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How NOT to add NOS #1554889
12/28/13 11:43 PM
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1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
6.143@110.85 mph
9.73@135.05 mph shifting at 6700 RPM
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

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Re: How NOT to add NOS [Re: pittsburghracer] #1554890
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Re: How NOT to add NOS [Re: pittsburghracer] #1554891
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wow! good for a laugh!

Re: How NOT to add NOS [Re: Deepockets] #1554892
12/29/13 12:26 AM
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Hmm. I bought stuff in a can that said 'NOS' I poured it into my gas tank. Did I do it right?


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Re: How NOT to add NOS [Re: 70Cuda383] #1554893
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LMAO

The box of rocks called... they want their dumb back.

What a bunch of idiots.

Re: How NOT to add NOS [Re: RobX4406] #1554894
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Quick and easy way to push out a head gasket.......LOL!!

Monte

Re: How NOT to add NOS [Re: Monte_Smith] #1554895
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Re: How NOT to add NOS [Re: Monte_Smith] #1554896
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Quote:

Quick and easy way to push out a head gasket.......LOL!!

Monte




So in your expert opinion, this IS NOT the correct tune up? I just want to make sure I am not using my wonderful Big Shot plate wrong adding all that fuel.

Re: How NOT to add NOS [Re: SpareParts] #1554897
12/29/13 12:04 PM
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Looks like somewhere between a 50 and 400 shot?

Kind of hard to tell with no control. I'm guessing that's why they make those neat jetted-nozzle thingies.


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Re: How NOT to add NOS [Re: Michael Ecks] #1554898
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without fuel to match it stoichiometric ratio..
they basically just put any flame/fire out in that motor...basically same as spraying it with a co2 fire extinguisher..


365" Iron J heads,,3480lbs best 1.39 60ft on SS springs.10.54,124 mph ...6.67 1/8th et.average 60fts 1.46 w/ small cam &.063 no2 pill tagged & insured
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Re: How NOT to add NOS [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #1554899
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Exactly the opposite. They ADDED an oxidizer, not removed it.
I did the exact same thing to a lawnmower that I repaired for a guy. He didn't want to pay me, so he left with a lawnmower that didn't work.


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Re: How NOT to add NOS [Re: pittsburghracer] #1554900
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We have done that on the dyno with some pretty good results. Spools the turbo faster and clears up the smoke..............in a diesel lol.


68 Barracuda Formula S 340
87 "Chrysler" Conquest
Re: How NOT to add NOS [Re: Bad340fish] #1554901
12/29/13 03:19 PM
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did that to a stone stock 8:1 350 in tech school. 500 whp for a second lol, and then pistons in the oil pan.

Re: How NOT to add NOS [Re: cj391] #1554902
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Love the sound of that lonely turbo spooling down for the last time ....................


Gas is fer washin' parts ....Alky`s fer drinkin' ...Nitro`s fer Racin'!
Re: How NOT to add NOS [Re: chryco] #1554903
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pittsburghracer Offline OP
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This is one reason IF I ever have the need for some spray I will be giving Monte a call. I can't afford to do a bone-head move.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
6.143@110.85 mph
9.73@135.05 mph shifting at 6700 RPM
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: How NOT to add NOS [Re: pittsburghracer] #1554904
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Just the dose of pure nitrous is not what hurt it, because without the proper amount of fuel to go with the added oxidizer, you are not doing anything.............BUT.........in this instance, as obviously they were "tuning" on the car, I would bet my bottom dollar the tune was rich. So when they hit it with all the nitrous, the tune got "clean" for a split second(you hear the motor rev)it made some real power, was over timed for that power and pushed a head gasket out.

Monte

Re: How NOT to add NOS [Re: Monte_Smith] #1554905
12/29/13 04:12 PM
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the new style fogger system.haha

Re: How NOT to add NOS [Re: hp340nos] #1554906
12/29/13 06:55 PM
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Why am I not surprised that this happened near where I live?


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Re: How NOT to add NOS [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #1554907
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"without fuel to match it stoichiometric ratio"

Stoichiometric is irrelevant to tuning an engine for power except as a point of departure: find it, and go lower.
14.7:1 etc. is definitely not what you want to make with nitrous.
The real question isn't rich or not, but how rich.


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Re: How NOT to add NOS [Re: polyspheric] #1554908
12/30/13 10:01 AM
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Quote:

Stoichiometric is irrelevant




It would be relevant if we knew the stoichiometric ratio for aluminum!

Maybe they did find a new way to aluminize exhaust pipes from the inside to prevent rust...

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