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Re: E-body front suspension question
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11/17/13 12:23 PM
11/17/13 12:23 PM
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RapidRobert
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Any possibility it's the oddball (wrong) Kmember?
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Re: E-body front suspension question
[Re: 340swing]
#1531013
11/17/13 01:42 PM
11/17/13 01:42 PM
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Is the mounting bracket that the top of the box bolts to square and undamaged looking? maybe someone ran over something in the road in the past and clipped the drag link/pitman are area and pushed it up there slightly. Should be easy to see with the box removed. Sorry I can't help you with the casting numbers on the box, mine has power steering.
Yeah, it's hopped up to over 160...
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Re: E-body front suspension question
[Re: 340swing]
#1531015
11/17/13 01:53 PM
11/17/13 01:53 PM
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Couple of things.Nothing to add about the steering box itself,I had always assumed the car boxes were all dimensionally the same, and had heard that thru 'tribal wisdom' also.I personally have a 'police/taxi'F body one in my '73 chall with zero issues.I will say that raybestos makes NAPA chassis now, and TWO pitman arms had the spline broached too big and it sat too far down on the spline to tighten up. (Maybe yours seated farther down with the new part?) I believe I ended up with MOOG stuff last summer.It worked. K member could have taken a 'whang' somewhere in it's life (that's why some gusset the box mount and someone is making that cool lower bearing support), wouldn't take much of a hit to tweak the idler arm mount, it is only thick sheet metal. On my Clonerunner, previous owner adjusted steering box center screw all the way out, allowing the pitman shaft to move "up" into the box, and begin to consume the header tube, which is kind of where your issue is, too.Part of the clue was the drag link rubbing on the oil pan. Chassis shims are readily available at NAPA, they use various thicknesses for like the early GM 'dogbone' control arms.  Hope this helps. Bear
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Re: E-body front suspension question
[Re: jt4406]
#1531016
11/17/13 02:01 PM
11/17/13 02:01 PM
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Found this on "For A bodies only"
(The early box number is cast behind the LH mounting ear and will be a 2267162 or 2267225 for a bushing type or bearing type respectively. The '67-up box has number 2537349 cast into it on the round section the pitman shaft passes through)
No mention of only fitting A bodies. Everywhere else I looked says the boxes are the same for A/B and E bodies.
Yeah, it's hopped up to over 160...
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Re: E-body front suspension question
[Re: jt4406]
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11/17/13 02:21 PM
11/17/13 02:21 PM
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Found this on "For A bodies only"
(The early box number is cast behind the LH mounting ear and will be a 2267162 or 2267225 for a bushing type or bearing type respectively. The '67-up box has number 2537349 cast into it on the round section the pitman shaft passes through)
No mention of only fitting A bodies. Everywhere else I looked says the boxes are the same for A/B and E bodies.
Something knocking around in my head about the A bods only having brass or bronze bushings somewhere inside, and the B s and E s getting bearings.(Maybe Ehrenbergs column at some point)
BTW where IS Ehrenberg on all of this? 
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Re: E-body front suspension question
[Re: Sixgun]
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11/17/13 03:25 PM
11/17/13 03:25 PM
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BTW where IS Ehrenberg on all of this?
If the OP was installing some 73-up (tall) B spindles on his ride, Rick would be all over this post  .... 
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Re: E-body front suspension question
[Re: Sixgun]
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11/17/13 03:30 PM
11/17/13 03:30 PM
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Western Colorado High Desert
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Found this on "For A bodies only"
(The early box number is cast behind the LH mounting ear and will be a 2267162 or 2267225 for a bushing type or bearing type respectively. The '67-up box has number 2537349 cast into it on the round section the pitman shaft passes through)
No mention of only fitting A bodies. Everywhere else I looked says the boxes are the same for A/B and E bodies.
Something knocking around in my head about the A bods only having brass or bronze bushings somewhere inside, and the B s and E s getting bearings.(Maybe Ehrenbergs column at some point)
BTW where IS Ehrenberg on all of this?
As I stated before, 70/1 FPM shows A-body with /6 got the bushed unit. All others got the bearing unit.
72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/motormangj@gmail.com
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Re: E-body front suspension question
[Re: moparmarks]
#1531021
11/17/13 03:44 PM
11/17/13 03:44 PM
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Found this on "For A bodies only"
(The early box number is cast behind the LH mounting ear and will be a 2267162 or 2267225 for a bushing type or bearing type respectively. The '67-up box has number 2537349 cast into it on the round section the pitman shaft passes through)
No mention of only fitting A bodies. Everywhere else I looked says the boxes are the same for A/B and E bodies.
Something knocking around in my head about the A bods only having brass or bronze bushings somewhere inside, and the B s and E s getting bearings.(Maybe Ehrenbergs column at some point)
BTW where IS Ehrenberg on all of this?
As I stated before, 70/1 FPM shows A-body with /6 got the bushed unit. All others got the bearing unit.
Sorry, Marks, missed that... Yes ,you did say that already.
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Re: E-body front suspension question
[Re: DAYCLONA]
#1531022
11/17/13 03:46 PM
11/17/13 03:46 PM
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BTW where IS Ehrenberg on all of this?
If the OP was installing some 73-up (tall) B spindles on his ride, Rick would be all over this post ....
And THAT, my friend, is no baloney...   
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Re: E-body front suspension question
[Re: Sixgun]
#1531023
11/17/13 03:58 PM
11/17/13 03:58 PM
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Western Colorado High Desert
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Found this on "For A bodies only"
(The early box number is cast behind the LH mounting ear and will be a 2267162 or 2267225 for a bushing type or bearing type respectively. The '67-up box has number 2537349 cast into it on the round section the pitman shaft passes through)
No mention of only fitting A bodies. Everywhere else I looked says the boxes are the same for A/B and E bodies.
Something knocking around in my head about the A bods only having brass or bronze bushings somewhere inside, and the B s and E s getting bearings.(Maybe Ehrenbergs column at some point)
BTW where IS Ehrenberg on all of this?
As I stated before, 70/1 FPM shows A-body with /6 got the bushed unit. All others got the bearing unit.
Sorry, Marks, missed that... Yes ,you did say that already.
No worries.
72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/motormangj@gmail.com
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