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Camshaft Installed Center Line question. #1590975 03/10/14 03:00 PM 03/10/14 03:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,255 Columbus, GA Michael Ecks OP pro stock
Michael Ecks OP pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,255 Columbus, GA	I just bought a Lunati Voodoo camshaft to replace the damaged old comp cams stick in my 360. The voodoo cam lists a LSA of 112 and an ICL of 108, which I realized and it shows on the cam card as 4 degrees advanced. Does this mean that if I use the crank and cam sprocket "dot-to-dot" as a baseline for installing it, that is ground to be set up close to set up there without using the 4 dgree advanced keyway in the sprocket? Or does it mean they recommend installing it at four degrees advanced using the crank sprocket keyway to get 108, but "dot-to-dot" would put it at 112. I know it needs to be properly degree-ed in to be sure. Just wondering where to start as far as setting it up. "The happiness of your life depends upon the quality of your thoughts" ~ Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: Michael Ecks] #1590976 03/10/14 03:05 PM 03/10/14 03:05 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,161 CT GTX MATT master
GTX MATT master Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,161 CT	In a perfect world you would need to advance it four degrees from dot to dot. However, dot to dot will pretty much never put a cam at the actual "straight up" position. In a perfect world dot to dot would be a 112 ICL with that cam. BUT who knows what the cam manufacturer did, and what the timing set manufacturer did. Thats why you need to degree it. I always start with a "0" degree advance setting (aka dot to dot) and check the timing. If its not right try your advanced options. Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: GTX MATT] #1590977 03/10/14 03:13 PM 03/10/14 03:13 PM
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80fbody mopar 8 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 596 Mass.	Not sure I follow GTX Matt on this. Usually the cams come with the 4 degrees "ground in" so if you install dot to dot it should be around 108 in your case. Still need to check though.

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: Michael Ecks] #1590978 03/10/14 03:16 PM 03/10/14 03:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,785 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,785 Rio Linda, CA	Every cam that I've checked recently was 4� advanced when installed dot-to-dot. I've always assumed this was to compensate for chain stretch. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: Michael Ecks] #1590979 03/10/14 03:28 PM 03/10/14 03:28 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: I just bought a Lunati Voodoo camshaft to replace the damaged old comp cams stick in my 360. The voodoo cam lists a LSA of 112 and an ICL of 108, which I realized and it shows on the cam card as 4 degrees advanced. Does this mean that if I use the crank and cam sprocket "dot-to-dot" as a baseline for installing it, that is ground to be set up close to set up there without using the 4 dgree advanced keyway in the sprocket? Or does it mean they recommend installing it at four degrees advanced using the crank sprocket keyway to get 108, but "dot-to-dot" would put it at 112. I know it needs to be properly degree-ed in to be sure. Just wondering where to start as far as setting it up. If you put it in dot to dot ( and that is where you should start )and everything else is on the money, it will read 112 and 108 on your degree wheel. No need for an offset key if you want to put it in per the cam specs - which is also a good place to start. Keep in mind this is an automatic 4 degree cam advance web sight . Fastest 300

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: 80fbody] #1590980 03/10/14 03:58 PM 03/10/14 03:58 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,161 CT GTX MATT master
GTX MATT master Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,161 CT	Quote: Not sure I follow GTX Matt on this. Usually the cams come with the 4 degrees "ground in" so if you install dot to dot it should be around 108 in your case. Still need to check though. Sure, it MAY have four degrees ground in either on purpose of by error. Depending on whos timing set your using, it may also have 6, or 2, or -5. In an ideal world though, straight up would be straight up. Last edited by GTX MATT; 03/10/14 03:59 PM. Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: Michael Ecks] #1590981 03/10/14 07:16 PM 03/10/14 07:16 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Dont even try to do the dot to dot... you will never know what you have... degree it in... and if this is a street car advance it more than the 108... 104 would be better for the low end torque... even 102 EDIT To the manu... 108 is straight up... all they do is move the key way 4* from the 112 Last edited by MR_P_BODY; 03/10/14 07:20 PM.

