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Update: making progress on color change #1601994 04/02/14 05:21 AM 04/02/14 05:21 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe OP master
roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	I've been looking for quite some time, but I hadn't been able to close a deal for various reasons. Most recently I had to put about $3k into my daily driver so I thought my truck hunting had come to an end. Then I found this one. I only paid $1500 for it. Its an '89 with 318, 2wd, all stock, still has working factory radio, heat/defroster work, a/c needs servicing, I think a charge and some seals will do it. Nothing is hacked up on the truck. Body is solid with only some surface rust here and there, and there are two punctures on the bed rail that look like nail holes. No other issues that I could see. I need to look at the rear end/gears. Nice and solid all the way around. He had already done the brakes with new rotors, pads, drums, shoes, and wheel cylinders, didn't replace the calipers. He also replaced plugs, wires, rotor/cap, valve cover gaskets, headlights. All stuff that I would have had to do, so at this price having it already done is a plus. The water pump went out and I think he was tired of putting time into it so that's where I come in. I put the new water pump in today and did oil and filter. She runs nice and smooth, quiet, and ran just fine on my test drive. Interior is in pretty good shape too. Im ready to tear into it. My original plan was to find something that I would do in Satin Black with gloss black accents, like the DODGE on the tailgate, maybe some kind of accent stripe. I really liked a members car that I saw years ago (Exit1985 or something like that) who had a satin black RR IIRC, with two gloss black racing stipes. Now Im thinking that I really like this Charcoal Gray color. We'll see. Either way, I plan on following the steps in the infamous "paintjobon a budget" thread. OK, heres the pics. roe Last edited by roe; 04/15/14 08:50 AM. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Finally got me a PU [Re: roe] #1601995 04/02/14 05:27 AM 04/02/14 05:27 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe OP master
roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	I'll try to remember to post pics of the bed, bed rail (where those two punctures are), and engine bay. roe 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Finally got me a PU [Re: roe] #1601996 04/02/14 10:27 AM 04/02/14 10:27 AM
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,570 Sunny South Florida Golden-Arm I Live Here
Golden-Arm I Live Here Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,570 Sunny South Florida	sweet score. be sure to get the area above the windshield fixed up. the pinched seam, trim and gutter holds water, an rots them out. even if you can't afford to paint the whole truck, get the cab roof done, once you've cleaned it up, and made it watertight. "When Tyranny Becomes Law, Rebellion Becomes Duty"

Re: Finally got me a PU [Re: Golden-Arm] #1601997 04/02/14 11:26 AM 04/02/14 11:26 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida S scratchnfotraction I Live Here
scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	SWEEEETT!!!! nice score Roe..you are a moparts truck owner now..welcome. the gray lloks good when repainted or a gun metal gray is nice on them..I dig the flat hotrod black with gloss black stripes.

Re: Finally got me a PU [Re: roe] #1601998 04/02/14 02:13 PM 04/02/14 02:13 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,999 Salem Grizzly Moparts Proctologist
Grizzly Moparts Proctologist Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,999 Salem	Oh yeah, that'll do! Good game plan on the paint scheme, that's what I have in mind for mine. Best bang for your buck on these is to go electric fan, throw away the catalytic convertor, and true duals: You'll get another 1 to 2mpg and it won't feel choked up anymore. After that, it's all a matter of personal taste. D250 control arms to lower it, take a leaf out of the back to soften it up a bit, sway bars, flat black your grill, Ramcharger seats/console, maybe a 360 with J heads, the list goes on for what I want to do with mine. Have a look at Your steering coupler if there's some play in the steering wheel, it's a weak spot on these trucks. Mo' Farts Moderated by "tbagger".

Re: Finally got me a PU [Re: Grizzly] #1601999 04/02/14 02:27 PM 04/02/14 02:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe OP master
roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Thanks guys. I'll definitely try to get the stuff above the windshield tackled first. So far there doesn't appear to be any major issue there, but I have to investigate further. Is there a seam sealer that you guys recommend? Something I can paint right over? I'll look at the steering coupler too, but it feels nice and tight while driving. I plan on ditching the catalytic converter and running true duals with a H-pipe. If I can get some headers from a guy who was selling a truck, then I'll throw them in as well, or maybe some shorties. If not, I think I'll be fine just running the exhaust off of the manifolds. While replacing the water pump I was mulling over whether to go electronic fans or just replace the the clutch. Also, I don't know if I'm going to mess with the ride height. I kind of like where it is now. I'm going to do the suspension (there's a missing strut rod bushing) and drive it a while though before I decide. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Finally got me a PU [Re: roe] #1602000 04/03/14 10:32 AM 04/03/14 10:32 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida S scratchnfotraction I Live Here
scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	the saddle tank down the driver side inside frame is the pisser for duels..they have to run over to the pass side then back to the axle,up and over then split to each side. I just removed my duels like this and moved the tank to the rear by using a 69 mustang gas tank, the sender work a dodge fuel guage and it mad room for a nice short set of 2.5 duels turn out in front of the rear tires for headers you will want the hedman heeders 79080 they are low cost and fit well, have the ball/cone collector down low for no leaks. the hedman 79170 will work also and are 2x & 4x4 headers. if you where closer I have the headers, pipes with collectors bent to go over to pass side and back with 2-10 yr old 2.5" glass packs that sound really good. that's 1/2 of a set of duels still in good shape.

Re: Finally got me a PU [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1602001 04/03/14 11:34 AM 04/03/14 11:34 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,291 Kent, Wa 340SHORTY Truck Nut
340SHORTY Truck Nut Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,291 Kent, Wa	remember you have a TBI engine. You cant go crazy with mods. A good single 2.5 system with a Hooker Aero Chamber muffler will be more than ample and sound great. I am truckless..

Re: Finally got me a PU [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1602002 04/03/14 01:59 PM 04/03/14 01:59 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe OP master
roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Yeah, I was wondering how far I can go with performance mods with the tbi. How much power can it support? I plan on keeping all of the tbi system in place, and trying to make this a daily driver that sounds good too. I read the thread about the Mustang tank/sender, but I'm probably going to leave the stock tank. So I think my exhaust ticket is going to most likely be manifolds, but I'm strongly considering shorties, 2.5" pipe into a 1 in 2 out muffler with duals out the back behind the tires. I had it like this on the truck I sold and it sounded pretty good. If I were still in FL I would pick up the stuff from you that you just pulled off. But I guess I'll take care of the exhaust after I deal with the suspension. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Finally got me a PU [Re: roe] #1602003 04/03/14 02:02 PM 04/03/14 02:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe OP master
roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	I also plan on taking a wknd to wire wheel and paint the frame and suspension parts. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Finally got me a PU [Re: roe] #1602004 04/03/14 02:16 PM 04/03/14 02:16 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,291 Kent, Wa 340SHORTY Truck Nut
340SHORTY Truck Nut Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,291 Kent, Wa	with the TBI/computer as they are about all you can do is try some 360 injectors and possibly a 360 computer. The 360 computer has a different timing and fuel curve than the 318 computer. HP wise your about maxed out as it sits. Some lower gears in the rear will help also. I am truckless..

