70 'Cuda Ashtray, how to refinish
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12/22/13 03:53 AM
12/22/13 03:53 AM
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Dry Heat AZ
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Thought I would post this as a two fold item,
1) to provide hope to those with a trashy pitted ashtray
2) to hopefully find and easier way, for the future
Attached is a picture of what I started with, a bit rough, once disassembled I spent countless hours (ok, maybe 40 or so) making little rubber blocks and block sanding as best I could, to remove pits from the inside surfaces. I know it's not perfect, but I was going insane trying to sand the thing.
Then I proceeded to have issues zinc plating (I do my own plating) and plated it three times, stripping it the first two times because the finish was pretty sub par. The exterior always seemed to cooperate but the internal pocket must have been shielded from the current, once I got the amperage up and used a conforming anode the results were at least acceptable.
So what do others do?? certainly there must be an easier way.
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Re: 70 'Cuda Ashtray, how to refinish
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#1551381
12/22/13 08:27 PM
12/22/13 08:27 PM
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MetroWest, MA.
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On my 70 Super Bee (I know not an E-body) I searched junkyards and my parts stash until I found a tray that was not super rusty, which I think is one that was non-smoker used. I removed it from the housing, sandblasted it, painted it with Mopar Performance Musclecar Wheel Paint (part# 4529876) and installed in the housing from my car. Came out pretty nice, if I do say so myself  I have also used the Wheel Paint on the mast of bumper jacks and it looks pretty close to the original finish, in my opinion anyway.
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Re: 70 'Cuda Ashtray, how to refinish
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#1551383
12/22/13 09:39 PM
12/22/13 09:39 PM
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Vancouver, WA
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Nicely done and than you for sharing.  Quote:
Rust remover will remove the rust, unfortunately the pits are left behind. If you plate or paint over pits they are still visible.
As I stated, sanding inside the ashtray while trying to maintain a flat surface was a bear. Between the beads and the bends it's a near impossible task. I had to make a few rubber and wood sanding blocks to attach paper for sanding. Lets just say I'm THRILLED this is behind me.
As for the rivets, like many used in MOPAR assemblies, they are semi tubular rivets available through Jay-Cee rivets. They have information on their site to help you determine correct rivet length. I suggest keeping your shank and head from the drilled out fastener so you know for sure your ordering the correct head style and shank diameter. They also sell the tool to upset the rivet tail, only issue is its to long to fit in the ashtray, and I didn't want to cut mine in half, so we made one. Not as nice as the purchased one but worked for this application.
As for plating, it's a hobby in itself.
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Re: 70 'Cuda Ashtray, how to refinish
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#1551384
12/22/13 10:18 PM
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As for the rivets, like many used in MOPAR assemblies, they are semi tubular rivets available through Jay-Cee rivets.
I have, in stock, hundreds of the correct rivets for most applications used on E-bodies and some B-bodies.
If anyone is interested, PM me.
including: Wiper motor rivets, washer pump rivets, starter relay rivets, ash tray, E-brake handle rivets, challenger grille rivets, etc.
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Re: 70 'Cuda Ashtray, how to refinish
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12/23/13 01:17 AM
12/23/13 01:17 AM
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Connecticut
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Quote:
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As for the rivets, like many used in MOPAR assemblies, they are semi tubular rivets available through Jay-Cee rivets.
I have, in stock, hundreds of the correct rivets for most applications used on E-bodies and some B-bodies.
If anyone is interested, PM me.
including: Wiper motor rivets, washer pump rivets, starter relay rivets, ash tray, E-brake handle rivets, challenger grille rivets, etc.
How about those funny looking rivets(?) on the hood latch? They have little dots on the heads. I guess you would need a press and something that replicates the dots.
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