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Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: JRs_Charger] #1571211
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JR, If you have a few dollars to spend and want the best of both, go to waldronexhaust.com and look at VOE/DCE mufflers.
(Forgot to add these are the ones I built; theirs look like stockers the way they are made)
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Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: Tom Hand] #1571212
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Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: JRs_Charger] #1571213
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A few years ago I picked up a set of IMPCO oe style replacement mufflers. The were the correct oval style, offset 2.5 inlet and center 2.5" outlet. There weren't a lot, $35-$40 each. Have them on a 500ci car and 5.7L car and they're quiet. They were a little longer than stock B-body mufflers but they fit. You might be able to google the company catalog and find them. I'll look for receipts and try to come up with part numbers.

Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: JRs_Charger] #1571214
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Throw those stupid flowmasters in the scrap heap. Buy a set of "sonic turbo" mufflers. I have a pair of them on my Charger in 2.5 inch diameter. It idles with a small throaty rumble at an idle. But blip the throttle and everyone knows it is not a 318. Going down the road it is quiet enough to hear the Eddy 750 drinking dinosaurs at a nice rate.

Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: JohnRR] #1571215
02/05/14 01:19 AM
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Lose the flowmasters

Also you need to be realistic , the only way that car will ever be as quiet as a new charger or ram is if it stays parked in your garage and you never start it ...




Haha, understood. Then lets say I want to get it as close as I can to them. Quiet enough at cruising speed where a conversation could be had in the cabin without yelling, or quiet enough that my ears don't ring after a 4 hour drive.




Once you quiet down the exhaust you will hear everything else it was drowning out , rattles under the dash , in the doors , the trunk , and the big one ROAD NOISE ...

Long case Dyno max turbo muffler , a bullet glasspack type muffler as a resonator ... I'm pretty sure Accutate LTD. sells 2.5" stock looking resonator tail pipes ... and replace the H with an X pipe .




This is right on the money. Order a pair of Dynomax Super Turbo 17748's, & then run a pair of 2.5" flowpath GOOD glasspacks 18" long back next to the gas tank, then tips coming right off of them. If you need something good to run at the back of the system, let me know. I can build you some chambered or packed resonators.


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Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: Sunroofcuda] #1571216
02/05/14 12:00 PM
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I have a 3-1/2" dia. 2 Chamber Flowbastards under my red Charger with an X Pipe reduced down th 3" out the back thru the stock R/T tips with the tapered (2-1/4) portion of the stock tips eliminated with no resonators & it is loud. All home built in my garage. I get more compliments all of the time while driving or at the cruise nights that it is the sweetest sounding "full" exhaust car everyone has heard. I must be getting old. To me it is too loud for as much as i drive it. I may trying adding the glass pack resonators in the tail pipes on either side of the gas tank this year.


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1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack
1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440
1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4
2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4
2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: TheBlueBeast] #1571217
02/06/14 06:10 PM
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Throw those stupid flowmasters in the scrap heap. Buy a set of "sonic turbo" mufflers.




"Sonic Turbo" mufflers have been gone since the 80's. I know because I had them on two of my cars.

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Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: vynn3] #1571218
02/06/14 06:46 PM
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I've got a 2.5" H-pipe system with Summit Turbo Mufflers for $15 each.

It's quiet enough for me.


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Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: JRs_Charger] #1571219
02/06/14 08:27 PM
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The most worth while part and money best spent was a TTI exhaust system for my cars. Use there mufflers, super turbos.
My 440 with headers and a X pipe is really quite until I put my foot into it, but it's still not loud.

Personally I will always use H pipes in the future because the X pipe makes it almost too quite and sounds weird when you stand on it.

Checkout this short video of my 440 smoking the tires at 30 mPH roll for second, the motor is not even loud.



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Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: 451Mopar] #1571220
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Picture of the Walker QuiteFlow 22154 (Imperial) mufflers under the '69 Coronet with TTI X pipe exhaust.

8094042-Walker22154.jpg (386 downloads)
Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: JRs_Charger] #1571221
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Walker has a "Quite Flow" series muffler that IS quite. Know the muffler sizes you can use and start searching Summit. Or go to Walkers web site. Glass packs behind the mufflers should not be needed or used with the right muffler.

Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: Rob C] #1571222
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Im pretty sure I top 90 decibels at idle though


Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat
Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street
Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: Rob C] #1571223
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Walker has a "Quite Flow" series muffler that IS quite. Know the muffler sizes you can use and start searching Summit. Or go to Walkers web site. Glass packs behind the mufflers should not be needed or used with the right muffler.




I agree. Years ago, well before the availability of today's mufflers, I simply put stock replacement, 2 1/4" aftermarket mufflers on my Charger. It was pretty quiet. I replaced them with the DynoMax Super Turbo (17747) mufflers and it was louder, and after a short period of time, they did start to drone at certain rpms.

This was with factory exhaust manifolds, 3.23 gear and stock torque converter.

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Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: BSB67] #1571224
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i went from a 2.5" flowmaster knockoff obnoxious loud system to a 3" system using a large caSE DYNOMAX SUPER TURBO MUFFLER (#17793). man was the car nice and quiet. i could talk to my passengers,hear the radio and not get a headache while driving it. still had a nice deep tone behind it too. i'm sure if you look into it they probably make a large case 2.5" muffler like it..

the 3". http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wlk-17793/overview/


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Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: Challenger 1] #1571225
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The most worth while part and money best spent was a TTI exhaust system for my cars. Use there mufflers, super turbos.
My 440 with headers and a X pipe is really quite until I put my foot into it, but it's still not loud.

Personally I will always use H pipes in the future because the X pipe makes it almost too quite and sounds weird when you stand on it.

Checkout this short video of my 440 smoking the tires at 30 mPH roll for second, the motor is not even loud.



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aren't the tti mufflers dynomax super turbos?

by reading a bunch of posts over the years it seems that guys that used a tti kit and super turbos and used stock exhaust manifolds always complain about the dreaded drone. guys that used headers with the super turbos didn't experience that drone.


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Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: JRs_Charger] #1571226
03/30/14 10:18 AM
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I use stock mufflers on my 68 Coronet. Years ago I used glasspacks, turbo mufflers, etc.
The mufflers that I used are the MSL mufflers. AP Exhaust makes them. They sound great. It's a stock muffler. It's not a performance muffler. It gives a period correct exhaust sound. And they are not loud at all. Very happy with them.
http://www.apexhaust.com/automotive-light-truck-2/overview/

I just replaced the mufflers and pipes on my 91 Crown Vic police car. I used the Walker Sound FX mufflers. The car is a factory dual exhaust with h-pipe. These are very quiet too. Very happy with these too. Someone else mentioned about these mufflers on this thread.
Give these mufflers a try. I would try the MSL's first.
I think you will like them.

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Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: abodyjoe] #1571227
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The most worth while part and money best spent was a TTI exhaust system for my cars. Use there mufflers, super turbos.
My 440 with headers and a X pipe is really quite until I put my foot into it, but it's still not loud.

Personally I will always use H pipes in the future because the X pipe makes it almost too quite and sounds weird when you stand on it.

Checkout this short video of my 440 smoking the tires at 30 mPH roll for second, the motor is not even loud.



web page





aren't the tti mufflers dynomax super turbos?

by reading a bunch of posts over the years it seems that guys that used a tti kit and super turbos and used stock exhaust manifolds always complain about the dreaded drone. guys that used headers with the super turbos didn't experience that drone.




Yes. I believe that all of what you stated is correct. That is why I stated I had manifolds. Also, it occurs at a certain rpm and engine load. Guys with more gear and/or looser converter, or lighter car may experience less drone, and/or they will get through the drone zone earlier and faster and will be a non-issue for them.

Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: BSB67] #1571228
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i had headers and an X-pipe with a 2.94 gear and no drone. not sure what took the drone away. the x-pipe, the headers or the huge muffler. maybe just a combo of them all.


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Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: BSB67] #1571229
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I am also interested in a quieter exhaust. I had a high compression 440 big block (13:1) with headers that I raced a few times a year. Nothing would quiet that motor. Now the 440 is down to approx 9:1 and will be mostly street driven, and I also considered putting exhaust manifolds back on. BSB67 your combo seems ideal, except 500cubes is alot larger motor. Comparison is difficult due to engine size, compression, weight, and torque converter stall.

Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: JRs_Charger] #1571230
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These hear are real nice and quiet with a cross over pipe.
http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/wlk-17749/overview/

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