Re: Finally got me a PU [Re: 340SHORTY] #1602005 04/03/14 02:50 PM 04/03/14 02:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe OP master
roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	That's a little disappointing not not a big deal. I was never planning on trying to make a lot of power with this thing. Just a nice solid driver. So I think it just cements my plan to do an exhaust system, maybe some shorty headers, single in dual out muffler for dual tips 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Finally got me a PU [Re: roe] #1602006 04/03/14 03:04 PM 04/03/14 03:04 PM
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basketcase master Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,831 east side of Ohio	now that's a sweet score. I have manifolds on mine with duals run on the passenger side. Decent fit and great sound. Dave 1981 Dodge D150 360 auto

Re: Finally got me a PU [Re: basketcase] #1602007 04/03/14 06:47 PM 04/03/14 06:47 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,325 Truckville, the capital of NY 85_Ram_4speed master
85_Ram_4speed master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,325 Truckville, the capital of NY	I don't think your going to say any gain going from manifolds to a shorty header IMO and my experience putting a set on. You will gain some with full length headers, but if this is going to be a daily/cruiser, lower RPM, manifolds will work just as well. Magnum ones flow a little better, but you need to do something with the kickdown linkage---at least I did (I put pacesetter shorties in place of stock magnum manifolds.) Outcast Dodge guy.

Re: Finally got me a PU [Re: 85_Ram_4speed] #1602008 04/04/14 03:54 AM 04/04/14 03:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas 70AARcuda master
70AARcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas	Nice truck..I bought a 88 d250 with 318 4 sp a few months ago for the same price..very clean.. Later this year I am going to dump the tbi and install a carb... Tony 70 AARCuda Vitamin C 71 Dart Swinger 360 10.318 @ 128.22(10-04-14 Bakersfield) 71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas) 71 Duster 408 (10.29 @ 127.86 3/16/19 Las Vegas)

Re: Finally got me a PU [Re: 70AARcuda] #1602009 04/04/14 11:26 AM 04/04/14 11:26 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,810 Between Houston & Galveston TX SattyNoCar Smarter than no class Flappergass by a mile
SattyNoCar Smarter than no class Flappergass by a mile Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,810 Between Houston & Galveston TX	NICE! As far as the tank, a tank from a Ramcharger can be made to fit (biggest hurdle is swapping crossmembers). Having the tank in back, rather than the side, gives the truck a better ride and makes duels a snap. Only downside is that it does away with the spare tire mount. If you used a tank from a same year Ramcharger, you would have the intank pump setup your TBI truck needs. John The dream is dead, long live the dream.......😥

Re: Finally got me a PU [Re: SattyNoCar] #1602010 04/05/14 12:04 AM 04/05/14 12:04 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe OP master
roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Quote: NICE! As far as the tank, a tank from a Ramcharger can be made to fit (biggest hurdle is swapping crossmembers). Having the tank in back, rather than the side, gives the truck a better ride and makes duels a snap. Only downside is that it does away with the spare tire mount. If you used a tank from a same year Ramcharger, you would have the intank pump setup your TBI truck needs. Thanks. I've learned the hard way if ain't broke, dont fix it, . Since I made myself keep this think simple/stock, I dont plan on moving the tank. It doesn't have any leaks and isnt causing me any issues, so Im not gonna touch it. Even though doing so would make it easier for true duals. Im just going to do a single 2.5" and split it after the mufflers dumping out the side behind the tires. And that way I can keep the spare tire as well. If I can get this thing be where I want it, then I can sell my late model daily driver, an '03 Lincoln LS. roe 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Color Scheme [Re: roe] #1602011 04/05/14 02:29 AM 04/05/14 02:29 AM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	I found the pic of the members car that I want to use his color scheme on my truck. It was member BlackWidow69, Exit1965. Exit also rolled his vehicle too though. Here is Blackwidows ride. 8102010-Blackwidow.jpg (195 downloads) 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Color Scheme [Re: roe] #1602012 04/05/14 07:58 PM 04/05/14 07:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,151 Cruising! Q QuickDodge super stock
QuickDodge super stock Q Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,151 Cruising!	Can the satin black be done with a roller? It seems like the process of sanding and then buffing it would turn it into a gloss finish. If you want to use an alkyd enamel, it would probably be best to spray a satin finish. It would be a good idea to try the satin on a test piece first to make certain the final outcome will be satisfactory.

Re: Color Scheme [Re: QuickDodge] #1602013 04/05/14 08:51 PM 04/05/14 08:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 269 Kansas wishing I was in Ohio S SeanD enthusiast
SeanD enthusiast S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 269 Kansas wishing I was in Ohio	That RR looks like they used that rubber coating(DIP). My son has looked into the stuff for his car.

Re: Color Scheme [Re: SeanD] #1602014 04/05/14 10:24 PM 04/05/14 10:24 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe OP master
roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	I've heard about that stuff but dont know anyone who's used it. The RR was rolled with Rustoleum and then he spraybomed the gloss black. Im going back and re-reading all 3 of those endless thread to brush up and gather all the tips and info I can before I start on the truck. But its either going to be his color combo which will require jambs and all. Or I will go with the Rustoleum Charcoal gray color in a gloss finish which will allow me to keep the factory grey in the jambs, etc... 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Color Scheme [Re: roe] #1602015 04/06/14 10:25 AM 04/06/14 10:25 AM
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bigblock340power master B Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,087 Elk Grove, Calif.	Nice score! Trucks, the other Mopar addiction!

Color change progress [Re: bigblock340power] #1602016 04/15/14 03:28 AM 04/15/14 03:28 AM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Well, I've started. I went with the flat white clean metal primer. It was cheaper. Here are some progress pics. Primer was applied straight from the can, body prepped with 220 on random orbital sander. All stripped down One of the bed rail that I have to fix a couple of small holes. I think Im just going to straighten the metal as much as possible, then do some expoxy to fill in, topped off with some filler to make it nice and smooth. Or just go straight to bondo/filler if its already close enough. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Color change progress [Re: roe] #1602017 04/15/14 03:29 AM 04/15/14 03:29 AM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Fenders and hood first. Next will be the cab. Then the bed. Primer is still drying in the pics. And this primer has me thinking that the truck would look really good in gloss white instead of the Charcoal Black that I plan on using. Not to mention it will hide dents and flaws better from my first ever attempt at body work. And in primer. Sorry for the crappy pics, it was dark and I was using my phone. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: roe] #1602018 04/21/14 10:39 PM 04/21/14 10:39 PM
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scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	looks like you got the dodge truck bug for sure now Roe. hardest thing to do is decide what you want to do..I changed my mind 3x before I got to put the yellow base coat on mine..went yellow at the last min at paint shop. then in the middle kept thinking I should have went another way on color...yellow/black is gonna be hard to pull off on a dodge truck.. but it came out looking great in my book...and I have the only yellow/black superbee 440 truck in my town. boy..those gator flags sure look a long way from home.

