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Re: Just starting to shop for a new hemi block [Re: Al_Alguire] #1557305
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My two cents, wait for a Keith Black block!!! Ken is a stand up guy and the KB is a superior product IMO.

Good Luck,

Arnie


67 Cuda 8.48@ 158.7 mph 1.18 60' 2,600 DA(so far...) 70 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 4-speed. 13.2 @ 104 Stock exhaust/Street tires.
Re: Just starting to shop for a new hemi block [Re: Al_Alguire] #1557306
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As for the weight comment my KB block weighs a whopping 125lbs. From what I remember my last Indy was 125lbs as well. My motor complste ready to drop in full of oil with the stop on it weighs 525lbs.



My KB hemi block w/ double crossbolted mains is right at 130 lbs...way lighter than any cast iron BB I've had.


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Re: Just starting to shop for a new hemi block [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1557307
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I think the KB is probably the best option, really it's the money up front. If not for the deposit, I would buy one tomorrow. I love all of the options they give for nothing. I am planning on MATS.

Re: Just starting to shop for a new hemi block [Re: camastomcat] #1557308
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I don't remember the exact weight and I don't feel like digging, but if I remember, my double cross bolted, KB water block at 4.500 was around 140 with steel caps.

100# lighter than a stock 440 and less than half the weight of an aftermarket iron block.

Re: Just starting to shop for a new hemi block [Re: jim sciortino] #1557309
01/03/14 06:17 PM
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FWIW mine is a low deck big cam tunnel version.


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Re: Just starting to shop for a new hemi block [Re: Al_Alguire] #1557310
01/03/14 06:51 PM
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Ken at KB will make whatever you want. I have a raised cam 54mm (Large Journal Hemi) 45* block that Predators are going on. The bore is 4.530". Sounds exactly like what you are looking for.

I would not use an Indy block, just my


Re: Just starting to shop for a new hemi block [Re: Biginchmopar] #1557311
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Ken at KB will make whatever you want. I have a raised cam 54mm (Large Journal Hemi) 45* block that Predators are going on. The bore is 4.530". Sounds exactly like what you are looking for.

I would not use an Indy block, just my






Do tell.... I thought you sold your Predator stuff?

Re: Just starting to shop for a new hemi block [Re: camastomcat] #1557312
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KB all the way.

Re: Just starting to shop for a new hemi block [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1557313
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Was there any specific problem with the World Aluminum block that caused the engine failure ?


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Re: Just starting to shop for a new hemi block [Re: Edge] #1557314
01/04/14 12:30 AM
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I wanted a KB as well and he had 100% payment for 10 months, we finally grew tired of this and finally settled on a World, all we wanted was a 572 with stock cam height. So now I haven't decided what to do with this yet.




Re: Just starting to shop for a new hemi block [Re: camastomcat] #1557315
01/04/14 06:06 AM
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Quote:

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Ken at KB will make whatever you want. I have a raised cam 54mm (Large Journal Hemi) 45* block that Predators are going on. The bore is 4.530". Sounds exactly like what you are looking for.

I would not use an Indy block, just my






Do tell.... I thought you sold your Predator stuff?




Nope the 596 will make it into the ride just as soon as I make a couple attemps to run B/Gas with the B1-BS 498.

I finaly have a most of the parts for the 596.


Re: Just starting to shop for a new hemi block [Re: Biginchmopar] #1557316
01/04/14 06:11 AM
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Kieth,
What the hell happened?
I delt with Ken 1 on 1 and he did exactly what he told me he was going to do, hell I went down and picked it up with a couple of buddies of mine and got the grand tour of KB racing.

Re: Just starting to shop for a new hemi block [Re: Edge] #1557317
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Was there any specific problem with the World Aluminum block that caused the engine failure ?




It's hard to say really. I don't think so though. I have a B1/MC motor out of a World block, that runs real well and it's on it's 3rd rebuild.

Re: Just starting to shop for a new hemi block [Re: camastomcat] #1557318
01/04/14 02:09 PM
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Quote:

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Was there any specific problem with the World Aluminum block that caused the engine failure ?




It's hard to say really. I don't think so though. I have a B1/MC motor out of a World block, that runs real well and it's on it's 3rd rebuild.




Nothing glaring that would cause failure if corrections are made.Rear main seal retainer fit,main cap location,uneven deck and some bolt hole depths and those pesky little bolt heads on the main cap cross bolts.Just typical stupid stuff.

Re: Just starting to shop for a new hemi block [Re: B G Racing] #1557319
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Does anyone know of a low deck aluminum wedge block for sale? I am interested.

Re: Just starting to shop for a new hemi block [Re: 440Jim] #1557320
01/04/14 08:07 PM
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Jim KB and Indy both sell them. BTW nice to see you back here


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Re: Just starting to shop for a new hemi block [Re: Edge] #1557321
01/19/14 07:35 PM
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Was there any specific problem with the World Aluminum block that caused the engine failure ?




It's hard to tell, but I don't think so. One thing for sure, I'll never be able to find out now. I just think the way it was broken like a glass table, it couldn't have been too strong. I'll probably get a KB when finances permit.

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