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Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux
[Re: hemicop]
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02/17/14 01:23 PM
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I like it! So here's a question...........
Do you plan on making & selling these for A-bodies using using coilovers & retaining the stock, or stock-type LCA?
I don't know that I will. There's plenty of aftermarket suspensions on the market already.
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Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux
[Re: Stanton]
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02/17/14 04:44 PM
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Steff, beautiful work as always but I thought the intent of the rack was to use an oil pan that wasn't so deep and now it looks like the whole front k frame is just about as deep as the pan
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Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux
[Re: Stanton]
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02/17/14 04:51 PM
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A number replies back a member suggested gusseting the tube angle welds. I was not a proponent of that solution. However for argument's sake, RMS originally used a similar welded non gusseted tube design, and then later changed to a bent square tube, with no intermediate welds. Never heard their reason for the change. The RMs was a 2" sq tube FWIW.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux
[Re: STEFF]
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02/17/14 05:04 PM
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Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux
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02/17/14 05:08 PM
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Steff, beautiful work as always but I thought the intent of the rack was to use an oil pan that wasn't so deep and now it looks like the whole front k frame is just about as deep as the pan
The intent was to rid of the drag link going thru the oil pan and reduce the depth of the pan. The new k-frame hangs only 3/16" of an inch lower than the stock k-frame: stock = 7" vs mine = 7 3/16". The rack location dictated the depth. Without the drag link, I can now make the pan shorter in depth.
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Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux
[Re: STEFF]
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02/17/14 05:51 PM
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A number replies back a member suggested gusseting the tube angle welds. I was not a proponent of that solution. However for argument's sake, RMS originally used a similar welded non gusseted tube design, and then later changed to a bent square tube, with no intermediate welds. Never heard their reason for the change. The RMs was a 2" sq tube FWIW.
I would imagine that once into production they would either bend or have those tubes bent simply to save the labor of angle cutting and welding. Given that a bent 2" square tube would end up with a very thin wall on the long radius I suspect there would be less strength in a bent piece than a properly welded piece.
They may also have done it for "appearance" and in this case they may have used bent flats for the top and bottoms, laser-cut sides and then welded all the seams. This is very common in the hotrod frame industry.
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Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux
[Re: STEFF]
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02/17/14 05:53 PM
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Steff, beautiful work as always but I thought the intent of the rack was to use an oil pan that wasn't so deep and now it looks like the whole front k frame is just about as deep as the pan
The intent was to rid of the drag link going thru the oil pan and reduce the depth of the pan. The new k-frame hangs only 3/16" of an inch lower than the stock k-frame: stock = 7" vs mine = 7 3/16". The rack location dictated the depth. Without the drag link, I can now make the pan shorter in depth.
oh wow, looks a lot deeper. very nice 
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Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux
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02/18/14 10:23 AM
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Nice work Steff! Mike Gray
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Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux
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02/18/14 11:43 PM
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Looks great! I may toy around with something similar one of these days...
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Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux
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02/20/14 06:06 PM
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Where did it break?
Looking closer at the attachment it "looks" like 6 1" tube braces were added?
Last edited by jcc; 02/20/14 06:08 PM.
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Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux
[Re: jcc]
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02/21/14 02:08 AM
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Where did it break?
Looking closer at the attachment it "looks" like 6 1" tube braces were added?
Right side tube that runs front to back and has the dip in it to clear the rack. You can see the paint was ground away to weld the area.
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