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1602019 04/22/14 07:14 PM 04/22/14 07:14 PM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Oh yeah, I dove right into this thing. I think I said the wrong color earlier, I meant charcoal gray, for the body, and the accent color will be black. I'm anxious to get this paint done so I can start driving this thing. I'm gonna stick with the gray for now, but if I don't like it, I can just paint it over again, the supplies are cheap enough. Once paint is done, I'll do the bed and rails in black bedliner, and then drive the wheels off of it. One thing I found out is that texans love their football. So I fly these flags to give them something to aspire to. Everyone needs a role model. roe 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: roe] #1602020 04/27/14 10:38 PM 04/27/14 10:38 PM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Update. After putting on 2 thick coats of unthinned primer to the fenders and hood, then sanding most of it back of, I decided to do 1 thinned coat to the whole truck. Full strength it builds quickly which is great for filling small surface imperfections. But too thick it takes longer to fully dry. Also, doing the primer help me get comfortable with the rolling technique. As I went along I got much better at laying down smooth coats and reducing roller lines. There are lines where my coats overlapped areas that had dried already. And I also think that I will see less roller marks on the color coats when the paint is thinned much thinner than I did the primer, and the paint doesn't dry as fast which will give me more time to work it. Pics: Question about this first pic. This guide that goes around the window is old and brittle, and needs to be replaced. Is this the part listed on page 11 of the LMC catalog under "front door glass and components"? ( http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/dc/t.aspx?Page=10 ) You can see the dent I need to fix just in front of the rear wheelwell. Darker white areas like at the top of the fender are where there was primer left after sanding it back smooth The lighter spots are where there is the thin coat of primer over areas that went lower than factory paint (metal/factory primer) After getting the whole thing in primer, I'm still thinking it might look really good in gloss white. But Im going to stick with the charcoal grey for now. I've been debating blacking this out with gloss black, but for now Im going to leave the factory gray. Its in great shape. Only two small spots where the paint was scratched off and there is surface rust. You can see them at the bottom. Im just going to sand those two areas and hit them with some of the charcoal gray. There is a small dent at the first D in Dodge, and another in the center/bottom of the tailgate. Im also deciding whether to paint the hitch black or body color. These are the two holes that I will bondo/feather, then primer back over on the drivers bed rail. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: roe] #1602021 06/01/14 07:42 PM 06/01/14 07:42 PM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Here is the next update. My first attempt at bondo/body filler. I watched a bunch of youtube videos, read some stuff online and gave it a shot. You can tell which ones I did first, and which ones I did after I had a little practice. All in all, I feel pretty well about it. Those first ones that were kind of globbed on because I was rushing, put in too much hardner, and mixed too much at once, I will sand down to see how they look, then apply another coat if I need to. Also, next time I'll definitely wear gloves. Can you guess which one I did first, getting better At the right side of this pic where the bondo starts, I actually found a little rust through that looked like a pin hole. Cleaned it up did what you see here. I understand its better to weld in new metal, but... now I've got it I'll post some pics after sanding, then primer/sealer, then on to color. I think I have a chance at driving it next Monday. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: roe] #1602022 06/01/14 08:14 PM 06/01/14 08:14 PM
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shanker master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,783 Corpus Christi, TX	Props to you for getting your hands dirty and doing the job yourself...it feels good doesn't it.. just a tip from another hobbyist; there are MUCH easier to work with plastic fillers that can be bought (and most of the time for cheaper) from your nearest Automotive Paint Supply store.. Bondo (the name brand stuff); isn't that easy to work with compared to say Rage II Extreme. at least to me anyway. The Federal Government has not yet learned that you cannot legislate morality 1970 Coronet R/T FF4/FF8/V85/V1G 440/Auto/3.23 1970 Coronet R/T FK5/FK5/V8W/V1W 440/Auto/3.55 1970 Super Bee TX9/TX9/V8W/N96 383/Auto/3.91 1975 Duster 360 VS29L5 Daily Driver

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: shanker] #1602023 06/02/14 10:36 AM 06/02/14 10:36 AM
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scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	LOOKIN GOOD!!! thats how I did my first one. jump right in and try it. best thing about filler is you can sand it back off and do it over if it does not turn out right. only way to learn is to do it for yourself. I would have done the same on the roof pin hole. that area is always in need of inspection. same for under the drip rail above rubber gasket on the pinch weld. thanks for the update on it Roe. Last edited by scratchnfotraction; 06/02/14 06:45 PM.

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: roe] #1602024 06/02/14 12:30 PM 06/02/14 12:30 PM
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moparpollack Lil Herman Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 15,118 85086	Sand three to four inches away from the dent you are trying to fill. If you bondo up to primer it will shrink and show a spot. 56 Plaza 63 D100 step side 67 Coronet, 68 Roadrunner, 69 Super Bees, 69 Coronet 500 convertible, 70 Roadrunner Post, 79 D150 360, and a severe case of Mopar a,d,d

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: roe] #1602025 06/02/14 01:53 PM 06/02/14 01:53 PM
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Golden-Arm I Live Here Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,570 Sunny South Florida	are you still in florida? those houses make me think of texas. keep sanding, then sand some more. you can never get enough sanding in, you know. "When Tyranny Becomes Law, Rebellion Becomes Duty"

