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Aluminium fuel line pressure? #1542224
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Looking to buy my fuel line out of jegs and their 3/8 coil aluminum line says 25psi max I'm kind of confused over this being that it is a metallic line you would think it would hold more. My pump pushes around 50psi. Does anyone know where I can buy metallic line that is rated higher?

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Inverteed flare steel line. The aluminum uses tube inserts or shoulders, but the biggest problem is it is very crack prone, and not what I would want on a 50PSI sytem.


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what are you running that requires 50psi? I wouldn't run aluminum lines with today's choices out there.

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I dont know why they state 25 psi as the max.. that
line has a MUCH higher burst pressure... hell in a
production car they use plastic lines and run 50#
line pressure... yes the fittings tend to be leak points
and if the line is held correctly then even cracking
is down to a minimum... I ran 1/2" alum line on my
car and had it on there for 10 years without a single
leak... I changed over to braided line and now I am
thinking to go back to alum

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what are you running that requires 50psi? I wouldn't run aluminum lines with today's choices out there.




If his regulator is up front and his pump output
is that high then the line pressure is 50#

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what are you running that requires 50psi? I wouldn't run aluminum lines with today's choices out there.




If his regulator is up front and his pump output
is that high then the line pressure is 50#



I understand that but most pumps can be turned down at the pump

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Im guessing an EFI system.

Plastic may be ok in a production car, but I doubt it allowed in a race car.

With the lite weight braided lines now, I wouldnt go backwards.


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Im guessing an EFI system.


yes thats what I figured, but if it's not needed why run that much pressure?

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Im guessing an EFI system.


yes thats what I figured, but if it's not needed why run that much pressure?




I am currently running a carb but EFI is in the near future. My plan is to run ford style injectors which I have that are rated at 43psi. My EFI system is GM so my pressure will be at 58psi like a standard GM system. It will have a variable pump control so it will not be at 58 all the time but under boost it will be 58 or more. This also lets me run a smaller injector too. I can run injectors rated at 42lbs @43psi @80%duty cycle. At 58 psi they will be in the 50lb range @ 80% duty cycle and maybe higher @ 95%. My intention is to balance the injector sizing so that I can get better economy at cruise and idle and still have enough for the boost at WOT.

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I dont know why they state 25 psi as the max.. that
line has a MUCH higher burst pressure... hell in a
production car they use plastic lines and run 50#
line pressure... yes the fittings tend to be leak points
and if the line is held correctly then even cracking
is down to a minimum... I ran 1/2" alum line on my
car and had it on there for 10 years without a single
leak... I changed over to braided line and now I am
thinking to go back to alum




When you say held correctly you mean "floating" in rubber isolators? Thats how I planned on hanging it, but If there is a better way I'll do it. And yes you talked me out of putting the reg. at the back lol

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look at some of the new twist tite fuel line from summit, it will more than handle the pressure and easy to run.

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I too want to run all new solid lines on mine. I'd much rather do that than run 2 sets of braided line the length of the vehicle. I had looked at the aluminum stuff - but don't want to risk the 85psi of fuel pressure (when in boost) with it.

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twist-tite will handle 250psi

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When you say held correctly you mean "floating" in rubber isolators? Thats how I planned on hanging it, but If there is a better way I'll do it. And yes you talked me out of putting the reg. at the back lol




Yes I mean rubber isolated clamps

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How long will it handle the ethanol fuel blends before it all needs to be replaced again?

I know that all my previous experience with steel braided lines showed a pretty short life span before leaks appeared due to the breakdown of the hose inside. I'm trying to avoid having to replace the entire lengths and just have to replace the short sections between components when the braided stuff ages.

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One reason for running a aluminum line is you don't have to worry about the rubber breaking down because of the ethanol in the fuel. I've seen the inside of braided line on my friends car after just two years on pump gas...needless to say he is putting metal back on this winter. I know there is PTFE coated stuff and nitrile and all that but for the price difference if this aluminum line will handle the pressure I'd rather have metal any day.

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don't know you will have to call and ask, I have had ethanol in my braided line going on 2 years with no leaks.

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don't know you will have to call and ask, I have had ethanol in my braided line going on 2 years with no leaks.




I have 4 or 5 years on my braided line running E-85
for that time period and no issues

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The Ethanol will eat non hard anadized aluminum just like Methanol does even our local E10% pump gas will OP, make sure and buy hard anadized coated, inside and outside aluminum line and fittings for your deal That or stainless steel lines Teflon lined hose will not be affected by either type of pure or mixed alcholol is what I have told by the airplane industry, Teflon is the answer for heat, pressure and corrosive liquids according to them


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I think my choice will be stainless lines.

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