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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: BulletBob] #1525353
11/03/13 06:39 PM
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When you question a man's integrity you are basically calling him a liar
That's what you & others did.
Just because you didn't use the word doesn't mean that it wasn't implied

I'm well educated & the replies that you made put you in the shoes of the names you were called

If John is such a good friend to you then maybe he will listen to you on this subject that you inserted yourself into & figured out that you were wrong

Why don't you admit it instead of trying to attack those who called you out for it.




I always wonder what audience one thinks they are speaking to when making the statement "I'm well educated". Thank you for removing the implication.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: jcc] #1525354
11/03/13 06:42 PM
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Last warning.


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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: not_a_charger] #1525355
11/03/13 06:48 PM
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Please folks, this is a chance to do some good.

Thanks, Tom

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: not_a_charger] #1525356
11/03/13 06:48 PM
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Last warning.




Awwwwww........ C'mon othernodda..... Don't make it go away. Some of these guys are waaaayyy more entertaining than anything on TV right now.

(No disrespect to the op's dilemma....)


....evil is winning....
Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: Not_A_Duster] #1525357
11/03/13 06:48 PM
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I'm not going to make the thread go away...just the people hijacking it with their childish behavior.


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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: BulletBob] #1525358
11/03/13 07:30 PM
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I've made the mistake or choice to read all the responses on this and honestly couldn't tell you a 1/4 of what was said. Whats that really say? Regardless of the actual events or speculated events it's between the customer and the business and should not of had to come to this. I hope the business can make it right and take care of the customer. With today's way of life it's not the p!ss off a customer they tell 10 & please them they tell 2. It's far more get told if they are p!ssed. They need to make it right.


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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: Not_A_Duster] #1525359
11/03/13 09:36 PM
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Last warning.




Awwwwww........ C'mon othernodda..... Don't make it go away. Some of these guys are waaaayyy more entertaining than anything on TV right now.

(No disrespect to the op's dilemma....)



^^^^ ^^^^

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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: restoman] #1525360
11/03/13 10:24 PM
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I never intended this thread to turn in the direction it has. I did not think John would have allowed this to go on and maybe its gone on to long. But remember this is no one else's fault but John himself. It seems to me that people not even involved by this are getting hurt the most, members of this forum, his employee's, business relationships, etc...

John it's time to man up, pay back whom ever you owe and put this matter to rest.

For the respect of John's employee' and friends future comments should be more in line with getting this problem resolved in a manner that is fair to only those involved.

Thanks,
Jim

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: 68KillerBee] #1525361
11/03/13 11:34 PM
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...some are calling out good standing members because they stuck up for a "friend". Tell me you wouldn't do the same.




I wouldn't if I was pretty sure that my friend was in the wrong. I'd talk to the friend privately and try to help him deal with the problem. If he wanted no part of my help, I'd leave it alone...both with him and with the board.

Additionally, if the friend did something that I considered unethical that hurt a bunch of people, I'd have to think long and hard about whether I wanted to continue that friendship. If it involved a business matter, and we also had a business relationship, I'd worry about the reputation of MY business through association, and I'd also worry if down the line maybe it will be my turn to be a victim.

I am a very loyal friend, but don't ever believe in blind loyalty.


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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: calmopar] #1525362
11/04/13 06:02 AM
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...some are calling out good standing members because they stuck up for a "friend". Tell me you wouldn't do the same.




I wouldn't if I was pretty sure that my friend was in the wrong. I'd talk to the friend privately and try to help him deal with the problem. If he wanted no part of my help, I'd leave it alone...both with him and with the board.

Additionally, if the friend did something that I considered unethical that hurt a bunch of people, I'd have to think long and hard about whether I wanted to continue that friendship. If it involved a business matter, and we also had a business relationship, I'd worry about the reputation of MY business through association, and I'd also worry if down the line maybe it will be my turn to be a victim.