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: shanker] #1602026 06/02/14 09:29 PM 06/02/14 09:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe OP master
roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Shanker: it does feel good, I've always liked to try and as much as possible so I can learn more. This is definitely a learning experience. This bondo is definitely tough to sand. I'll look into trying another brand once this can is gone. Something easier to sand would be welcomed with open arms. Scratchin: no problem on the update. You asking about it actually made me want to work on it some more. Moparpollack: thanks for the tip, I'll remember that as I move forward to try and make this look as good as possible. Golden Arm: after my first round of filler I know what you mean about the sanding. I'm actually in TX now so you were spot on about the houses. I just can't seem to change my profile to say TX instead of FL. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: roe] #1602027 06/18/14 10:37 PM 06/18/14 10:37 PM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Well, here is the next update. Its a little behind schedule, but that's whats great about this method. If time constraints pop up, then you can just wait and continue when you are able. This is after 1 coat to the entire body. In spots where coats overlapped, I think Im going to really like the color, its a nice deep, dark gray. I don't think the roller lines will be a problem for 2 reasons. 1. Everyone elses progress pics that I saw pretty much had the same look on the first 2-3 coats. 2. Im getting better at avoiding them all together. I can see bigger and bigger areas without the roller marks as I get better. Finally, I see that I am no bodyman, . I was able to make a lot of dents less noticeable, but definitely not perfect. And I missed a couple of dents as well. But I don't need it to be perfect either, and Im NOT backtracking now to try and fix them. Anywho, heres the pics... There was a really noticeable dent right in front of the rear wheelwell. I will either pull and paint the cowl vent panel, or pull another at the junk yard, prep and paint, then swap them out. When I get full coverage I can see this having a nice gloss in it. Dent in the bottom/middle of the tailgate made much less visible. Forgot about the one in the first D in Dodge. And with all the nooks and contours, this tailgate is a pain in the butt to paint. As of right now the strip at the bottom of the truck will be painted gloss black. May even do black bedliner when I do the bed. This is the bedrail that I patched a couple of holes up with Bondo. Turned out pretty well. Im also think Im going to try painting the coats in alternating directions. So this coat was vertical, Im going to do the next one horizontal. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: roe] #1602028 06/21/14 11:44 PM 06/21/14 11:44 PM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Coat #2. Im really liking this color. Starting to get full coverage now, and the depth and gloss is pretty impressive with just a natural finish. The coats dry very hard very quickly because of the thinness of each layer, and after 2 coats the orange peel is about the same as my 2013 Durango. Well, heres pics... check out the gloss and reflection with just the natural finish See my shotty attempt at repairing some dents in the front of the roofline. straight on pic a little closer Inside the jamb is factory color with metallic in it, where you see the vehicle reflection is the Rustoleum color. They're close enough to where I don't plan on painting the jams. The run you see at the top of the pic is the only one I've noticed on the car so far. It came from paint that built up and ran down the drip rail. Ironic huh? closeup another closeup. You can see the texture in the far right of the pic. Compare the orange peel to that of the next pic of my Durango's paint. Durango Last edited by roe; 06/22/14 12:11 AM. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: roe] #1602029 06/21/14 11:58 PM 06/21/14 11:58 PM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	I was supposed to put another coat on today, but I want to let the paint bake in the sun. I tried today but it has been overcast all day long. Also, Im at the point where Im supposed to wetsand and then apply two more coats. But Im really worried about burning through the paint with all of these edges and curves, especially on the tail gate. We'll see how it turns out. I think without wetsanding the peel would be too much for my liking, so Im going to try it. I figure that with the wetsanding I will have to do 4 more coats and call it a day. Then I can do the gloss black around the bottom edge of the truck, and Im going to do the roll on bedliner for the bed and bed rails. Last step for the exterior is to try again to track down 4 of the 20" steelies that come as full size spares on the new Rams. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: roe] #1602030 06/22/14 12:34 AM 06/22/14 12:34 AM
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scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	I would use a scotchbrite pad to scuff the glossy shine and recoat it, the scuff pad will help keep you from burning thur like you mention. I see you and the truck across the road,,I say that is a glossy shine right there. the more coats and scuffing inbetween coats should come out nice as it builds and thickens. You Sir, have motivated me to give it a try on my truck. I only have the hood/2-front fenders/2-doors/2-rear fenders with the cab/bed done inside & out in the spray on bed liner.

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1602031 06/22/14 12:42 AM 06/22/14 12:42 AM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Quote: I would use a scotchbrite pad to scuff the glossy shine and recoat it, the scuff pad will help keep you from burning thur like you mention. I see you and the truck across the road,,I say that is a glossy shine right there. the more coats and scuffing inbetween coats should come out nice as it builds and thickens. You Sir, have motivated me to give it a try on my truck. I only have the hood/2-front fenders/2-doors/2-rear fenders with the cab/bed done inside & out in the spray on bed liner. Thanks for the sanding tip, the less I burn through the smoother this process will go for me. I saw where you sprayed your truck in bedliner. If you have the tools/place to spray this paint I would. The process for guys who sprayed was the same except a little more tape work. They even still thinned it with mineral spirits, and only had to do 2 coats instead of 6 or 8. Rolling has been great for me because I've been able to stop and go as necessary with no worries. But it would have been much easier and faster if I could spray it. The next time I do this, I will be trying to spray it. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: roe] #1602032 06/22/14 01:19 AM 06/22/14 01:19 AM
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Golden-Arm I Live Here Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,570 Sunny South Florida	did i miss it, where you said what color the rockers will be? doesn't look like you painted them. "When Tyranny Becomes Law, Rebellion Becomes Duty"

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: Golden-Arm] #1602033 06/22/14 01:24 AM 06/22/14 01:24 AM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Quote: did i miss it, where you said what color the rockers will be? doesn't look like you painted them. They'll be gloss black, as will the DODGE on the tailgate. I've also toyed with the idea of doing a butt stripe as well. I wasn't worried about a clean line where the two colors meet on the sides because it will be under the trim. I will use a tape line when I do the black paint though because I need a clean color line at the front and rear ends of the side trim. Last edited by roe; 06/22/14 01:31 AM. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: roe] #1602034 06/22/14 01:27 AM 06/22/14 01:27 AM
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Golden-Arm I Live Here Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,570 Sunny South Florida	just like mine!! "When Tyranny Becomes Law, Rebellion Becomes Duty"

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: Golden-Arm] #1602035 06/22/14 01:43 AM 06/22/14 01:43 AM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	I didn't see this pic until after I had decided on a color, but I like the look of this truck. It belongs to a member here, coronet1966d. I thought about blacking my grill and bumpers out, but decided against it. I can always do it later if I change my mind. I like the look of his truck though. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: roe] #1602036 06/25/14 01:04 AM 06/25/14 01:04 AM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Great news. I stopped next to a body shop to take a look at a dog house that was for sale. Bought the dog house and started chatting with a guy wearing a t short with the logo on it from the body shop. Figured he worked there. Told him about how I was interested in learning paint and body, that I was working on a truck, yada yada and small talk. Nice guy. Turns out he's the owner and he offered to let me come in on the weekends to learn the trade, teach me some tricks etc. I'm pumped, can't wait. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: roe] #1602037 08/24/14 04:46 PM 08/24/14 04:46 PM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Next update. Finally had a chance to put in some more work. This is coat #3 after doing some sanding. I sanded too aggressively in a couple of spots and went too low so you'll see that, especially where I was trying to sand away a run by my passenger door. I think I'm going to be a lot less aggressive sanding from here on out and either stay away from edges as I knock down the little orange peel that I get, or not even worry about orange peel and only scuff it enough for the paint to grab every two layers. Starting to get better coverage and I figured out how to get better coats with less roller lines. Before I was working smaller areas maybe 36x36" as I worked my way around the truck. That particular area was really smooth but you would see lines from area to area because of the paint starting to set. This time I would work really fast to cover an entire panel then go back over to knock down bubbles/level the paint. It made for much better smoothness and uniformity on the panels without that segmented look. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: roe] #1602038 09/05/14 12:13 AM 09/05/14 12:13 AM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Next update. Here is after coat 4 with everything prepped to do the black accent at the bottom of the body, and the DODGE on the tailgate. Im still deciding on a butt stripe as well. Im leaning towards yes... It was late so I just took these to show the prep work. I haven't decided if Im going to do another coat of gray to the body or not. It looks good but because I was less aggressive with my sanding, there is a pretty good level of orange peel. Not a lot, about equal to the factory job on modern cars. Its just that I know that I can get it smoother if I want to, which will make my final buffing/polishing turn out a better shine/reflection. Im just so ready to drive it that I don't wanna wait. Decisions.... Im either going to leave it like it is, or go back and wetsand with 600 grit, then one final coat. This black should go really fast because its such a small area, I can get 2 coats in per day about 12 hours apart. Then I can move on to the rustoleum roll on bedliner, and I want to have my sliding back glass replaced with a one piece. Overall I think Im leaning towards sanding and doing one more coat of gray with less peel. Oh, and I still have to do the cowl vent. This part was time consuming, taping it up and then cutting the letters out with a razor blade was nerve wracking. I'd never done anything similar to this. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: roe] #1602039 09/05/14 03:22 PM 09/05/14 03:22 PM
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Golden-Arm I Live Here Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,570 Sunny South Florida	don't know if you know, but you can get decals for the letters. looking good, and don't sweat the 'peel, it will go away with some cut & buff action. "When Tyranny Becomes Law, Rebellion Becomes Duty"

