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So, I ask this to Brett.....Is there a chance at 5.0's with a max effort N/A SB build based around your current "big" port at 417 CID and still be a reliable bracket car? And I'm trimming weight again this winter....should be around 2740 race weight.

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So, I ask this to Brett.....Is there a chance at 5.0's with a max effort N/A SB build based around your current "big" port at 417 CID and still be a reliable bracket car? And I'm trimming weight again this winter....should be around 2740 race weight.

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Great job....the car is flying.


"Max effort" and reliable bracket car are usually not found in the same sentence. Although if you get that car down in the 2700# range, a truely max effort W8 with a sheet, 2 x 4 and all the other ingredients will go well past 1000hp.

Might need a Proflite to run in the 5.0 range though....that is fast for an N/A straight headed smallblock at that weight, but I think Paul Ricci has run 8ohs at E-Town around 2800#.

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I'm sure there are quicker out there, but parts to parts I think we are doing very well. These are 17 year old heads with a modern port and small cam, single 4bbl, small cast intake (and not the "good" one).

You are right Jim, reliable and max effort are different things which is why I'm torn over putting a big wedge in this or making this combo quicker at the cost of reliability.

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So, I ask this to Brett.....Is there a chance at 5.0's with a max effort N/A SB build based around your current "big" port at 417 CID and still be a reliable bracket car? And I'm trimming weight again this winter....should be around 2740 race weight.

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I can't Promise anything but I would work my a$$ off for you.

I can send big port to HRE and get manifold started :-)

1.00" of cam 9500 RPM springs 30-50 passes

I think we can make 100-150 more HP

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Hauling the mail for sure.

I would have to do some digging but those numbers as good or better that Tim Davis was doing back in NSCA Hot street in 05'. Tim had the better intake. Set the NHRA record in B super modified. He also did a ton of developing and testing.

I was very displeased with my NA numbers 5.69 with a 2,950 race weight and a glide. Felt there was better numbers in the car like 5.40's. The 60 ft with the glide just would not cooperate.


What transmission are you running Brian?
I would assume a Torqflite. Inquiring minds want to know.

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Maybe we need for sale add in race parts for killer w8 top end package to offset upgrade deal.

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I would have to. I still have a non income producing home I can't seem to sell....going on 2 years now. It's really cutting into my racing budget.

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So, I ask this to Brett.....Is there a chance at 5.0's with a max effort N/A SB build based around your current "big" port at 417 CID and still be a reliable bracket car? And I'm trimming weight again this winter....should be around 2740 race weight.

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I can't Promise anything but I would work my a$$ off for you.

I can send big port to HRE and get manifold started :-)

1.00" of cam 9500 RPM springs 30-50 passes

I think we can make 100-150 more HP

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Add the 3 speed transmission and it would sound like a Comp Eliminator car then.

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How much do you think the car would pickup with a toilet and Alky?
I ask because I know a guy with smallblock who saw about 2.5 tenths difference going from race gas to the injected Alky swap.
This was a car that went mid 9's before the swap, not as fast as yours but a very nice gain none the less. 450ish inch Indy head motor, btw

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How much do you think the car would pickup with a toilet and Alky?
I ask because I know a guy with smallblock who saw about 2.5 tenths difference going from race gas to the injected Alky swap.
This was a car that went mid 9's before the swap, not as fast as yours but a very nice gain none the less. 450ish inch Indy head motor, btw

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That's a good gain.....around 60hp, probably. [/

Yep... For a short while he considered going back to gas, and
I loaned him the 1100 dominator off my 422 W5 motor. He used it one weekend and lost 3 tenths with my carb and swapped back again.That was the end of that experiment quickly.
So basically going from the carb he used to Alky and toilet he gained 2.5 tenths. Going back to gas using my carb( which obviously was off a little he lost 3 tenths.... So my. carb was half a tenth worse than the carb he had originally had on his car.
He did this because the car became Inconsistant on the starting line spinning sometimes because of the extra torque with the Alky over gas.
He ultimately sorted the chassis out. Car runs 9.20 now with the small block Indy heads and Alky. Think it went 9.22 at Norwalk, if not a hair better