jefferson

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