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: Golden-Arm] #1602040 09/05/14 09:18 PM 09/05/14 09:18 PM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Haha, no I didn't know that. Might have kept me from being so nervous as I cut away the tape. All I kept picturing was my hand slipping and leaving a long slice in my nice paint 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: roe] #1602041 09/06/14 01:58 PM 09/06/14 01:58 PM
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Golden-Arm I Live Here Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,570 Sunny South Florida	i know the feeling. on my last li'l red express truck, i repainted the dodge letters on the grill, using the same method you used on the tailgate. i also did the black bars, between the horizontal grill pieces. it was like, 3 hours of taping and cutting, for 2 minutes of painting. "When Tyranny Becomes Law, Rebellion Becomes Duty"

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: Golden-Arm] #1602042 09/09/14 12:57 AM 09/09/14 12:57 AM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Ok, here are some pics of the truck as it sits now. So far Im happy with the results. The finish right now is without sanding, polishing or waxing. Its just the natural gloss of the paint. Im probably going to lightly sand and hit the black with two more coats, then see where it stands. But so far Im happy with my $100 paintjob. From this: To this: Its funny how much getting the black on there made the truck look so much more complete. Those are cloud reflections you see, not paint issues. I'll try to get some pics while its still sunny out. Cloud reflections This is the worst spot on the truck. I had sprayed the body line with spray bomb to get in there, and a 10 minutes later while rolling I forgot and rolled back over it and it caused the paint to wrinkle. Next up is rolling on some Rustoleum bedliner. This whole truck is going to be the product of rustoleum products and a roller 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: roe] #1602043 09/09/14 04:02 PM 09/09/14 04:02 PM
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scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	swweeettt!!! I see you in the door reflection..I thought you would have been taller. that's some pretty good reflections, I know the pics dull it down some but I bet it is real nice up close.

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1602044 09/09/14 07:36 PM 09/09/14 07:36 PM
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72d100 master Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,235 Marion Illinois	thats pretty impressive for rustoluem and a roller

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: 72d100] #1602045 09/09/14 07:57 PM 09/09/14 07:57 PM
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Golden-Arm I Live Here Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,570 Sunny South Florida	i'm wondering if it's rustoleum topsider. we've been painting boats with it down here, and if you follow the directions exactly, it comes put looking like a sprayed paint. "When Tyranny Becomes Law, Rebellion Becomes Duty"

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1602046 09/10/14 12:07 AM 09/10/14 12:07 AM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Thanks guys. Its been fun learning and trying this method. Best of all it let's me get this truck looking better very cheaply. Right now I'm in this truck for $1500 purchase price and $100 in paint supplies, and about $70 for 2 used tires. It looks really good in person. And because I can touch it up whenever at no cost I won't worry about driving it anywhere or doing anything in it. As far as the paint its just rustoleum from Home Depot. I used their clean metal primer over the whole truck, the gray is standard rustoleum, and the black is the rustoleum professional. I wanted to get them the same but I had to order the gray and didn't realize it was the standard stuff. But its all worked out so far. I didn't expect it to look this good but I'm glad it does. I can't wait to see what the cut, buff and wax makes it look like. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602047 09/22/14 12:21 AM 09/22/14 12:21 AM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Well here are some pics after working on it all day yesterday. I would have more done but I was layed up all day with naseau/vomiting/diarrhea . Please excuse the grass, today was yard day but because of the NVD I didn't get to it. I still need to paint the cowl vent panel,re-install the bumpers, add the chrome drip rail molding, and do the bed in rustoleum. Then I'll start on the interior. Im going to keep it burgundy. The dash is pretty nice so I'll either clean up my door panels and dye them with aerosol stuff from the parts store, or pull some better ones from the J/Y and do the same. Then I'll just shampoo and detail it really well and drive the wheels off. And I want to have a one piece rear glass put in. Im going to have to stop myself so I don't sink more money into this than I planned on. Im really excited about how the trim came out. The metal portion was really, really bad looking. It was yellowed, and dirty. I honestly didn't think that it would come clean. But I mixed some dawn dish soap with some Purple Power, and used a red scothbrite pad to scrub it and with some elbow grease they came out nice. Just have to hit it with some polish now. Ok, Im done babbling now: 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602048 09/22/14 03:19 AM 09/22/14 03:19 AM
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76dodgeboy master Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 8,064 Iowa	Good Color Combo!

Re: Update: almost done [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1602049 09/22/14 11:15 PM 09/22/14 11:15 PM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Quote: Good Color Combo! Thanks. I'm really digging it too. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602050 09/23/14 08:48 AM 09/23/14 08:48 AM
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scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	hope you feel better soon. the big 3 is never fun. that thing looks better every new pic you post.

