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Re: Cheap Single Stage paint? [Re: Powerflow] #1586273
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If you take it to Maaco, make sure you wash it really good... otherwise they'll paint right over the dirt. hahaha.

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1968 Plymouth Satellite (Un-Restored "Survivor")
1969 Dodge Charger (W.B. General Lee)
1969 Dodge Charger (Future DMCL Clone)
1969 Dodge Super Bee, 383 4spd
Re: Cheap Single Stage paint? [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #1586274
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Most stores that mix paint have a discount shelf with paint that was mixed and didnt match, sometimes very inexpensive to buy a decent paint.

Re: Cheap Single Stage paint? [Re: sthemi] #1586275
03/08/14 12:39 PM
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I'll preface this with "its just my humble opinion".......

you never said whether you were going to shoot it yourself or pay someone to do the job.....the paint regardless of the quality & price of it is the cheapest part of the job.

If your going to shoot it yourself why "cheap" out on paint & I dont mean only in price.

Its been suggested NOT to use products like Omni - never used it so cant say anything bout quality but I've heard the same about it before.

Are you willing to accept poor quality body work at this point that'll only last 2-3 years and if thats unacceptable at this point & you want quality body work but think you'll be saving $$ with "cheap" paint, why ??

If your cars been sanded sown to metal & the dents are being massaged out it doesnt take anymore time to do quality bodywork at that point, might as well do the good work now then put something decent on top.

Perhaps an upper half resto at this point will get you to where you want to be faster then a cheapy drive by spray job & a re-do in 4 years.......


All that said, some high quality paints for reasonable prices - ProSpray - talt to Chad @ http://www.autorodtechnologies.com/

http://www.southernpolyurethanes.com/ talk to BArry, I think he's even selling single stage paint again in some stock colors.

I've shot a bunch of misc colors of Martin Senour from NAPA, motorcycle, misc car parts, bicycle, etc... matter of fact the sidemarkers bezels on the 71 are in MS.

Anyways, good luck & some food for thought.

Re: Cheap Single Stage paint? [Re: edp] #1586276
03/08/14 03:33 PM
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I'll preface this with "its just my humble opinion".......

you never said whether you were going to shoot it yourself or pay someone to do the job.....the paint regardless of the quality & price of it is the cheapest part of the job.

If your going to shoot it yourself why "cheap" out on paint & I dont mean only in price.

Its been suggested NOT to use products like Omni - never used it so cant say anything bout quality but I've heard the same about it before.

Are you willing to accept poor quality body work at this point that'll only last 2-3 years and if thats unacceptable at this point & you want quality body work but think you'll be saving $$ with "cheap" paint, why ??

If your cars been sanded sown to metal & the dents are being massaged out it doesnt take anymore time to do quality bodywork at that point, might as well do the good work now then put something decent on top.

Perhaps an upper half resto at this point will get you to where you want to be faster then a cheapy drive by spray job & a re-do in 4 years.......


All that said, some high quality paints for reasonable prices - ProSpray - talt to Chad @ http://www.autorodtechnologies.com/

http://www.southernpolyurethanes.com/ talk to BArry, I think he's even selling single stage paint again in some stock colors.

I've shot a bunch of misc colors of Martin Senour from NAPA, motorcycle, misc car parts, bicycle, etc... matter of fact the sidemarkers bezels on the 71 are in MS.

Anyways, good luck & some food for thought.




I guess you can't read. I am having some of the big dents and damage repaired. I can leave it in primer till I do a complete restoration in a couple of years or shoot some cheap color on it for additional protection.


69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.
Re: Cheap Single Stage paint? [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #1586277
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Ive used TCP Globals house paint with good results

Re: Cheap Single Stage paint? [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #1586278
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"I guess you can't read. "

some peoples kids.

dont bother asking for advice if your unwilling to listen.......

Re: Cheap Single Stage paint? [Re: edp] #1586279
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"I guess you can't read. "

some peoples kids.

dont bother asking for advice if your unwilling to listen.......




Where did I ever say I was doing a full resto or doing shoddy bodywork? This car is still wearing it's original paint. According to you I need to do a full blown body and paint and as I stated that is not in my plans at this time.

This thread might help you understand what I'm trying to accomplish.

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...&fpart=alli

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Re: Cheap Single Stage paint? [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #1586280
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restos just aren't my thing
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Here's what I would do. Spend the money for a better quality base coat, then purchase an inexpensive clear coat system. The problem with cheap single stage is the amount of coats necessary for good coverage. You WILL use a lot of material. This turns into a full day of painting as well as a ton of build up (mills). Couple that with a metallic color, and you will have a car that is zebra striped to hell and back. A quality base will cover quick and allow you to step back and see the finished product. BTW, use a "stabilized" base so you won't move the metallic when applying the clear.


Restoring a car to look "only" as good as the factory made it is like getting a boob job for your wife and having the doctor make them two different sizes to seem more natural
Re: Cheap Single Stage paint? [Re: gtsuperbee] #1586281
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One more thing. I would still use a "wet on wet" sealer before shooting the base. On just the exterior, you should be able to cover that car with 2 quarts of quality base coat material. Original paint or not, it makes a huge difference.


Restoring a car to look "only" as good as the factory made it is like getting a boob job for your wife and having the doctor make them two different sizes to seem more natural
Re: Cheap Single Stage paint? [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #1586282
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"I guess you can't read. "

some peoples kids.

dont bother asking for advice if your unwilling to listen.......




