Crate motors good bad n ugly views?
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Ok doing a 72 cuda for dad. He's totally up in the air in what to do. It's a 340 auto car. We have a NOM 340 but needs rebuild/machine work. Figure 4-5k to do that he says. Looked into doing a 5.7. He can buy a new replacement through his dealership for like 3600 but then add in the extras for wiring & related parts thinking be in that 5k range too. He has been looking at various adds in Mopar muscle but worried on who's good,bad and ugly to stay away from. The car is all painted original B5 with the V21 hood. It will have black vinyl top and black stripes. Not overly worried about it being 100% correct he just wants a fun cruiser nothing racey just nice sound and fun. Last car he restored was his 69 satellite convertible in 1985. Always said he cant afford to. Now he can. He's 74 this year still works at the dealership he's been at since 1965 full time. Totally bugs him to spend money so it's been hard getting him to except any way it's expensive. He's been a mechanic all his life but said if he rebuilds the 340 he will just have machine shop build it. He has looked into putting a pair of edelbrock alum heads on it just for flowing better and cost of what he would have in the heads on the motor just to get them to flow good and being able to run pump gas. So what's your views on advertised crate engines? Who is a good oneto deal with? Like I said not looking for horsepower to spin the earth but a nice respectable number. Or would he be happier with a 5.7 if we can get that all figured out(I have posted on that and gotten good feedback back that I'm not as scared as I was before with wiring it all up). Or take the 340 put a set of heads,carb & intake and build it?
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Re: Crate motors good bad n ugly views?
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Who makes the stroker for the 340? Should also ask if you know of a supplier for any thing let me know
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Re: Crate motors good bad n ugly views?
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Who makes the stroker for the 340? Should also ask if you know of a supplier for any thing let me know
Thanks
Scat seems to be be the most consistant quality sreet machine type kit. Cast: under ~500-525HP. Forged over: ~500-525HP. Their cast kit comes with Kings bearings, ICON forged pistons, Scat rods with ARP bolts, Total Seal? Rings...
The Eagle cast crank have issues.
There are some cranks and kits on the race side of things. Mollnor, BPE, ...
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Re: Crate motors good bad n ugly views?
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$5000 to get either a brand-new Hemi or a stroker LA motor?
It's a no-brainer. Seriously. The Hemi makes more power, gets better mileage, is brand new, and weighs a hundred pounds less than an LA motor.
I'd say even if the Hemi costs $2000 more than the other engine, no matter what other engine, it's a deal.
Also, the Hemi will add value to the car over everything other than a numbers-matching 340. I know this isn't part of the calculation, but it's so, anyways.
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Re: Crate motors good bad n ugly views?
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Yeah he's not looking for a race engine just a nice cruiser. Probably never drive it more than from Sioux Falls to twin cities but mostly just around town. He ran a hemi duster in D/A in the 70's so he's been there done that. I'll show him the links and anymore that come through.
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Re: Crate motors good bad n ugly views?
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A 5.7 hemi for 3600 then complete swap for 5k? Someone is dreaming You'll have the 1400 in ecu and wiring alone. Then there's fuel pump, radiator, engine mounts, headers/manifolds that fit and so on. 5k would realistic with a used junkyard engine.
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Re: Crate motors good bad n ugly views?
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$950 for wiring and $50 for a used 2005 ECU,at 74 I am betting he wants a car that starts every time and runs great,that screams 5.7. I hope to have my 5.7 swap done in my 67 this year so that we can take some long trouble free trips that dont break the bank. Quote:
A 5.7 hemi for 3600 then complete swap for 5k? Someone is dreaming You'll have the 1400 in ecu and wiring alone. Then there's fuel pump, radiator, engine mounts, headers/manifolds that fit and so on. 5k would realistic with a used junkyard engine.
who is that guy?
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Re: Crate motors good bad n ugly views?
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Wow no one has said 5.9 magnum swap yet? Aside from the recent Mopar Action articles there are lots of stock short block magnum builds out there. Cheap, plentiful, newer gasket technology and way cheaper swap then a new Hemi Good web site for some info http://www.magnumswap.com/
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Re: Crate motors good bad n ugly views?
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"Chrysler 360cu 350hp Lopey idle 9.5 compr $3996 $3396 $1896"
No comments on the above link? OP asked about crate engines and this place has a 350hp 360LA LONGBLOCK for $3396 and no comments?????
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Re: Crate motors good bad n ugly views?
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I think he'd love to do the 5.7 but I agree there is a lot of unknowns since we have never done one before. As farcas the late model 360's I'm not sure if he'd want to go that route. Mainly I think if he stayed with the small block I think he'd want to keep it looking close to a 340. If that makes sense.
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