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U.S. Car Tool " Scam" #1525193
10/29/13 01:29 PM
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I just wanted to see if anyone here is aware or was victim of U.S. Car Tool's scam.

Back in the summer of 2005 John Pasemann of U.S. Car Tool was offering a discount for advanced orders on a reproduction of the 1966/67 Charger deck lid medallion, needing 50 orders to help defray some of the upfront tooling costs.He posted on various forums all the details of the part and even had pictures of the mould he had made to make the outter ring, stating deliveries would come in the winter of 2005/ spring 2006. On 9/26/05 I gave John my credit card information and order one, soon after he posted that he had the 50 orders he needed to proceed. I called John back in the spring of 2006, he tolled me that he was delayed trying to find a chrome plater that could do the brushed finish.That summer at the Carlisle Mopar show U.S. Car Tool had a completed outter ring on display (it looked good).

Months later John informed me of a new problem finding someone that could do the plastic injection needed for the insert. Months later he told me no progess was made and that he could no longer tell me when I could expect to get this part.The next time I called John I asked him just to give me the outter ring and call it even, he agreed but never sent the part. Then he said he lost the mould, and then he found it and so on.

I have since asked for my money back. Now he does not returm my call oe Emails, the shop does not pick up my calls or hangs up on me when I tell them whats it about. At this point I don't expect to get my money back or U.S. Car Tool to fulfill their obligations.
Let this post serve as warning to anyone who wishes to do business with John Pasemann and/or U.S. Car Tool, DON'T DO IT !

Thanks,
Jim Mitchell

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: mitchell] #1525194
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I have had nothing but good deals with John. Way back to when he lived up north and was working out his basement. In fact I have one of hos very first rotisseries.
Any Time I had a question he was on the phone picking it up, or called back asap.
Did you call talk with him lately?
Sounds like this deal was long ago and long forgotten. As in he may even know he owes you one or the $ back. Let us know how it works out


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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: 340SIX] #1525195
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I can't speak for the medallion issue but my subframe connectors arrived less than a week after being ordered. First rate seller in my book for that one.


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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: rrbrucea] #1525197
10/29/13 04:30 PM
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John is good people and I can say without hesitation that my Road Runner would NOT be up and running without their help. They have never been anything but straight up, honest, and wonderful to deal with, often times going far above and beyond. I've always had good dealings with John and his crew!




Since you live in NC and US Car Tool is in NC.....

I will be in Raleigh all next week, but I don't think I'll have time to go to US Car Tool myself, there for work purposes.


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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" *DELETED* [Re: Supercuda] #1525198
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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: rrbrucea] #1525199
10/29/13 05:06 PM
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John is good people and I can say without hesitation that my Road Runner would NOT be up and running without their help. They have never been anything but straight up, honest, and wonderful to deal with, often times going far above and beyond. I've always had good dealings with John and his crew!




Kinda off topic, but I think a four speed legend fixed that Road Runner, , now John post on here quite a bit so I guess we will see what he says.

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: rrbrucea] #1525200
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So it's hard for me to imagine the phone calls are going unanswered.




Yes, I know. One post wonder started the thread, then vanished like a fart in a windstorm.


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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: Supercuda] #1525201
10/29/13 06:18 PM
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So it's hard for me to imagine the phone calls are going unanswered.




Yes, I know. One post wonder started the thread, then vanished like a fart in a windstorm.





Ummmm, he posted 3 hours ago, not months. Nobody sits and hovers orer a post to get their info, so ill give him some time to respond before making a decision. Still, 8 years is a long time to wait for a part that never arrived.

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: migsBIG] #1525202
10/29/13 06:30 PM
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So it's hard for me to imagine the phone calls are going unanswered.




Yes, I know. One post wonder started the thread, then vanished like a fart in a windstorm.





Ummmm, he posted 3 hours ago, not months. Nobody sits and hovers over a post to get their info, so ill give him some time to respond before making a decision. Still, 8 years is a long time to wait for a part that never arrived.




I agree, but 8 years is also a long time to wait to bit$h about it. I'm always a bit skeptical about newly registered members that use their chance at making a first impression one like this. I have know people who have dealt w/John and have never heard anything neg before this.....

Just my .....

Bryan



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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: mitchell] #1525203
10/29/13 06:39 PM
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Your first post is this??

Why after 8 years?? You should have gone about it differently here, but I bet you don't care and won't be around here anyhow.

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: mitchell] #1525204
10/29/13 09:38 PM
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Response to all.

Posting on this forum was suggested to me by somebody thinking it might help me locate the other 50 people this happened to, so that we could work together to get our money back. This may be my first posting but by no means is it my first attempt to get my money back. This has been going on for years, I just haven't given up yet.

I have contacted the Better Business Bureau and Consumer Protection Services of NC and neither one of the was able to get a response from John and/or U.S. Car Tool. They told me to try small claims but I think I would have to show up in court in person and living in NJ would make this hard to do.

My post is accurate and I can back it up.

I have my Master Card statement showing payment to U.S. Car Tool on 9/26/05 for $275.00.

I also made copies of some of Johns postings on other forums about taking orders, the delays, refunds etc... A lot of these postings can still be seen by searching on Google, but a lot are gone (like the one showing the picture of the mold).

My last response from John was on 3/22/12 he stated "no status change" and "project continues"

To all the people that had no problems with John Pasemann and/or U.S. Car Tool, I'm glad for you, but be aware. If you think I am wrong about John then prove me wrong. Ask him about this and you will find that everything I said is true.

Better yet why doesn't John respond himself.

Thanks,
Jim Mitchell

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: migsBIG] #1525205
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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: Supercuda] #1525206
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I don't even think John would try and say he sent me this part.

What I think happened was that he never got permission to use the Chrysler logos, so it would be against the law to sell them. I might be wrong, don't know for sure.

Thanks,
Jim

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: mitchell] #1525207
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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: mitchell] #1525208
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Sooooo can't you dispute the charge with your CC company and get the money back?


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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: Triple Threat] #1525209
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Sooooo can't you dispute the charge with your CC company and get the money back?




I dont think that is possible after 9 years.


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I waited to long ( 2 years ) before I realised he had no intentions of fulfilling his obligation. I trusted John, he strung me out by telling me of the problems he was having but promised he would get it done. In his last Email to me 3/22/12 he still say's he is working on it. John has not responded to me since than.
I will get my money back.

Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam" [Re: mitchell] #1525211
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This entire affair is a bit odd. IMO regardless of the time frame, I agree you should get your money back, and its not clear until I hear the other sides story why, that hasn't happen, since we are talkin some change IMO, mainly because the bad press has no upside for the vendor.

And it hasn't risen to the level of "scam", yet.


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John took money from a least 50 other people, thats a scam.
You can still find some of there complaints about this, if you search Google.

I just want John / U.S Car Tool to do the right thing and pay us back.

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