Where did I ever say I was doing a full resto or doing shoddy bodywork? This car is still wearing it's original paint. According to you I need to do a full blown body and paint and as I stated that is not in my plans at this time.

This thread might help you understand what I'm trying to accomplish.

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...&fpart=alli




you asked about cheap paint, thats all you said. THen you expanded that to " I just want to get some color on it for a few years". What I suggested was far from a full resto, then you comment about leaving it in primer & out in the weather. Primer's not waterproof unless its epoxy, I also pre4faced my comments with "in my humble opinion" thus meaning I'm suggesting things your not asking for or about.

your post is so vague about your process and contradictory in some ways it seems like more info is better & not only for you but perhaps others reading about resto / paint process who want to do the same. Posting isn't an " its all about me" everytime, the info is for everyone sometimes especially when there's so much bad info about painting out there.

I'm sharing information from experience, not from fantasy but apparently all your interested is in "cheap paint" so buy the cheapest "omni", "shopline" or whatever primer you can find, do the bodywork & let it sit outside for a few years so the filler on top of the new body work under the cheap primer can absorb some moisture so you can have the pleasure of doing it all over again in a few years!

enjoy.......

Re: Cheap Single Stage paint? [Re: edp] #1586283
03/09/14 04:42 PM
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"I guess you can't read. "

some peoples kids.

dont bother asking for advice if your unwilling to listen.......




Where did I ever say I was doing a full resto or doing shoddy bodywork? This car is still wearing it's original paint. According to you I need to do a full blown body and paint and as I stated that is not in my plans at this time.

This thread might help you understand what I'm trying to accomplish.

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...&fpart=alli




you asked about cheap paint, thats all you said. THen you expanded that to " I just want to get some color on it for a few years". What I suggested was far from a full resto, then you comment about leaving it in primer & out in the weather. Primer's not waterproof unless its epoxy, I also pre4faced my comments with "in my humble opinion" thus meaning I'm suggesting things your not asking for or about.

your post is so vague about your process and contradictory in some ways it seems like more info is better & not only for you but perhaps others reading about resto / paint process who want to do the same. Posting isn't an " its all about me" everytime, the info is for everyone sometimes especially when there's so much bad info about painting out there.

I'm sharing information from experience, not from fantasy but apparently all your interested is in "cheap paint" so buy the cheapest "omni", "shopline" or whatever primer you can find, do the bodywork & let it sit outside for a few years so the filler on top of the new body work under the cheap primer can absorb some moisture so you can have the pleasure of doing it all over again in a few years!

enjoy.......




I didn't proof ready that one post, it will never sit outside and never be subjected to weather, none of my cars sit outside.Our cars don't rust here so leaving it in primer is an option. I have let bare metal sit in my garage for years without getting even a slight haze.

Paint would just be added protection, that's why I might even go with Maaco if they are cheap enough.


69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.
Re: Cheap Single Stage paint? [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #1586284
03/09/14 10:53 PM
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Instead of getting into a pissing match over cheap paint, just give me a call. As you know, I'm the king of cheap I'm on spring break this week, so I'm home working on my super Bee most of the week.
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Re: Cheap Single Stage paint? [Re: 2JcodeChargers] #1586285
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Went into the local Maaco today, their paint jobs range from $399 to $1199, a few cars sitting outside actually looked pretty good


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Re: Cheap Single Stage paint? [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #1586286
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I have been shooting cars with fulthane for several years now, It seems to being holding up very well. I had so many leftover partials, white, red, blue, yellow, etc. I mixed some together & sprayed my toyota. People ask for the color & I just say, 'your guess is as good as mine.'


Re: Cheap Single Stage paint? [Re: b54406barrel] #1586287
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Hey Dave I had a friend that used to get Macco paint jobs and then sand and rub them himself a month or two later and the cars were always pretty nice.
The real problem I think your going to have is getting the color close to look factory with a cheaper paint now adays.
Ron

Re: Cheap Single Stage paint? [Re: RJS] #1586288
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U-tech is a great product. It is the cheaper line from Sikkens

Re: Cheap Single Stage paint? [Re: b54406barrel] #1586289
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I have been shooting cars with fulthane for several years now, It seems to being holding up very well. I had so many leftover partials, white, red, blue, yellow, etc. I mixed some together & sprayed my toyota. People ask for the color & I just say, 'your guess is as good as mine.'






I've done the same thing!! Did it to this car

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Re: Cheap Single Stage paint? [Re: ChallengerGary] #1586290
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Just painted this with Fulthane single stage too

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Re: Cheap Single Stage paint? [Re: ChallengerGary] #1586291
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This is how deep the paint looks. That is my truck - a good 30-40 feet away

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Re: Cheap Single Stage paint? [Re: ChallengerGary] #1586292
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Ok here is my Find aPPG PLATINUM distributor they have to send their people to school every year for PAINT training they can give you options in your price range and the best bang for the buck. Thet do not sell hard parts so you will not get someone trying to sell you brake pads with that ,also PPG is not made in vat in a abandond building .People will complain about cost but PPG has options and is the largest paint manufacturer in the world and the technonogy is second to none . PS,no matter what you decide the paint will only look as good as the bodtwork and prep. Thanks Nick

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