Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Slicks vs radials #1556015
12/30/13 07:52 PM
12/30/13 07:52 PM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 251
Saskatchewan (SK)
7
79410aspenrt Offline OP
enthusiast
79410aspenrt  Offline OP
enthusiast
7

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 251
Saskatchewan (SK)
I need to buy new slicks for the upcoming season.

I run 10.8's @ 126 mph. Caltracs, mono springs. Weight is 3800 lbs. tire size is 28/9/15

What brand? M/ T or Hoosier. Drag slicks or drag radials?




Re: Slicks vs radials [Re: 79410aspenrt] #1556016
12/30/13 07:58 PM
12/30/13 07:58 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY Offline
Master
MR_P_BODY  Offline
Master

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
What is the car used for strip only or ? is it a auto
or stick? do you race at multiple tracks and is it a
bracket car or class car

Re: Slicks vs radials [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1556017
12/30/13 08:01 PM
12/30/13 08:01 PM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 251
Saskatchewan (SK)
7
79410aspenrt Offline OP
enthusiast
79410aspenrt  Offline OP
enthusiast
7

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 251
Saskatchewan (SK)
Strip only, 727, bracket car, and race at 1 track only.

I will run a small shot of spray to run low 10's




Re: Slicks vs radials [Re: 79410aspenrt] #1556018
12/30/13 08:22 PM
12/30/13 08:22 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY Offline
Master
MR_P_BODY  Offline
Master

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
Quote:

Strip only, 727, bracket car, and race at 1 track only.

I will run a small shot of spray to run low 10's




A drag radial is quicker/faster than a bias ply slick
but on a good track... a bias ply slick is more forgiving
on a marginal track SO how is your track on a regular
basis... if its good on a regular basis I would look
at the drag radial... the Hoosier use to be real good
but I dont know today but I still think it is

Re: Slicks vs radials [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1556019
12/30/13 08:32 PM
12/30/13 08:32 PM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 251
Saskatchewan (SK)
7
79410aspenrt Offline OP
enthusiast
79410aspenrt  Offline OP
enthusiast
7

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 251
Saskatchewan (SK)
Track has traction about 70% of the time.

Is there a difference in 60' between slicks and drag radials?




Re: Slicks vs radials [Re: 79410aspenrt] #1556020
12/30/13 08:41 PM
12/30/13 08:41 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY Offline
Master
MR_P_BODY  Offline
Master

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
Quote:

Track has traction about 70% of the time.

Is there a difference in 60' between slicks and drag radials?




I'm not sure on this.... being that I'm a bracket racer
I am willing to sacrifice a little ET so I can hook
all of the time thats why I run a bias ply..... I'm
sure there will be others to chime in as to what
they think

Re: Slicks vs radials [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1556021
12/30/13 08:49 PM
12/30/13 08:49 PM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 370
Real North Cal.
6
66er Offline
enthusiast
66er  Offline
enthusiast
6

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 370
Real North Cal.

Re: Slicks vs radials [Re: 66er] #1556022
12/30/13 10:10 PM
12/30/13 10:10 PM
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,267
North, Alabama
D-50 Offline
pro stock
D-50  Offline
pro stock

Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,267
North, Alabama
At Test&Tune at my track last year I carried my 315/60 M/T Drag Radials and my 29.5/10.5W's and ran them both and I ran a little over a tenth quicker with the drag radials.It hooked with both sets of tires. I only run 1/8 mile and my D-50 mostly runs low 6.30's at 2950 lbs.I do not think I will buy slicks again.


1.33 60 ft,6.21 at 110.59 in the 1/8, pump gas small block,2950lbs,drag radials,mufflers and driven to track ...
Re: Slicks vs radials [Re: 79410aspenrt] #1556023
12/30/13 11:02 PM
12/30/13 11:02 PM
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,613
Burlington,Ont.
77DragracerR/T Offline
top fuel
77DragracerR/T  Offline
top fuel

Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,613
Burlington,Ont.
I'm up for new slicks this year as well. I've been running a Radial Hoosier slick for about 3yrs (3 pairs) and the track hasn't been prepped as well as past years and I've lost to many races because of when the track fades. I run a 9x30 slick and I'm going back to the bias ply to keep the traction there.Also they're more affordable then radial slicks.


77 Aspen R/T 60'@1.41 10.76 @ 123.26

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eya3Ue8KoZk
Re: Slicks vs radials [Re: 79410aspenrt] #1556024
12/30/13 11:03 PM
12/30/13 11:03 PM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,303
Bend,OR USA
C
Cab_Burge Offline
I Win
Cab_Burge  Offline
I Win
C

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,303
Bend,OR USA
Quote:

Track has traction about 70% of the time.

Is there a difference in 60' between slicks and drag radials?


