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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: mitchell] #1525373
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Ok I'm confused. I looked at the US Car tool link on the sponsors page. Didn't look at everything but didn't see any restoration items like emblems on there. Was this going to be a one off trial and error see what it does for them and if it goes over they would try other related items? To me I only seen the body rated things. There isn't two US Car Tool places is there?


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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: MadMopars] #1525374
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Will U.S Car Tool be at SEMA?


I am not rich...but I get off my ass everyday to make sure I am not broke!

Can we get the Mexican cartels to help us with our supply chain issues? They don't seem to have any trouble getting stuff from one place to another.
Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: hotairballoonpilot] #1525375
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This was going to be a item for sale just like the items you see now.
He once sold a edge trim for 66/67 truck lid, don't know if he still has any.

Not sure of other U.S. Car Tools, but am sure I got the right John Pasemann.

Thanks.
Jim

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: mitchell] #1525376
11/05/13 12:58 AM
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Probably has a different LLC for the "restoration" stuff. That's how he can say with a straight face that US Car Tool doesn't owe you anything if in fact that is what has been said.
Him and however many LLC he may own or control are all separate entities just like you and I are.

I'm pretty sure this should be a matter of public record so you should be able to find out how many other LLC's if any he owns. Being as he might be a less than stand up guy, don't be surprised if there is in fact a different LLC that you contracted with, and that somebody else in his family ie his wife etc and not him, owns it.

Kevin

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: mitchell] #1525377
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s. She tolled me she spoke to John Pasemann about it and he said thats not this company.


Has his business changed in status since your encounter 8 years ago?

Corporate status,ownership,financial or was he acting as an agent in a partnership business outside his company?

If you're positive that it was John that you were talking to then,those are about the only choices of why "it is not this company"

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: mitchell] #1525378
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This was going to be a item for sale just like the items you see now.
He once sold a edge trim for 66/67 truck lid, don't know if he still has any.

Not sure of other U.S. Car Tools, but am sure I got the right John Pasemann.

Thanks.
Jim




The RIGHT US Car Tool .... and the RIGHT John Pasemann ..?? ..... THIS is getting good !! .... the plot thickens !!!

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: dOrk !] #1525379
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This can't be the only forum that knows of this
There's bound to be a good percentage of the 50 who are on some forum dealing with a Dodge Charger,B body etc

Tom,Jim, are either of you members of any other forum other than this one that you have mentioned any of your dealings in direct or passing?

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: dOrk !] #1525380
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The RIGHT US Car Tool .... and the RIGHT John Pasemann ..?? ..... THIS is getting good !! .... the plot thickens !!!




Devils advocate-

For the sake of argument, lets say there are two John Pasemann's who happen to have businesses call "US Car Tool".

(no chance right? but still hear me out.)

Would not the "other" John issue a statement that he has nothing to do with the first Johns tomfoolery? This is going to hurt someones business, if it was me I'd be out in front of it in a big way.

I don't have a horse in this race but I distinctly remember the medallions being worked on, there was a photo or two posted years ago. I am watching the thread to see how this all turns out though, important to only deal with trustworthy vendors in this business.




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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: dOrk !] #1525381
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Gee ! If I was wrongly accused, I would be on this forum, explaining myself ! I suspect right individual, maybe under different LLC . This sure has a negative influence on my trust to deal with a company associated with the accused ! I would recommend he post on here to clarify his situation, and either clear himself, clear the problem, or forever suffer the doubt that has been place on his integrity !


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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: doctor_mopar] #1525382
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Gee ! If I was wrongly accused, I would be on this forum, explaining myself ! I suspect right individual, maybe under different LLC . This sure has a negative influence on my trust to deal with a company associated with the accused ! I would recommend he post on here to clarify his situation, and either clear himself, clear the problem, or forever suffer the doubt that has been place on his integrity !




I agree with this statement 100%. The silence from US Car tool speaks volumns. They will never see any of my hard earned money no matter how great their products are.

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: AeroMonte] #1525383
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sponsorship to site should be revoked as well
lack of integrity to honoring contract.
op needs resolution - without; business reputation is tarnished

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: srt] #1525384
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Ohio has a website you can look up business names. State does it and you can see what names are already used and shows owners.maybe car tools state has this. It also shows if a business active. Good luck

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: mitchell] #1525385
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This was going to be a item for sale just like the items you see now.
He once sold a edge trim for 66/67 truck lid, don't know if he still has any.

