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Good quality small block timing chain? #1565285 01/19/14 12:14 AM 01/19/14 12:14 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 657 B.C. M mk_ OP mopar
mk_ OP mopar M Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 657 B.C.	Any input on a great quality timing chain set for a 340? Will a true roller with steel gears last longer?

Re: Good quality small block timing chain? [Re: mk_] #1565286 01/19/14 12:46 AM 01/19/14 12:46 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,291 Kent, Wa 340SHORTY Truck Nut
340SHORTY Truck Nut Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,291 Kent, Wa	#1 Cloyes #2 Yes I am truckless..

Re: Good quality small block timing chain? [Re: 340SHORTY] #1565287 01/19/14 02:08 AM 01/19/14 02:08 AM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours Supercuda About to go away
Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Last set of Cloyes I put on my 360 stretched out in about 20k miles. It was a stock replacement type though. I love the Edelbrock timing sets and run those now. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: Good quality small block timing chain? [Re: Supercuda] #1565288 01/19/14 02:36 AM 01/19/14 02:36 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas 70AARcuda master
70AARcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas	last cloyes I bought ...it was a billet set..the chain broke while idling ...and bent 5 valves...and a bunch more pushrods. Tony 70 AARCuda Vitamin C 71 Dart Swinger 360 10.318 @ 128.22(10-04-14 Bakersfield) 71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas) 71 Duster 408 (10.29 @ 127.86 3/16/19 Las Vegas)

Re: Good quality small block timing chain? [Re: 70AARcuda] #1565289 01/19/14 03:38 AM 01/19/14 03:38 AM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA Kern Dog Striving for excellence
Kern Dog Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	I had that happen with a "Summit" brand timing chain. The 67 Dart was idling to warm up, then just shut off like I pulled the coil wire or something. It bent 4 pushrods and even though I replaced them, I still hear a ticking sound at idle. maybe it has a bent valve or two, though the idle isn't any rougher than before.

Re: Good quality small block timing chain? [Re: Kern Dog] #1565290 01/19/14 05:17 AM 01/19/14 05:17 AM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours Supercuda About to go away
Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Quote: I had that happen with a "Summit" brand timing chain. The 67 Dart was idling to warm up, then just shut off like I pulled the coil wire or something. It bent 4 pushrods and even though I replaced them, I still hear a ticking sound at idle. maybe it has a bent valve or two, though the idle isn't any rougher than before. Last Summit brand I bought was made by ... Cloyes. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: Good quality small block timing chain? [Re: Supercuda] #1565291 01/19/14 08:13 AM 01/19/14 08:13 AM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,442 Texas D Daty Rogers World's Greatest Husband. I love you Robyn
Daty Rogers World's Greatest Husband. I love you Robyn D Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,442 Texas	That's odd, last Cloyes I bought for my 340 was a double roller, had no problems with it. -Daty

Re: Good quality small block timing chain? [Re: mk_] #1565292 01/19/14 01:35 PM 01/19/14 01:35 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	I had a Summitt house brand (for a SB) ten years ago & it was a sloppy fit brand new live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Good quality small block timing chain? [Re: RapidRobert] #1565293 01/19/14 02:10 PM 01/19/14 02:10 PM
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1ol74charger4me enthusiast 1 Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 244 Il	Summit lists a Cloyes street roller for $58 and the true roller for $150ish. Is there really $100 difference in the 2? Can't find anything in the description to base it on. Surprised to see the problems people have had with them. I always thought a Cloyes was a "put in and forget about" kinda part.

Re: Good quality small block timing chain? [Re: 1ol74charger4me] #1565294 01/19/14 02:19 PM 01/19/14 02:19 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours Supercuda About to go away
Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Quote: Summit lists a Cloyes street roller for $58 and the true roller for $150ish. Is there really $100 difference in the 2? Can't find anything in the description to base it on. Surprised to see the problems people have had with them. I always thought a Cloyes was a "put in and forget about" kinda part. As I said, my Cloyes stuff was stock replacement types, not roller, double roller or whatever. Never tried that stuff from Cloyes because it was my DD. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: Good quality small block timing chain? [Re: Supercuda] #1565295 01/20/14 12:43 AM 01/20/14 12:43 AM
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mk_ OP mopar M Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 657 B.C.	Thanks for the info........another brand i just read up on and may try is the Progear chain sets.

Re: Good quality small block timing chain? [Re: mk_] #1565296 01/20/14 01:31 AM 01/20/14 01:31 AM
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larrymopar360 Stud Muffin Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 15,827 Central Florida	And should install a tensioner too. Facts are stubborn things.

Re: Good quality small block timing chain? [Re: larrymopar360] #1565297 01/20/14 09:32 AM 01/20/14 09:32 AM
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ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	I've had good luck with a Cloyes "true roller" on a BB. The more expensive one. I did have to buy a -.010" version to get it good and tight with my align bored block. On a SB, I believe the tensioner requires a stock style chain. Hi po "true roller" types tear up the tensioner. It wouldn't hurt to price a stock replacement chain from your local dealer. I "think" length was the same through the years so a replacement magnum chain should work. That has proven to be a durable piece. Hope others will confirm the fit.

Re: Good quality small block timing chain? [Re: mk_] #1565298 01/20/14 02:17 PM 01/20/14 02:17 PM
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CompWedgeEngines master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,544 Syracuse,NY	Quote: Thanks for the info........another brand i just read up on and may try is the Progear chain sets. This is the way to go. I have sold and used 100's of sets, and they dont stretch and wear like many of the others. Good true old school American quality stuff, from a company that has been making gears for many many years. Cloyes is simply not the quality it used to be. I dont use anything Cloyes, unless a customer already has their own to supply for the build. Not impressed. Most all " big box" and cam manufacter brands are just reboxed sets made by one of basically 3 or 4 companies.Also dont be fooled by " billet" timing sets either. It doesnt always meant hey are the best choice. You will often find the chains on some sets wear first, and on other cheap sets, the teeth simply wear down quickly. A set is also not necessarily good because it " looks nice" ( IE: some of the billet stuff). RIP Monte Smith Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality. WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.

Re: Good quality small block timing chain? [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1565299 01/21/14 06:44 AM 01/21/14 06:44 AM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,267 Connecticut 1972CudaV21 master
1972CudaV21 master Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,267 Connecticut	So, this would be the ProGear to go with: http://r.ebay.com/Map9CZ Still Made in the USA as well...

Re: Good quality small block timing chain? [Re: 1972CudaV21] #1565300 01/21/14 01:49 PM 01/21/14 01:49 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,087 Elk Grove, Calif. B bigblock340power master
bigblock340power master B Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,087 Elk Grove, Calif.	Cloyes double roller is all I've ever run in my HP strokers. No problems. But I'm sure everybody has some other opinions on this. But, you know what they say about opinions. Opinions are a$$ holes everyone has one, and they usually stink!

Re: Good quality small block timing chain? [Re: bigblock340power] #1565301 01/22/14 01:27 PM 01/22/14 01:27 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,322 Michigan C crlush pro stock
crlush pro stock C Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,322 Michigan	Bought a summit timing set once and the chain had so much slack I sent it back and put the old one back on.

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