Re: Body still leans, even with brand new springs
[Re: VoodooCLD]
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12/26/13 01:32 AM
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My old RR leans a little bit. It's not exactly symmetric. If I make it all even-Steven in the back, the front will be off a little bit. It's just like that, or the unibody has twisted a little bit after so many years.
My 99 F150 is not quite symmetric either. I think that's just how it is sometimes with stuff that was mass produced as fast as possible.
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Re: Body still leans, even with brand new springs
[Re: VoodooCLD]
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12/26/13 01:22 PM
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You might call a frame/body shop & see what they'd want just to check if it's tweaked
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Re: Body still leans, even with brand new springs
[Re: VoodooCLD]
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12/26/13 03:10 PM
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I did quite a bit of measuring, and got the torsion bars and front end set at the same height. Still have a pretty good lean out back.
This is the issue. To offset the back, you can't have the front at identical heights. You would need to adjust the opposing corner down, so you passenger side t-bar needs to be backed out a bit, or your driver's side needs to crank in a bit.
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Re: Body still leans, even with brand new springs
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12/26/13 05:43 PM
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Many FSM's have the body specs in them, you could measure things but sounds like you have a body tweak issue to me.
If it really bothers you, add a shim between the axle perch and the spring on the "low" side.
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Re: Body still leans, even with brand new springs
[Re: BDW]
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12/26/13 08:58 PM
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Every time I put SS springs on a car I have to adjust the torsion bars a good bit to get it sitting level. Even if the front looks level I still adjust them and get the front and rear within a 1/2 on both sides at front and rear. You have to work them a little at a time and then bounce the heck out of it before you take a reading. If the R/R is still lower then the L/R then either lower the L/F or raise the R/F some. You really have to work at it but you can get them all within a 1/2" which is acceptable to me. Ron
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Re: Body still leans, even with brand new springs
[Re: 383man]
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12/27/13 01:11 AM
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Every time I put SS springs on a car I have to adjust the torsion bars a good bit to get it sitting level. Even if the front looks level I still adjust them and get the front and rear within a 1/2 on both sides at front and rear. You have to work them a little at a time and then bounce the heck out of it before you take a reading. If the R/R is still lower then the L/R then either lower the L/F or raise the R/F some. You really have to work at it but you can get them all within a 1/2" which is acceptable to me. Ron
You can...But stuper stocks, and all the other repo styles lean...Everyone straightens them out by tweeking the torsion bars which goofs up the corner weights if you scale it...Go to Calvert Mono's, and there will be no lean...Dead even....1.48 60ft on pump gas with mine..hooks in a car wash.
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Re: Body still leans, even with brand new springs
[Re: Dragula]
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12/27/13 02:05 AM
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Every time I put SS springs on a car I have to adjust the torsion bars a good bit to get it sitting level. Even if the front looks level I still adjust them and get the front and rear within a 1/2 on both sides at front and rear. You have to work them a little at a time and then bounce the heck out of it before you take a reading. If the R/R is still lower then the L/R then either lower the L/F or raise the R/F some. You really have to work at it but you can get them all within a 1/2" which is acceptable to me. Ron
You can...But stuper stocks, and all the other repo styles lean...Everyone straightens them out by tweeking the torsion bars which goofs up the corner weights if you scale it...Go to Calvert Mono's, and there will be no lean...Dead even....1.48 60ft on pump gas with mine..hooks in a car wash.
You are right it will throw off the corner weight but for a street car I dont think they will ever notice anything as none of my friends have. I did the same with my 63 and I have not scaled it with corner weights as I have only weighed the car itself. But I know mine off some as I can see on the launch the left side comes up more then the right side but it goes as straight as an arrow and works good for a leaf spring street car. It is kinda goofy how far off some cars sit after putting SS springs on it. I considered caltracs for my 63 but with a 1.50 sixty at 10.70's I really dont think it will pick up alot. Ron
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Re: Body still leans, even with brand new springs
[Re: 383man]
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12/27/13 07:44 PM
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Every time I put SS springs on a car I have to adjust the torsion bars a good bit to get it sitting level. Even if the front looks level I still adjust them and get the front and rear within a 1/2 on both sides at front and rear. You have to work them a little at a time and then bounce the heck out of it before you take a reading. If the R/R is still lower then the L/R then either lower the L/F or raise the R/F some. You really have to work at it but you can get them all within a 1/2" which is acceptable to me. Ron
You can...But stuper stocks, and all the other repo styles lean...Everyone straightens them out by tweeking the torsion bars which goofs up the corner weights if you scale it...Go to Calvert Mono's, and there will be no lean...Dead even....1.48 60ft on pump gas with mine..hooks in a car wash.
You are right it will throw off the corner weight but for a street car I dont think they will ever notice anything as none of my friends have. I did the same with my 63 and I have not scaled it with corner weights as I have only weighed the car itself. But I know mine off some as I can see on the launch the left side comes up more then the right side but it goes as straight as an arrow and works good for a leaf spring street car. It is kinda goofy how far off some cars sit after putting SS springs on it. I considered caltracs for my 63 but with a 1.50 sixty at 10.70's I really dont think it will pick up alot. Ron
I did play with the torsion bars quite a bit, to try and get it level. No ammount of tweaking seemed to make it significantly better. Where can i get some shims to lower the passenger side (i think i like the lower stance of the drivers side better)
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Re: Body still leans, even with brand new springs
[Re: VoodooCLD]
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12/27/13 08:14 PM
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i know this sounds simplistic, but dont forget the battery, steering column and gearbox, p/s pump, master cylinder, pedal assemblies, etc, are all on the drivers side. (in most cases). you add it up, you are looking at several hundred (or more) pounds of extra weight hanging on the drivers side of the car. get a 200 pound guy to sit of the pass fender, and measure again. i bet the numbers are really close. 
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