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1590982 03/10/14 08:07 PM 03/10/14 08:07 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Dont even try to do the dot to dot... you will never know what you have... degree it in... and if this is a street car advance it more than the 108... 104 would be better for the low end torque... even 102 EDIT To the manu... 108 is straight up... all they do is move the key way 4* from the 112 When you put the cam, gears , and chain in you need a starting point ( BEFORE YOU START DEGREEING IT IN ). Dot to dot is your starting point. Quite often, you will find ( WHEN YOU START DEGREEING IT IN ), that you will be on the cam spec numbers - or very close. You can make your adjustments form there. As I said, this is a 4 degree advance web sight. I disagree with that approach for several reasons. 1. I'm not as smart as the cam designers. 2.I don't own a WEEGEE board. 3. If you did your home work correctly regarding choosing a cam, you shouldn't have to advance / retard it to make it work better. At least start with it in per the cam card. Then, if you are not happy with it, change it. If you run the motor in and get some compression readings it will be a good place to start. Then when you start moving the cam around, you can see how it might effect the compression readings. Generally, if they start to drop off, you went the wrong way ( or too far) advancing it. If you have to advance it 4-6 degrees for street use, you bought the wrong cam. Fastest 300

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1590983 03/10/14 08:19 PM 03/10/14 08:19 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,157 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,157 Bend,OR USA	Quote: Dont even try to do the dot to dot... you will never know what you have... degree it in... and if this is a street car advance it more than the 108... 104 would be better for the low end torque... even 102 EDIT To the manu... 108 is straight up... all they do is move the key way 4* from the 112 Never, EVER take anything thing on motors for granted, NEVER I've seen cams that where ground 8 degrees retarded I've seen timing sets marked no where near accurate Take your time and slide that rascal in on the two O marks, line the dots up and check the lifter timing at .050 lifter rise first, that will tell you if your close If not adjust(move the crank gear to another location, advanced or retarded, and recheck it Always verify everything with after market parts, if you don't Mr Murphy will take a big old bite out of your Butt, you know he will At least he does that to me regularily Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: Cab_Burge] #1590984 03/10/14 08:42 PM 03/10/14 08:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,392 nielsville, minn. Q quickd100 master
quickd100 master Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,392 nielsville, minn.	Quote: Quote: Dont even try to do the dot to dot... you will never know what you have... degree it in... and if this is a street car advance it more than the 108... 104 would be better for the low end torque... even 102 EDIT To the manu... 108 is straight up... all they do is move the key way 4* from the 112 Never, EVER take anything thing on motors for granted, NEVER I've seen cams that where ground 8 degrees retarded I've seen timing sets marked no where near accurate Take your time and slide that rascal in on the two O marks, line the dots up and check the lifter timing at .050 lifter rise first, that will tell you if your close If not adjust(move the crank gear to another location, advanced or retarded, and recheck it Always verify everything with after market parts, if you don't Mr Murphy will take a big old bite out of your Butt, you know he will At least he does that to me regularily I agree, the last cam I checked was the one in my napa rebuild 318. The guy had installed it dot to dot. The cam had a centerline of 110, dot to dot it was in at 113. The motor had zip for compression to begin with, retarding the cam surely didn't help matters.Dave