Re: Update: almost done [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1602051 09/23/14 09:10 PM 09/23/14 09:10 PM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Quote: hope you feel better soon. the big 3 is never fun. that thing looks better every new pic you post. Thanks. It was some kind of 24hr bug. It was rough but was over quickly. I can't wait till this wknd so I can finish it up. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602052 09/23/14 09:27 PM 09/23/14 09:27 PM
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SattyNoCar Smarter than no class Flappergass by a mile Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,810 Between Houston & Galveston TX	Wow Roe! That REALLY looks good! John The dream is dead, long live the dream.......😥

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602053 09/23/14 09:49 PM 09/23/14 09:49 PM
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basketcase master Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,831 east side of Ohio	what time can I drop my truck off? It's only a shortbed, so you can probably knock that off in no time. I'll take the grey too Dave 1981 Dodge D150 360 auto

Re: Update: almost done [Re: basketcase] #1602054 09/23/14 10:10 PM 09/23/14 10:10 PM
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rickstershemi master Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida	That paint job is frigg'n amazing.....roller...need to ck into that system.....WOW Rickster

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602055 09/23/14 10:23 PM 09/23/14 10:23 PM
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WO23Coronet master Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,254 Canada	Good Lord does that look nice! I've heard of the rustoleum/roller paint job but never paid to much attention

Re: Update: almost done [Re: WO23Coronet] #1602056 09/23/14 11:22 PM 09/23/14 11:22 PM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Thanks guys. The compliments really make me proud that I did it myself. I can't wait to finish it up and start driving. I'm really hoping to get the bed done after re-hanging the bumpers this wknd, then clean and detail the interior. I did notice though that more stuff seems out of place against the fresh paint. Like the mirrors and door handles. The paint makes me want to order new parts for it, but I'm staying strong. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602057 09/24/14 03:35 PM 09/24/14 03:35 PM
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Jwilli500 top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,077 Oklahoma City	Rockauto lists new "Outside Door Handles" just over $11ea. + shipping... My son ordered some and they look pretty nice. Quote: I did notice though that more stuff seems out of place against the fresh paint. Like the mirrors and door handles. The paint makes me want to order new parts for it, but I'm staying strong.

Re: Update: almost done [Re: Jwilli500] #1602058 09/24/14 10:02 PM 09/24/14 10:02 PM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Quote: Rockauto lists new "Outside Door Handles" just over $11ea. + shipping... My son ordered some and they look pretty nice. Quote: I did notice though that more stuff seems out of place against the fresh paint. Like the mirrors and door handles. The paint makes me want to order new parts for it, but I'm staying strong. $11 a piece But as soon as I do I will have to get mirrors too. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602059 09/25/14 12:20 AM 09/25/14 12:20 AM
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moparmandjh mopar Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 550 SW Missouri	Can't wait to see pics with bumpers and grill, VERY NICE JOB! American soldiers in battle don't fight for what some president says on tv, they don't fight for mom, apple pie, or the American flag... they fight for one another. -Lt. General Hal Moore

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602060 09/25/14 10:33 AM 09/25/14 10:33 AM
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scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	Quote: Quote: Rockauto lists new "Outside Door Handles" just over $11ea. + shipping... My son ordered some and they look pretty nice. Quote: I did notice though that more stuff seems out of place against the fresh paint. Like the mirrors and door handles. The paint makes me want to order new parts for it, but I'm staying strong. $11 a piece But as soon as I do I will have to get mirrors too. speedway has some 4" peep mirrors that clamp on the door edge for $15 each. then you have to replace the rear view with a billet flame mirror for $35... and then it needs..

Re: Update: almost done [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1602061 09/25/14 03:36 PM 09/25/14 03:36 PM
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Jwilli500 top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,077 Oklahoma City	That's why they're never really finished.

Re: Update: almost done [Re: Jwilli500] #1602062 09/26/14 01:55 AM 09/26/14 01:55 AM
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300by500 master Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,886 Bowling Green KY / Nashville, ...	Very impressive! Looks awesome! https://i.imgur.com/tmuGzov.jpg

Re: Update: almost done [Re: 300by500] #1602063 09/28/14 11:29 PM 09/28/14 11:29 PM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	I made a little more progress today. It was late so I only took two crappy pics. I got the bumpers back on and put on the chrome drip rail molding. I need to paint my rear bumper, the little flat/step portion in front of the tag. I'll sand it and paint it black. While going on my test drive I starting pouring oil from under the truck so I limped it home. The oil pressure switch took a dump and was pushing oil out the top of the senser where the plug goes in. Luckily O'Reilly's had one in stock. Autozone and Advance both had to order it. I need to adjust the front bumper down a little. I actually need to replace it because of a couple of huge dents on it. J/Y here I come. This is why I like working on older vehicles. The wife snapped this one. You don't have enough space in new cars for an arm, much less climbing in there. Then she thought it would be cool to snap this one. You gotta start them out early... 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602064 09/29/14 12:51 AM 09/29/14 12:51 AM
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SattyNoCar Smarter than no class Flappergass by a mile Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,810 Between Houston & Galveston TX	Awwww....... John The dream is dead, long live the dream.......😥

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602065 09/29/14 01:37 AM 09/29/14 01:37 AM
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basketcase master Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,831 east side of Ohio	my youngest daughter has always been a good helper. All I had to do was describe to her what the tool looked like, and what drawer it was in and she saved me many trips from under the truck or sitting under the hood. Dave 1981 Dodge D150 360 auto

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602066 09/29/14 03:20 PM 09/29/14 03:20 PM
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Jwilli500 top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,077 Oklahoma City	Your wife is correct, that is cool.

Re: Update: almost done [Re: Jwilli500] #1602067 09/29/14 08:11 PM 09/29/14 08:11 PM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Quote: Your wife is correct, that is cool. The thing that let me know the wife was the one was while we were still dating I needed a door to the sibling to my sig car. I needed a drivers door and some LCA's with sway bar tab and swaybar. We drove up from Gainesville to Jerry's in Starke, FL and she was all about getting in and getting her hands dirty, crawling up under the rusty hulks and seeing what I was doing. I knew she was a keeper. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602068 09/30/14 08:21 PM 09/30/14 08:21 PM
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jcruse64 enthusiast J Joined: May 2014 Posts: 206 Paducah, KY USA Earth	Very nice work! You are a blessed man!

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602069 09/30/14 11:51 PM 09/30/14 11:51 PM
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300by500 master Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,886 Bowling Green KY / Nashville, ...	Quote: Then she thought it would be cool to snap this one. You gotta start them out early... Gotta love the helpers! https://i.imgur.com/tmuGzov.jpg

Re: Update: almost done [Re: jcruse64] #1602070 10/01/14 07:59 PM 10/01/14 07:59 PM
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440newport master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,587 St. John's Newfoundland	Very nice job on the paint. I did the same method on an Oldsmobile I had a few years ago. I might give it another try on my current truck after seeing your pics.

Re: Update: almost done [Re: 440newport] #1602071 10/01/14 09:48 PM 10/01/14 09:48 PM
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moparmandjh mopar Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 550 SW Missouri	Daylight pics!!! American soldiers in battle don't fight for what some president says on tv, they don't fight for mom, apple pie, or the American flag... they fight for one another. -Lt. General Hal Moore

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602072 10/01/14 10:28 PM 10/01/14 10:28 PM
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Shoozy I have a foot fetish S Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 9,654 Southern by Choice	Dang Roe - truck looks great, kid looks great, you, um..... Agreed that we need daylight pics, nice job man. Old, tired, and sometimes broke down. Me, not my car...

