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Re: BB Mopar Crank Drive Mandrels [Re: Plumb Wired] #1570255 01/29/14 05:27 PM 01/29/14 05:27 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,456 Out West 4 408strokerdart OP master
408strokerdart OP master 4 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,456 Out West	Quote: BB ??????? SB isn't the only thing that makes it on my stand...

Re: BB Mopar Crank Drive Mandrels [Re: 408strokerdart] #1570256 01/30/14 05:11 PM 01/30/14 05:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,385 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda I Live Here
an8sec70cuda I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,385 Marion, South Carolina [><]	I just switched from an Aerospace Components drive mandrel to a setup from CV Products. The CV stuff is VERY nice. No more Aerospace Components junk for me. CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: BB Mopar Crank Drive Mandrels [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1570257 01/30/14 07:09 PM 01/30/14 07:09 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,456 Out West 4 408strokerdart OP master
408strokerdart OP master 4 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,456 Out West	It looks like Peterson has spacers that simply space the mandrel forward for clearance. They have from 1/4" up to 3/4" (as long as you have the Chevy front pattern). This is what I will do this time, but their spline drive stuff looks real nice.

Re: BB Mopar Crank Drive Mandrels [Re: 408strokerdart] #1570258 01/30/14 07:21 PM 01/30/14 07:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,073 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,073 Oregon	Yes, the spline drive is a much improved design over the traditional keyway mandrel. It does cost some money to switch though since you need to buy new pulleys.

Re: BB Mopar Crank Drive Mandrels [Re: 408strokerdart] #1570259 01/30/14 07:24 PM 01/30/14 07:24 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,385 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda I Live Here
an8sec70cuda I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,385 Marion, South Carolina [><]	The CV products drive setup doesn't use a shaft w/ a keyway either. They use a "pinned" drive setup...it just stacks together and aligns w/ 2 dowel pins. Then one long bolt just holds the stack together. CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: BB Mopar Crank Drive Mandrels [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1570260 01/30/14 07:36 PM 01/30/14 07:36 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,890 North Alabama M Monte_Smith master
Monte_Smith master M Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,890 North Alabama	Quote: The CV products drive setup doesn't use a shaft w/ a keyway either. They use a "pinned" drive setup...it just stacks together and aligns w/ 2 dowel pins. Then one long bolt just holds the stack together. Me personally, I HATE the stuff with the long bolt. I want the bolt to hold the balancer only, then the drive centers in the register and uses the 3 balancer bolts to attach. To me this is a much better design, as well as being able to turn the motor either way with the drive Monte

Re: BB Mopar Crank Drive Mandrels [Re: Monte_Smith] #1570261 01/30/14 07:47 PM 01/30/14 07:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,385 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda I Live Here
an8sec70cuda I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,385 Marion, South Carolina [><]	Quote: Quote: The CV products drive setup doesn't use a shaft w/ a keyway either. They use a "pinned" drive setup...it just stacks together and aligns w/ 2 dowel pins. Then one long bolt just holds the stack together. Me personally, I HATE the stuff with the long bolt. I want the bolt to hold the balancer only, then the drive centers in the register and uses the 3 balancer bolts to attach. To me this is a much better design, as well as being able to turn the motor either way with the drive Monte The long bolt doesn't bolt to the crankshaft. You use a normal short crank to balancer bolt. Then bolt on the crank/drive hub like a normal crank pulley would bolt on. The long bolt just holds the stack of pullies/spacers to the drive hub. CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: BB Mopar Crank Drive Mandrels [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1570262 01/30/14 10:57 PM 01/30/14 10:57 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,890 North Alabama M Monte_Smith master
Monte_Smith master M Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,890 North Alabama	Quote: Quote: Quote: The CV products drive setup doesn't use a shaft w/ a keyway either. They use a "pinned" drive setup...it just stacks together and aligns w/ 2 dowel pins. Then one long bolt just holds the stack together. Me personally, I HATE the stuff with the long bolt. I want the bolt to hold the balancer only, then the drive centers in the register and uses the 3 balancer bolts to attach. To me this is a much better design, as well as being able to turn the motor either way with the drive Monte The long bolt doesn't bolt to the crankshaft. You use a normal short crank to balancer bolt. Then bolt on the crank/drive hub like a normal crank pulley would bolt on. The long bolt just holds the stack of pullies/spacers to the drive hub. Gotcha.......that's better, but I still prefer a spline drive or similar that will let me rotate the motor with what is on the end of the mandrel. Monte