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: Crizila] #1590985 03/10/14 09:19 PM 03/10/14 09:19 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: Dont even try to do the dot to dot... you will never know what you have... degree it in... and if this is a street car advance it more than the 108... 104 would be better for the low end torque... even 102 EDIT To the manu... 108 is straight up... all they do is move the key way 4* from the 112 When you put the cam, gears , and chain in you need a starting point ( BEFORE YOU START DEGREEING IT IN ). Dot to dot is your starting point. Quite often, you will find ( WHEN YOU START DEGREEING IT IN ), that you will be on the cam spec numbers - or very close. You can make your adjustments form there. As I said, this is a 4 degree advance web sight. I disagree with that approach for several reasons. 1. I'm not as smart as the cam designers. 2.I don't own a WEEGEE board. 3. If you did your home work correctly regarding choosing a cam, you shouldn't have to advance / retard it to make it work better. At least start with it in per the cam card. Then, if you are not happy with it, change it. If you run the motor in and get some compression readings it will be a good place to start. Then when you start moving the cam around, you can see how it might effect the compression readings. Generally, if they start to drop off, you went the wrong way ( or too far) advancing it. If you have to advance it 4-6 degrees for street use, you bought the wrong cam. Theres only one problem doing it that way... being a street car once its in and it runs... he will NEVER move the cam to see if its better or not.. I have never seen a guy change the C/L on a street car as long as it ran(I am not talking about a racers street car but the average street car guy)

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1590986 03/10/14 09:42 PM 03/10/14 09:42 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Quote: Quote: Dont even try to do the dot to dot... you will never know what you have... degree it in... and if this is a street car advance it more than the 108... 104 would be better for the low end torque... even 102 EDIT To the manu... 108 is straight up... all they do is move the key way 4* from the 112 When you put the cam, gears , and chain in you need a starting point ( BEFORE YOU START DEGREEING IT IN ). Dot to dot is your starting point. Quite often, you will find ( WHEN YOU START DEGREEING IT IN ), that you will be on the cam spec numbers - or very close. You can make your adjustments form there. As I said, this is a 4 degree advance web sight. I disagree with that approach for several reasons. 1. I'm not as smart as the cam designers. 2.I don't own a WEEGEE board. 3. If you did your home work correctly regarding choosing a cam, you shouldn't have to advance / retard it to make it work better. At least start with it in per the cam card. Then, if you are not happy with it, change it. If you run the motor in and get some compression readings it will be a good place to start. Then when you start moving the cam around, you can see how it might effect the compression readings. Generally, if they start to drop off, you went the wrong way ( or too far) advancing it. If you have to advance it 4-6 degrees for street use, you bought the wrong cam. Theres only one problem doing it that way... being a street car once its in and it runs... he will NEVER move the cam to see if its better or not.. I have never seen a guy change the C/L on a street car as long as it ran(I am not talking about a racers street car but the average street car guy) Well - - then he will never know - - and it doesn't really matter if he does or not. I, personally, would rather put it in to spec than guessing that it needs another 4 degrees of advance - even if it's an "educated" guess. As far a compensating for wear goes, I would hope that the cam Mfgs / designers have given that some thought also. Fastest 300

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: Crizila] #1590987 03/10/14 10:27 PM 03/10/14 10:27 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,161 CT GTX MATT master
GTX MATT master Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,161 CT	Quote: If you have to advance it 4-6 degrees for street use, you bought the wrong cam. The cam designers are often recommending a 4-6 degree advanced installed centerline Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: GTX MATT] #1590988 03/10/14 11:24 PM 03/10/14 11:24 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Quote: If you have to advance it 4-6 degrees for street use, you bought the wrong cam. The cam designers are often recommending a 4-6 degree advanced installed centerline Must be in pretty small print on the cam card. Fastest 300

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: Crizila] #1590989 03/11/14 12:28 AM 03/11/14 12:28 AM
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,981 SE Michigan TS3303 top fuel
TS3303 top fuel Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,981 SE Michigan	you guys are confusing the OP's numbers. The LSA is 112 not the ICL. If all the manufacturing tolerances are correct for the cam, dowel, sprockets, chain, crank keyway.... The ICL would be 108� BUT without seeing the raw cam card numbers who knows. IMHO no camshaft should ever be put in without a degree wheel. I think cam companies recommend the 4� advance is because the vehicle is always heavier than thought, has less compression, less stall, less gear, etc. They've adjusted for end user optimism