Not sure of other U.S. Car Tools, but am sure I got the right John Pasemann.

Thanks.
Jim



Don't be upset with me or think I'm saying what you are saying isn't true. Just on my own went to check out his web site as honestly have not really looked at his dealings before mainly cause haven't needed his work(I do restoration work as a living) and his other items he sells haven't needed. Will say this we do need a front disc brake kit as I see he sells them but won't be sending money his way. I was going to post a few days ago asking who to buy from and honestly if this hadnt come to light and most would of said buy from US CAR TOOL. We probably would have as the price looks pretty good but not now! Guess if he's reading all these replies I hope he realizes this cost him a potential sale.


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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: Twostick] #1525386
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Probably has a different LLC for the "restoration" stuff. That's how he can say with a straight face that US Car Tool doesn't owe you anything if in fact that is what has been said.
Him and however many LLC he may own or control are all separate entities just like you and I are.

I'm pretty sure this should be a matter of public record so you should be able to find out how many other LLC's if any he owns. Being as he might be a less than stand up guy, don't be surprised if there is in fact a different LLC that you contracted with, and that somebody else in his family ie his wife etc and not him, owns it.

Kevin




Interesting, I guess the word "SCAM" in the OP's post title might be more appropriate now.

Kinda hard to track the money and pin responsibilty on a specific individual when they're playing the company name shell game.

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: KillerBee] #1525387
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I think the fact that he has not replied to this thread, speaks for itself. All it would take to satisfy the OP would be for "I'm sorry the deal never went through", ( insert your best lame excuse), AND refund the small amount of money. Then all his friends on Moparts could say what a standup guy he is. The longer he ignores this then, there are a lot of people here who will just think he is another business to stay away from. I'm just calling it like I see it.

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: hotairballoonpilot] #1525388
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Will say this we do need a front disc brake kit as I see he sells them but won't be sending money his way. I was going to post a few days ago asking who to buy from and honestly if this hadnt come to light and most would of said buy from US CAR TOOL. We probably would have as the price looks pretty good but not now! Guess if he's reading all these replies I hope he realizes this cost him a potential sale.




Dr. Diff has a variety of front and rear disk brake kits....from mild to wild.
http://www.doctordiff.com/brakes/complete-kits/

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: KillerBee] #1525389
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prior to deviating to the llc theory it is appropriate for the op to clarify to whom, or what business name he sent payment for goods.
edit-> I see op posted early in this thread payment was made by cc directly to "John Pasemann US Car Tools. Therefore no llc involved with purchase unless USCT is a llc.
unless I mis-understand op was not offered a "buy-in" to a llc, he was simply offered parts for a price, which price was refundable, in full, should the part not be produced.
no need to macerate and re-gurgitate a simple purchase agreement.

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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: srt] #1525390
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prior to deviating to the llc theory it is appropriate for the op to clarify to whom, or what business name he sent payment for goods.
edit-> I see op posted early in this thread payment was made by cc directly to "John Pasemann US Car Tools. Therefore no llc involved with purchase unless USCT is a llc.
unless I mis-understand op was not offered a "buy-in" to a llc, he was simply offered parts for a price, which price was refundable, in full, should the part not be produced.
no need to macerate and re-gurgitate a simple purchase agreement.




Just think how easy it would be for USCT to close the lid !!

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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: srt] #1525391
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Credit card statement shows a payment on 9/26/05 in the amount $275.00 to US CAR TOOL RALEIGH NC. I gave the credit informantion to John Pasemann by phone to place this order.

Thanks,
Jim

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nc also has the secretary of state website and there is info on us car tool website.
chris is shown as owner/manager and john is shown as owner on the usct website
nc sec of state shows no us car tool listing but under johns name is one business for "MONTCLAIR TECHNOLOGY, INC." whose agent is John Pasemann with the same street and town address as shown on us car tool website.
site shows Company Information and Report Status
All the above is public info as found on the web.
This info parallels other info found on the web, on moparts - this thread...

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