Re: BB Mopar Crank Drive Mandrels [Re: Monte_Smith] #1570263 01/31/14 12:28 PM 01/31/14 12:28 PM
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Plumb Wired master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,813 Blue Ridge, VA	CV Products mandrel I used on one my past R3/W8 builds. 8019532-CVProductsMandrel.JPG (417 downloads) RIP Monte Smith aka: OutlawFish '98 Bickel Dodge Dakota PST

Re: BB Mopar Crank Drive Mandrels [Re: Monte_Smith] #1570264 01/31/14 12:43 PM 01/31/14 12:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,073 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,073 Oregon	Here is a picture of the Mopar spline drives that I used to make. They took forever to sell so I stopped making them. I was lucky to sell one a year so it just wasn't worth building the inventory. 8019543-AR236(Large).jpg (390 downloads)

Re: BB Mopar Crank Drive Mandrels [Re: AndyF] #1570265 01/31/14 12:50 PM 01/31/14 12:50 PM
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1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Does anyone have a part number for the cv products drive? Looks a lot nicer then my moroso one.

Re: BB Mopar Crank Drive Mandrels [Re: 1967dartgt] #1570266 01/31/14 01:03 PM 01/31/14 01:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,385 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda I Live Here
an8sec70cuda I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,385 Marion, South Carolina [><]	Quote: Does anyone have a part number for the cv products drive? Looks a lot nicer then my moroso one. I believe the mopar crank hub is CVD53225 5" pulley CVD30202 3" pulley CVD70204 Can't find the number for the end cap...the pullies and end caps are all universal. They have all different thicknesses of spacers if you need them. I didn't use any. CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: BB Mopar Crank Drive Mandrels [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1570267 01/31/14 01:08 PM 01/31/14 01:08 PM
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1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Where are you guys buying your cv products stuff?

Re: BB Mopar Crank Drive Mandrels [Re: 1967dartgt] #1570268 01/31/14 01:11 PM 01/31/14 01:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,385 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda I Live Here
an8sec70cuda I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,385 Marion, South Carolina [><]	Quote: Where are you guys buying your cv products stuff? Directly from CV products. BigCube put some good pics on this thread... https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=7907772 CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: BB Mopar Crank Drive Mandrels [Re: 1967dartgt] #1570269 01/31/14 09:01 PM 01/31/14 09:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,813 Blue Ridge, VA Plumb Wired master
Plumb Wired master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,813 Blue Ridge, VA	Quote: Where are you guys buying your cv products stuff? I have my old invoice from 2003 where I purchased direct from them. Don't know if the numbers are still good but here's what I bought: 1-CVD53225 drive hub Dodge 6-bolt 4-CVD43224 crank hub spacer .600" thick 1-CVD 43221 crank hub spacer.1875" thick 1-CVD43005 .050 separator/16-19t gears twin-pin 1-CVD44501 hex head hat washer 1-CV687 1/2" x 5" bolt 1-CV688 1/2" x 5 1/2" bolt 1-CVD15218 gilmer gear/18t twin-pin I had some spacers and one of the bolts left over after getting the spacing right for the external oil pump. RIP Monte Smith aka: OutlawFish '98 Bickel Dodge Dakota PST

Re: BB Mopar Crank Drive Mandrels [Re: Plumb Wired] #1570270 02/01/14 02:23 AM 02/01/14 02:23 AM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Quote: Quote: Where are you guys buying your cv products stuff? I have my old invoice from 2003 where I purchased direct from them. Don't know if the numbers are still good but here's what I bought: 1-CVD53225 drive hub Dodge 6-bolt 4-CVD43224 crank hub spacer .600" thick 1-CVD 43221 crank hub spacer.1875" thick 1-CVD43005 .050 separator/16-19t gears twin-pin 1-CVD44501 hex head hat washer 1-CV687 1/2" x 5" bolt 1-CV688 1/2" x 5 1/2" bolt 1-CVD15218 gilmer gear/18t twin-pin I had some spacers and one of the bolts left over after getting the spacing right for the external oil pump. Thanks Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

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