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: Crizila] #1590990 03/11/14 12:58 AM 03/11/14 12:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Quote: Quote: Quote: If you have to advance it 4-6 degrees for street use, you bought the wrong cam. The cam designers are often recommending a 4-6 degree advanced installed centerline Must be in pretty small print on the cam card. Comp Cams, gives a ICL of 4* advanced for all thier cams, or on some its ground in. Mopar Cams recommend 2* advanced on All their cams. Advancing the cam is not just a Moparts thing. Further, its a way to make up for chain stretch and also make a high performance cam more streetable. The cam companies, agree and have now been grinding the advance in. Whats that tell you? Further ive run Smaller cams ,but have run better with bigger cams advanced. Ive never liked the Quote, "That if you have to advance your cam 4, you need a Smaller cam" Its flat out wrong. Now make that Quote 10, Im with you. Last edited by Sport440; 03/11/14 01:01 AM.

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: TS3303] #1590991 03/11/14 02:00 AM 03/11/14 02:00 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Quote: you guys are confusing the OP's numbers. The LSA is 112 not the ICL. If all the manufacturing tolerances are correct for the cam, dowel, sprockets, chain, crank keyway.... The ICL would be 108� BUT without seeing the raw cam card numbers who knows. IMHO no camshaft should ever be put in without a degree wheel. I think cam companies recommend the 4� advance is because the vehicle is always heavier than thought, has less compression, less stall, less gear, etc. They've adjusted for end user optimism I agree that you see alot of people confuse the Lobe Seperation Angle (LSA) with the Installed Centerline (ICL) and get the cam in wrong. But you should always degree the cam as just manufactors tolorances can have it off some and unless you degree it you will never know where it really is and if your leaving some performance on the table. Ron

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: Michael Ecks] #1590992 03/11/14 02:15 AM 03/11/14 02:15 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Quote: I just bought a Lunati Voodoo camshaft to replace the damaged old comp cams stick in my 360. The voodoo cam lists a LSA of 112 and an ICL of 108, which I realized and it shows on the cam card as 4 degrees advanced. Does this mean that if I use the crank and cam sprocket "dot-to-dot" as a baseline for installing it, that is ground to be set up close to set up there without using the 4 dgree advanced keyway in the sprocket? Or does it mean they recommend installing it at four degrees advanced using the crank sprocket keyway to get 108, but "dot-to-dot" would put it at 112. I know it needs to be properly degree-ed in to be sure. Just wondering where to start as far as setting it up. It depends whether or not Lunati grinds thier cams with 4* advance in them. If they do, Dot to Dot is the start. If they dont, the 4* advance Keyway will be the start. Then, Degree and Adjust from there!! Also, you may consider your "overall combo" and adjust further or less based on your experience.

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: Crizila] #1590993 03/11/14 02:44 AM 03/11/14 02:44 AM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,161 CT GTX MATT master
GTX MATT master Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,161 CT	Quote: Quote: Quote: If you have to advance it 4-6 degrees for street use, you bought the wrong cam. The cam designers are often recommending a 4-6 degree advanced installed centerline Must be in pretty small print on the cam card. Look at any of Comp Cams 110 degree LSA cams, almost every one of them has a recommended intake centerline angle of 106 degrees, AKA 4 degrees advanced. Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: Sport440] #1590994 03/11/14 02:46 AM 03/11/14 02:46 AM
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GTX MATT master Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,161 CT	Quote: Ive never liked the Quote, "That if you have to advance your cam 4, you need a Smaller cam" Its flat out wrong. Now make that Quote 10, Im with you. Exactly Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: GTX MATT] #1590995 03/11/14 09:22 AM 03/11/14 09:22 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 596 Mass. 8 80fbody mopar
80fbody mopar 8 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 596 Mass.	Quote: Look at any of Comp Cams 110 degree LSA cams, almost every one of them has a recommended intake centerline angle of 106 degrees, AKA 4 degrees advanced. My comp roller is exactly as GTX said. Dot to Dot came in a 106. The advance is figured in already. So the OP's cam may come in at 104 when lined up.