Re: Update: almost done [Re: Shoozy] #1602073 10/02/14 01:01 AM 10/02/14 01:01 AM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Quote: Dang Roe - truck looks great, kid looks great, you, um..... Agreed that we need daylight pics, nice job man. I'll get some daylight pics up this weekend. I'll give it a good wash prior, and I'll likely do the bedliner early Saturday morning so you should see pics of it complete. I'm just counting the days now. I'm going to give the paint about 3 months to continue curing and then do a cut and buff then wax to see just how glossy I can get it. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: making progress on color change [Re: roe] #1602074 10/06/14 10:27 PM 10/06/14 10:27 PM
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moparmojo master Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,587 missouri, USA	Hey nice work. It's great to see unique approaches to getting the job done.

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602075 10/12/14 10:14 PM 10/12/14 10:14 PM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	A little later than I planned on, but here are the next updates. This is as Im applying the first coat and after hours of sanding and prep work. I didn't try to fix any dents or anything. I did hammer out the wheel well humps where they were caved in. This is after 2 coats. Im happy with the finish. It looks good and Im happy with my lines. The clean release painters tape with line lock performed as advertised. Still need to paint my cowl vent. I tried pulling one at the j/y to paint but all of the ones with the mounting spot for the wiper sprayer were all dented up. So I will just pull and paint this one. I also need to paint the rear bumper, the little flat pad in front of the tag. I was going to do gloss black, but now Im just gonna use some of the leftover bedliner. The j/y has a truck in now with a really nice set of bumpers on it. They want $90 for the set. Im thinking of pulling the trigger on that one. They also have lots of vans with much nicer door handles than mine. If they are cheap enough I'll get those too. I also need to paint the grill insert and keep my eyes open for a grill that's not all dented up and some nice headlight surrounds. The j/y didn't have any good ones. And finally some pics that you guys asked for of how she sits today. The sun came out for 5 mins today so I snapped these really quickly.

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602076 10/12/14 11:13 PM 10/12/14 11:13 PM
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79powerwagon Too Many Posts 7 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,728 places	Well done!

Re: Update: almost done [Re: 79powerwagon] #1602077 10/13/14 08:18 PM 10/13/14 08:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe OP master
roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Thanks, heres a couple of pics after getting my badging back on, and after a coat of Nu Finish, no sanding of buffing. And I saw this sitting at a tire shop here. I guess they just use it as a sign holder. Nothing saying it was for sale...just a banner hanging on the passenger side for used tires. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602078 10/14/14 02:19 AM 10/14/14 02:19 AM
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Mopar Trucks member M Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 12 Missouri	I've been lurking on this site for a long time and finally joined mostly spurred on by your thread. I have an 86, 90, 91 D-150 and a 1963 Utiline and the 91 is currently in my shop getting body work done (slow going but progressing). I'm going to do the same type of paint job you did on it except in IH red. Great job and I have really enjoyed watching your progress and getting some tips. I haven't painted a car since HS and that was 37 years ago.

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602079 10/14/14 09:32 PM 10/14/14 09:32 PM
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old_goat Six Abuser Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,652 Amarillo, Tx	You really need to ge some die cut letters done that say: I painted it with a roller! For the back window or bumper...... Great job!! 84 D150 440/727 79 /6 swb D150 1964 A100 window van. Just because it has spark plug tubes doesn't mean it's a Hemi. If ya haven't been there, ya just wouldn't understand.

Re: Update: almost done [Re: old_goat] #1602080 10/14/14 10:22 PM 10/14/14 10:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe OP master
roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Thanks guys. I will post some more pics after I tackle the interior. Cleaning, detailing and maybe dyeing some pieces. And I will likely pick up those nice bumpers from the j/y and some nicer door handles I saw too if they are cheap enough, and finally I want a solid rear glass. Mopar Truck: thanks for the compliments. That's how I felt about some of the guys before me who painted theirs. If you really want some more tips on the painting use the Google feature in this site and look up "paintjob on a budget". There's three of them and they have thousands of posts on techniques and tips and progress/results pics. It's what I used as my guide. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602081 10/15/14 02:45 AM 10/15/14 02:45 AM
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Mopar Trucks member M Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 12 Missouri	I've read them all through and through Roe (by the way; is that for Rules of Engagement? I'm retired Army). I bought a new front bumper (and other parts) from Autopartswarehouse.com (a bit less than $200)and they have been great. I bought a new grill from them for my 86 and it looked better than the original likely ever was. I do have a question though, I noticed that you were missing one of the rear lower trim pieces in one pic but it was on in your last finished pics. Where did you get it and where did you get the clips? I am missing one piece from my 90 and I if I cant find it I am going to have to just delete them and grind off the mounting nubs.

Re: Update: almost done [Re: Mopar Trucks] #1602082 10/15/14 07:49 AM 10/15/14 07:49 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe OP master
roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Ok, I wasn't sure if you had seen them or not. No Roe is just my last name, but my Drill SGT's had fun with it at basic. I've been in pushing 5 yrs now. For the trim piece are you talking about the piece on the cab, the really small curved piece. If so I pulled it and all of the clips for the rest of my trim from the j/y. If you need one let me know and I can keep my eyes peeled the next time I go out there. I'd just need to know if it's driver or passenger side. Last edited by roe; 10/15/14 07:51 AM. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602083 10/16/14 11:58 PM 10/16/14 11:58 PM
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Mopar Trucks member M Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 12 Missouri	I bet the DIs did have fun with your name! I will just keep looking in the junkyard for the trim and clips. So far what I have found clip wise are so brittle they break when you try and use them so I was hoping you found a source of new ones.

Re: Update: almost done [Re: Mopar Trucks] #1602084 10/17/14 12:37 AM 10/17/14 12:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe OP master
roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Quote: I bet the DIs did have fun with your name! I will just keep looking in the junkyard for the trim and clips. So far what I have found clip wise are so brittle they break when you try and use them so I was hoping you found a source of new ones. Yeah. It's funny too because at one point, three of us were in the same company at my current unit. Are names are ROE, ERB AND AKO. Anyone who's in now would find that pretty funny. We even took a pic together. Someone here said that you can get the clips from the dealer still. They even posted the part#, I'll see if I can find it. They were so cheap at the j/y though that I just grabbed lots of them and sifted through to find the best ones and used them. But there are probably 6 or 7 of these trucks at my local yard and I can look for the piece for you and hook you up. Pay it forward, you know. Guys on here have helped me many times. Had a fuel pressure regulator show up in the mail when I didn't know what they were. A copy of Vanishing Point because I had never seen it. Now it's my turn. So just let me know if driver or passenger and I'll keep an eye out and help out a fellow MOPARTS member if I can. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602085 10/17/14 10:29 AM 10/17/14 10:29 AM
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scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	MOPARTS = members helping members way to pay it forward Roe.

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602086 10/17/14 12:40 PM 10/17/14 12:40 PM
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DusterJeff mopar D Joined: May 2009 Posts: 618 Vesper,Wisconsin U.S.A	Nice paint job on your truck..Drive it and ENJOY it...You EARNED IT!!! Do Something..Lead..Follow..or get the {Beep} out of the way..