I'm almost positive that all the drag time makers make a drag slick radial in that size If so they should work a lot better than the "Drag Radial" street and strip tires I've ran both the ET Street bias ply tires and the same size ET Street Radials, the radials are quicker and faster on the good tracks, not so on the fair to marginal tracks My car ran its fastest time on a set of M/T bias ply drag slicks 10.5x31x15 on ten inch wide rims I've never ran or used the drag radial slicks so I have no real world experience with them, I have friends who race NHRA races(excellent track prep always) on them and they love them


Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
Re: Slicks vs radials [Re: D-50] #1556025
12/31/13 01:15 AM
12/31/13 01:15 AM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 251
Saskatchewan (SK)
7
79410aspenrt Offline OP
enthusiast
79410aspenrt  Offline OP
enthusiast
7

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 251
Saskatchewan (SK)
Quote:

At Test&Tune at my track last year I carried my 315/60 M/T Drag Radials and my 29.5/10.5W's and ran them both and I ran a little over a tenth quicker with the drag radials.It hooked with both sets of tires. I only run 1/8 mile and my D-50 mostly runs low 6.30's at 2950 lbs.I do not think I will buy slicks again.




would this be the same for my heavy car? your 800 lbs lighter!




Re: Slicks vs radials [Re: 79410aspenrt] #1556026
12/31/13 01:31 AM
12/31/13 01:31 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
3
383man Offline
Too Many Posts
383man  Offline
Too Many Posts
3

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
Myself I like the radial slicks. I use the Hoosier 30 x 9 radial slicks and even drive on the street on them. The pair I had was on my car for four years so I bought a new set early this year but did not make it to the track until Oct. After it spun on my first pass of 10.81 it then ran 10.76 three passes in a row so it had good consisdent hook. I have had pretty good luck hooking on the radial slicks and they handle much better at the top end for me then the bias slicks since I have a street radial tire up front. No wandering in the traps with the radials up front and radial slicks. I guess you gotta use what you like and what works best for you but I am happy on the radial slicks. Ron

Last edited by 383man; 12/31/13 01:32 AM.
Re: Slicks vs radials [Re: 383man] #1556027
12/31/13 02:00 AM
12/31/13 02:00 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 3,616
Riverside, Ca
G
G_bob Offline
master
G_bob  Offline
master
G

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 3,616
Riverside, Ca
I have Phoenix radial slicks on the coronet, 32x13.6x15.
Hook good on a well prepped track. Fontana when it was open, Bakersfield, Vegas.
Irwindale, I'm lucky to get them to hook one out of four times, and no way if the sun is on the track.
Was planning on going back to QTP's, but maybe not now that Fontana is coming back.

Re: Slicks vs radials [Re: 79410aspenrt] #1556028
12/31/13 02:11 AM
12/31/13 02:11 AM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY Offline
Master
MR_P_BODY  Offline
Master

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
Quote:

Quote:

At Test&Tune at my track last year I carried my 315/60 M/T Drag Radials and my 29.5/10.5W's and ran them both and I ran a little over a tenth quicker with the drag radials.It hooked with both sets of tires. I only run 1/8 mile and my D-50 mostly runs low 6.30's at 2950 lbs.I do not think I will buy slicks again.




would this be the same for my heavy car? your 800 lbs lighter!




I will ask.... do you really care if your just a few
thousandths slower running a bias that is known to
be more forgiving even on a marginal track... you
already said that the track hooks 70% of the time..
to me there isnt any choice and thats to run the bias
tire... if your a true bracket racer, your out there
for the money... and in that you cant afford to have
the slip one time... one time and you go home with
a empty pocket.... JMO .... I made 8 passes in a day
and didnt have more than .007 difference for the whole
day and the 60' was 1.20 all day long.... if I wanted
to chase ET then sure I would give them a shot...
but I dont chase ET

Re: Slicks vs radials [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1556029
12/31/13 02:26 AM
12/31/13 02:26 AM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 251
Saskatchewan (SK)
7
79410aspenrt Offline OP
enthusiast
79410aspenrt  Offline OP
enthusiast
7

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 251
Saskatchewan (SK)
The 10-15 passes I get in a season of racing, it's never been about money!! I don't chase et's either.

I looked at the prices of drag radials and they are not cheap. $230 a tire compared to $180 for slicks.

I personally like M/T's,




Re: Slicks vs radials [Re: 79410aspenrt] #1556030
12/31/13 02:49 AM
12/31/13 02:49 AM
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,267
North, Alabama
D-50 Offline
pro stock
D-50  Offline
pro stock

Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,267
North, Alabama
Quote:

Quote:

At Test&Tune at my track last year I carried my 315/60 M/T Drag Radials and my 29.5/10.5W's and ran them both and I ran a little over a tenth quicker with the drag radials.It hooked with both sets of tires. I only run 1/8 mile and my D-50 mostly runs low 6.30's at 2950 lbs.I do not think I will buy slicks again.




would this be the same for my heavy car? your 800 lbs lighter!