I am a very loyal friend, but don't ever believe in blind loyalty.




That friend is a good guy who like everyone else has made a mistake I've made the same mistake myself
I've been in contact with him & he wants to see good come from this post as do I.

Those guys need to get their $$$ cash back

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: BulletBob] #1525363
11/04/13 09:50 AM
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I hope it gets worked out and the folks who lost money get it back, it has been stated before we need good vendors to keep our hobby healthy. Come on US CARTOOL let us know what is happening.

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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: hemirdrnnr] #1525364
11/04/13 10:23 AM
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My dealings with John have been good. I hope he comes through and makes everything right.


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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: OhioMopar] #1525365
11/04/13 11:21 AM
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I've read most of this thread,at least what was worthy.Regardless of the outcome,you will have a business man with a tainted reputation that will have an everlasting effect that could have been avoided with a simple explanation,that still has not happened !!

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: 62maxwgn] #1525366
11/04/13 11:39 AM
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US Car Tool has not contacted Tom (Moparts), either. Just an FYI.


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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: not_a_charger] #1525367
11/04/13 11:45 AM
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The internet can be used for many bad things but in this type of situation it is beneficial. Even if the $$$ is not refunded to the OP others now know about this company and what they did to people who entrusted them (The people who entrusted US Car Tool)


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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: 2boltmain] #1525368
11/04/13 01:42 PM
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I got a message and I want to clear this up, US Car Tool makes excellent products, the frame connectors, torque boxes, inner fender items all work very well and the quality is A1. Chris is a great fabricator and can work wonders with metal. I never said their products weren't good. This thread is about simple business and practices just so everyone knows where I stand.

Last edited by HMcCandless_Jr; 11/04/13 01:47 PM.
Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: not_a_charger] #1525369
11/04/13 01:52 PM
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Update:

Last week I called U.S. Car Tool's Shop and got though!
Spoke with Charlene, and she said to Email her the refund inforamation. I called back today @ 11:30 AM and asked her about the status. She tolled me she spoke to John Pasemann about it and he said thats not this company.

Also I have been contacted by another person that this has happen to.
That makes 3 who are still owed and 2 that have been reinbursed.

And still no word from John?

News like this makes me more determined then ever to get everyones money back!

Thanks,
Jim

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: HMcCandless_Jr] #1525370
11/04/13 01:54 PM
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I agree everything I bought from them is first class, if this is cleared up I will continue to buy from them. I just can't understand why they won't comment on the problem.

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: mitchell] #1525371
11/04/13 04:46 PM
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Update:

Last week I called U.S. Car Tool's Shop and got though!
Spoke with Charlene, and she said to Email her the refund inforamation. I called back today @ 11:30 AM and asked her about the status. She tolled me she spoke to John Pasemann about it and he said thats not this company.

Also I have been contacted by another person that this has happen to.
That makes 3 who are still owed and 2 that have been reinbursed.

And still no word from John?

News like this makes me more determined then ever to get everyones money back!

Thanks,
Jim




Now ain't that some funny business!!!

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: mitchell] #1525372
11/04/13 04:59 PM
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Update:

Last week I called U.S. Car Tool's Shop and got though!
Spoke with Charlene, and she said to Email her the refund inforamation. I called back today @ 11:30 AM and asked her about the status. She tolled me she spoke to John Pasemann about it and he said thats not this company.

Also I have been contacted by another person that this has happen to.
That makes 3 who are still owed and 2 that have been reinbursed.

And still no word from John?

News like this makes me more determined then ever to get everyones money back!

Thanks,
Jim




I personally will not be ordering anything from U.S. Car Tool until I have heard that this has been resolved. I can not believe they have made no attempt to offer at least a credit if the funds are not available to reimburse you guys. For this post to be active as long as it has with no response from the company to try to maintain it's reputation or display professionalism blows my mind. The waiting continues I guess. Sorry to see this continue for all...

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