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Just a thanks to Brian Smith for getting it "all"
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Hope it is ok Brian  His kick a$$ dart went 5.35 at 129mph Saturday. This car is over 2800lbs has my smaller port w8s and what I would call fast bracket cam. Air was killer but that is still fast NA small block mopar (417Ci) Hope to get better intake on it yet  Thanks for your hard work Brian 
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Re: Just a thanks to Brian Smith for getting it "all"
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10/22/13 10:35 PM
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That car is killer for sure. Wish mine was half as fast as that thing.
Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads
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Re: Just a thanks to Brian Smith for getting it "all"
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Thanks Brett. It's been really good since put back together. People can't even believe how small this cam is and the intake has to be choking it. Really trying to decide what to do with it for next year. I have been thinking big, big wedge. But I guess I'm a small block guy and am intrigued by how quick I can make it and keep the small block. Might just have to do a new top end with the "big" port and a sheet metal intake and a cam to match. Maybe get the compression back up. Maybe go dry sump? If I do it, it will be a max effort this time. I still like the guys that shake their heads when walking away after looking my car over for the "bottle" and not finding one. I'm normally in the top 2 N/A door cars at any track I go to and that is at any weight. Still hoping for a pair of wins to finish out this year. 
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Re: Just a thanks to Brian Smith for getting it "all"
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I know that guy .. not only is that car fast but, the build quality is unbelievable .. I parked my 64 next to his and was ashamed of mine And Brian and his wife are great people .. Brian is in my circle of trust 
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Re: Just a thanks to Brian Smith for getting it "all"
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10/23/13 02:06 AM
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Haulin the mail..Congrats!
"I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know."
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Re: Just a thanks to Brian Smith for getting it "all"
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I know that guy ..
not only is that car fast but, the build quality is unbelievable ..
I parked my 64 next to his and was ashamed of mine
And Brian and his wife are great people ..
Brian is in my circle of trust
Thanks Daryl, but that '64 is a work of art and no way my Dart was any nicer. Let me know if you ever make it back down this way and we will go out for a few "beverages" again.
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Re: Just a thanks to Brian Smith for getting it "all"
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10/23/13 02:38 PM
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So, I ask this to Brett.....Is there a chance at 5.0's with a max effort N/A SB build based around your current "big" port at 417 CID and still be a reliable bracket car? And I'm trimming weight again this winter....should be around 2740 race weight.
Great job....the car is flying.
"Max effort" and reliable bracket car are usually not found in the same sentence.  Although if you get that car down in the 2700# range, a truely max effort W8 with a sheet, 2 x 4 and all the other ingredients will go well past 1000hp.
Might need a Proflite to run in the 5.0 range though....that is fast for an N/A straight headed smallblock at that weight, but I think Paul Ricci has run 8ohs at E-Town around 2800#.
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Re: Just a thanks to Brian Smith for getting it "all"
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So, I ask this to Brett.....Is there a chance at 5.0's with a max effort N/A SB build based around your current "big" port at 417 CID and still be a reliable bracket car? And I'm trimming weight again this winter....should be around 2740 race weight.
Great job....the car is flying.
"Max effort" and reliable bracket car are usually not found in the same sentence. Although if you get that car down in the 2700# range, a truely max effort W8 with a sheet, 2 x 4 and all the other ingredients will go well past 1000hp.
Might need a Proflite to run in the 5.0 range though....that is fast for an N/A straight headed smallblock at that weight, but I think Paul Ricci has run 8ohs at E-Town around 2800#.
I'm sure there are quicker out there, but parts to parts I think we are doing very well. These are 17 year old heads with a modern port and small cam, single 4bbl, small cast intake (and not the "good" one).
You are right Jim, reliable and max effort are different things which is why I'm torn over putting a big wedge in this or making this combo quicker at the cost of reliability.
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Re: Just a thanks to Brian Smith for getting it "all"
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10/23/13 02:58 PM
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So, I ask this to Brett.....Is there a chance at 5.0's with a max effort N/A SB build based around your current "big" port at 417 CID and still be a reliable bracket car? And I'm trimming weight again this winter....should be around 2740 race weight.
Great job....the car is flying. I have erred on the side of reliability and let the car run what it runs, thats probably why mine don't run as well as others with a very similar combo but it's still together after 5 years of beating on it.
"Max effort" and reliable bracket car are usually not found in the same sentence. Although if you get that car down in the 2700# range, a truely max effort W8 with a sheet, 2 x 4 and all the other ingredients will go well past 1000hp.
Might need a Proflite to run in the 5.0 range though....that is fast for an N/A straight headed smallblock at that weight, but I think Paul Ricci has run 8ohs at E-Town around 2800#.
I'm sure there are quicker out there, but parts to parts I think we are doing very well. These are 17 year old heads with a modern port and small cam, single 4bbl, small cast intake (and not the "good" one).
You are right Jim, reliable and max effort are different things which is why I'm torn over putting a big wedge in this or making this combo quicker at the cost of reliability.
Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
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Re: Just a thanks to Brian Smith for getting it "all"
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10/23/13 08:34 PM
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Hauling the mail for sure.
I would have to do some digging but those numbers as good or better that Tim Davis was doing back in NSCA Hot street in 05'. Tim had the better intake. Set the NHRA record in B super modified. He also did a ton of developing and testing.
I was very displeased with my NA numbers 5.69 with a 2,950 race weight and a glide. Felt there was better numbers in the car like 5.40's. The 60 ft with the glide just would not cooperate.
What transmission are you running Brian?
I would assume a Torqflite. Inquiring minds want to know.
Leon
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would love to see your car stay a small block for ever.5.30s you could run hot street or N/A 
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