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: 80fbody] #1590996 03/11/14 09:37 AM 03/11/14 09:37 AM
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Dodgeguy101 mopar D Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 632 MD-USA	Quote: Quote: Look at any of Comp Cams 110 degree LSA cams, almost every one of them has a recommended intake centerline angle of 106 degrees, AKA 4 degrees advanced. My comp roller is exactly as GTX said. Dot to Dot came in a 106. The advance is figured in already. So the OP's cam may come in at 104 when lined up. I would say you got lucky.

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: Dodgeguy101] #1590997 03/11/14 11:54 AM 03/11/14 11:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,996 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart master
gregsdart master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,996 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	The last cam I did I got a surprise. It was way off, and I had to retard it to get back to 103! Luckily, it was a pig of a 350 SBC that needed all the cylinder pressure it could get. So for my put it in straight up dot to dot, check it, then if it is a stock short block which tend to be low on compression, I would advance it to less than 108, maybe 104 as a starting point. If you think the cam is fairly modest for the surrounding parts, gears, etc, then try 108. For the most part, advanced won't hurt you as much as going retarded. 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: 80fbody] #1590998 03/11/14 11:57 AM 03/11/14 11:57 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Quote: Look at any of Comp Cams 110 degree LSA cams, almost every one of them has a recommended intake centerline angle of 106 degrees, AKA 4 degrees advanced. My comp roller is exactly as GTX said. Dot to Dot came in a 106. The advance is figured in already. So the OP's cam may come in at 104 when lined up. "The advance is figured in already" - and that is where a lot of the confusion comes in on this subject. That is also why you should start with the cam card specs when installing a cam - unless you have a SOLID, FACTUAL reason to deviate from it. Doing it automatically on every cam you install for the reasons listed in this thread aint good enough - for me. Those that do that will never know if they made improvements or not. JMO. I still like almost everyone here 8069850-camdegreeing.jpg (85 downloads) Fastest 300

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: Crizila] #1590999 03/11/14 12:17 PM 03/11/14 12:17 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,161 CT GTX MATT master
GTX MATT master Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,161 CT	Quote: Quote: Quote: Look at any of Comp Cams 110 degree LSA cams, almost every one of them has a recommended intake centerline angle of 106 degrees, AKA 4 degrees advanced. My comp roller is exactly as GTX said. Dot to Dot came in a 106. The advance is figured in already. So the OP's cam may come in at 104 when lined up. "The advance is figured in already" - and that is where a lot of the confusion comes in on this subject. That is also why you should start with the cam card specs when installing a cam - unless you have a SOLID, FACTUAL reason to deviate from it. Exactly, you don't know if the advance is figured in accurately. You need to check it. The bottom line is if the recommended ICL is 106, you should start at 106. Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: GTX MATT] #1591000 03/11/14 01:01 PM 03/11/14 01:01 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Look at any of Comp Cams 110 degree LSA cams, almost every one of them has a recommended intake centerline angle of 106 degrees, AKA 4 degrees advanced. My comp roller is exactly as GTX said. Dot to Dot came in a 106. The advance is figured in already. So the OP's cam may come in at 104 when lined up. "The advance is figured in already" - and that is where a lot of the confusion comes in on this subject. That is also why you should start with the cam card specs when installing a cam - unless you have a SOLID, FACTUAL reason to deviate from it. Exactly, you don't know if the advance is figured in accurately. You need to check it. The bottom line is if the recommended ICL is 106, you should start at 106. The reason I say advance it even farther is that any SB street car needs all the low end torque you can find and that is done by advancing it a bit more.. and I do understand that the ICL vs the LSA... the 108 is now the the zero point(it already has the 4* built in.. if you were to use the dot to dot with it at 0 it would come up to 108 not 112(if all the stuff is made right)

Re: Camshaft Installed Center Line question. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1591001 03/11/14 02:01 PM 03/11/14 02:01 PM
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B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	It's all simple math,using the split centerline method adjust cam timing to the MFGs designed specifications,then depending on your desired use or performance outcome you can adjust from there.This way you will be compensating for any and all variances in all the related componants used and the baseline starting point can be established and changes can be refrenced from that point. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

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