Re: Update: almost done [Re: DusterJeff] #1602087 10/17/14 11:20 PM 10/17/14 11:20 PM
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moparmandjh mopar Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 550 SW Missouri	Damn that's nice!! American soldiers in battle don't fight for what some president says on tv, they don't fight for mom, apple pie, or the American flag... they fight for one another. -Lt. General Hal Moore

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602088 10/19/14 01:42 AM 10/19/14 01:42 AM
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Mopar Trucks member M Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 12 Missouri	Hey thanks Roe, I need the passenger side door trim piece and if you ever come across them I need a cargo light lens cover and an interior dome light cover. They are just cheap plastic but scarcer then hens teeth. For some reason not too many 1st Gens are around here in the pick and pulls (Missouri Ozarks not too far from Ft Leonard Wood). If you ever come across them I will send you the cost plus postage and some of the Mrs Blackberry jam.

Re: Update: almost done [Re: Mopar Trucks] #1602089 10/19/14 03:34 AM 10/19/14 03:34 AM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Quote: Hey thanks Roe, I need the passenger side door trim piece and if you ever come across them I need a cargo light lens cover and an interior dome light cover. They are just cheap plastic but scarcer then hens teeth. For some reason not too many 1st Gens are around here in the pick and pulls (Missouri Ozarks not too far from Ft Leonard Wood). If you ever come across them I will send you the cost plus postage and some of the Mrs Blackberry jam. OK. I want to make sure I'm looking for the right piece. Is it the long straight piece that runs along the passenger door, or the short curved piece that is on the cab in that little section between the door and the bed? And does your truck take the same cargo light lens cover as I have on my '89 in the pics? If so I already have one. Dome light I haven't seen but will keep my eyes peeled. Don't worry about the cost.i think i paid $50 for a full set of trim with clips and the wheel well moldings. Ia also paid $50 for a very nice full sized tool box. They price for that part would be nil. I do love me some jam though. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602090 10/19/14 09:47 AM 10/19/14 09:47 AM
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scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	I have a dome lens you can have.

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602091 10/20/14 11:31 PM 10/20/14 11:31 PM
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Mopar Trucks member M Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 12 Missouri	What can I say except what an awesome site and bunch of guys. It is the long piece that goes along the bottom of the door of my 90 LB. This is a pic from when I first bought it: The cargo and dome light is for my 86, I dont know if you can see it in this pic but I believe they are all the same: I bought the 86 first when I first retired a few years ago as a project and dropped a rebuilt 318 in it then the 90 (blue one in the picture above) was supposed to be a parts truck but I got it running like new and its my DD for the past 2 years, then I ended up at an auction and picked up a cherry 91 SB for $1200 that I am going to paint using the roller method after some minor body work and then a few months ago I ended up with a 63 Utiline with a cherry body and a stuck engine for $800. I have a tolerant wife!

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602092 10/20/14 11:43 PM 10/20/14 11:43 PM
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Mopar Trucks member M Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 12 Missouri	I meant to tell you, if your going to redo your grill, Duplicolor graphite high performance wheel coating is an almost exact match for the argent color and looks pretty good on the inside of the grills and the headlight buckets.

Re: Update: almost done [Re: Mopar Trucks] #1602093 10/21/14 01:15 AM 10/21/14 01:15 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe OP master
roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Quote: I meant to tell you, if your going to redo your grill, Duplicolor graphite high performance wheel coating is an almost exact match for the argent color and looks pretty good on the inside of the grills and the headlight buckets. It sounds like you came across a few really good buys. I'll have to keep that it mind for the paint, thanks for the tip. I'm hoping to get that painted this wknd. And I'm also getting the cowl vent blasted this wknd so that I can paint it. Do you have any pics of your 91. I really like the front ends on those. That cargo light is the same. And I've seen many of those trim pieces in nice shape, including the truck I pulled my clips from. It should be in the bed still. I'm headed to the j/y this wknd so I'll see for ya. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602094 10/21/14 05:58 AM 10/21/14 05:58 AM
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Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,358 Las Vegas	Looking good...Like to see cool projects and IMO this is one of them. "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602095 10/22/14 10:02 PM 10/22/14 10:02 PM
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Mopar Trucks member M Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 12 Missouri	Thanks Roe. Here is a picture of my 91. It was a FD maintenance contact truck that was always stored inside a climate controlled building so no rust and the maintenance was kept up on it; even the window seals are like new. Its just a 3.9 V6 auto so its no speed demon but it will be a nice parts runner when I am done with it. There was a funky dent in the rt front quarter so I am in the middle of replacing it and prepping for paint. as she sits in my shop right now

Re: Update: almost done [Re: Mopar Trucks] #1602096 10/25/14 10:48 PM 10/25/14 10:48 PM
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roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	I went to the j/y today and unfortunately they crushed that truck already. They never crush them that fast. They also crushed the one that had the mint front and rear bumpers that I went to get. They had a rMcharger there but it was missing the piece you need. They get them in pretty often so I'll check when I head back. Wish I had known sooner as I could've grabbed it when I removed it to get the clips and tossed them all in the bed. I do have the cargo piece though. Its yours if yo want it. Here's the pic... 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: almost done [Re: roe] #1602097 11/03/14 03:09 PM 11/03/14 03:09 PM
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Mopar Trucks member M Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 12 Missouri	Quote: I went to the j/y today and unfortunately they crushed that truck already. They never crush them that fast. They also crushed the one that had the mint front and rear bumpers that I went to get. They had a rMcharger there but it was missing the piece you need. They get them in pretty often so I'll check when I head back. Wish I had known sooner as I could've grabbed it when I removed it to get the clips and tossed them all in the bed. I do have the cargo piece though. Its yours if yo want it. Here's the pic... The cargo light would be great Roe, I just have not been able to find one locally.

Re: Update: almost done [Re: Mopar Trucks] #1602098 11/04/14 03:25 AM 11/04/14 03:25 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe OP master
roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Quote: Quote: I went to the j/y today and unfortunately they crushed that truck already. They never crush them that fast. They also crushed the one that had the mint front and rear bumpers that I went to get. They had a rMcharger there but it was missing the piece you need. They get them in pretty often so I'll check when I head back. Wish I had known sooner as I could've grabbed it when I removed it to get the clips and tossed them all in the bed. I do have the cargo piece though. Its yours if yo want it. Here's the pic... The cargo light would be great Roe, I just have not been able to find one locally. OK just shoot me a PM and I'll send it over 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Update: almost done [Re: Mopar Trucks] #1602099 11/27/14 01:19 AM 11/27/14 01:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe OP master
roe OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	I went back to the j/y and was able to snag that trim piece for you when I grabbed me a grill and bumper. I just finished up with some training that had me away from home for a little while. If you get that PM out to me I can get the cargo light and trim piece to you. Ill post a pic of it tomorrow with better lighting Last edited by roe; 12/19/14 12:20 AM. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

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