I am not sure about the weight difference, I really do not see what the difference would be. At my local track I run within a couple hundreds all night at T&T and when I bracket race. My problem is pulling the wheels straight up out of the lights on the hit then I cut a .490 something redlight.


1.33 60 ft,6.21 at 110.59 in the 1/8, pump gas small block,2950lbs,drag radials,mufflers and driven to track ...
Re: Slicks vs radials [Re: 79410aspenrt] #1556031
12/31/13 02:55 AM
12/31/13 02:55 AM
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,319
Puyallup, WA
S
StealthWedge67 Offline
master
StealthWedge67  Offline
master
S

Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,319
Puyallup, WA
I understand and agree with the consitency thing with Bias Ply slicks; but if its a street / strip car: No brainer as far as I'm concerned.... RADIALS. Having the car wander around on the street with Bias ply tires is not something that interests me. And I've done a few passes with Bias Slicks, and radials up front.... That was flat out scary at the top, NO THANKS!

Now, I'll admit I have the luxury of both tracks I get to are always very well prepped, but still I don't think there's anything that would cause me to go to bias ply tires for a street car.


LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120
Re: Slicks vs radials [Re: StealthWedge67] #1556032
12/31/13 03:13 AM
12/31/13 03:13 AM
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,256
Salisbury North Carolina
8secDart Offline
pro stock
8secDart  Offline
pro stock

Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,256
Salisbury North Carolina
Quote:

I understand and agree with the consitency thing with Bias Ply slicks; but if its a street / strip car: No brainer as far as I'm concerned.... RADIALS. Having the car wander around on the street with Bias ply tires is not something that interests me. And I've done a few passes with Bias Slicks, and radials up front.... That was flat out scary at the top, NO THANKS!

Now, I'll admit I have the luxury of both tracks I get to are always very well prepped, but still I don't think there's anything that would cause me to go to bias ply tires for a street car.




If your car drove like that on the big end you had to low PSI in rear tires.The rear and front tires have no idea which one is on either end.That is just plain and simple BS.

Re: Slicks vs radials [Re: 8secDart] #1556033
12/31/13 03:47 AM
12/31/13 03:47 AM
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,319
Puyallup, WA
S
StealthWedge67 Offline
master
StealthWedge67  Offline
master
S

Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,319
Puyallup, WA
Quote:

Quote:

I understand and agree with the consitency thing with Bias Ply slicks; but if its a street / strip car: No brainer as far as I'm concerned.... RADIALS. Having the car wander around on the street with Bias ply tires is not something that interests me. And I've done a few passes with Bias Slicks, and radials up front.... That was flat out scary at the top, NO THANKS!

Now, I'll admit I have the luxury of both tracks I get to are always very well prepped, but still I don't think there's anything that would cause me to go to bias ply tires for a street car.




If your car drove like that on the big end you had to low PSI in rear tires.The rear and front tires have no idea which one is on either end.That is just plain and simple BS.




I'm not the only one that has experienced ill handling with a mix of Radials up front and Bias plys out back. Radials and Bias Plys will track differently, which can create problems. No sir, it wasn't just because I had the pressure wrong, and No Sir, it is not BS. What I will admit to, is that I looked back at the O.P., and realize that I was wrong about the street driving. I see now that it is a 100% strip car. In that case, I would go Bias-Plys. But, I would still NOT mix them.

Last edited by StealthWedge67; 12/31/13 03:50 AM.

LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120
Re: Slicks vs radials [Re: 8secDart] #1556034
12/31/13 04:16 AM
12/31/13 04:16 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
3
383man Offline
Too Many Posts
383man  Offline
Too Many Posts
3

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
Quote:

Quote:

I understand and agree with the consitency thing with Bias Ply slicks; but if its a street / strip car: No brainer as far as I'm concerned.... RADIALS. Having the car wander around on the street with Bias ply tires is not something that interests me. And I've done a few passes with Bias Slicks, and radials up front.... That was flat out scary at the top, NO THANKS!

Now, I'll admit I have the luxury of both tracks I get to are always very well prepped, but still I don't think there's anything that would cause me to go to bias ply tires for a street car.




If your car drove like that on the big end you had to low PSI in rear tires.The rear and front tires have no idea which one is on either end.That is just plain and simple BS.





I can agree with "Stealthwedge67" as I had bias Hoosier QTP tires on my 63 with a standard street radial up front and did not care for how it handled at higher speeds like in the traps. When I decided to try a drag radial or radial slick it was no comparison as I myself did not relalize how much better the car tracked with radials all the way around and not mixing bias and radials. Since I drive my 63 on the street 99% of the time I will stay with radials all the way around. Now I do admit I run from 16 to 20 psi in the radial slicks where bias slicks I ran about 8 to 12 psi. But I will admit mixing bias and radials can make the car wander some so I would stick with one or the other myself and not mix them. Ron

Last edited by 383man; 12/31/13 04:18 AM.
Page 1 of 2 1 2






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1